Official Sideshow 1/6 ANH Darth Vader PHOTO Thread

Collector Freaks Forum

Help Support Collector Freaks Forum:

This site may earn a commission from merchant affiliate links, including eBay, Amazon, and others.
These are a couple pics of that Ertl dome painted up.

DarthVaderAMTVinylConversion.jpg

sw15.jpg

I am SO getting one. Much, much, much better and more accurate ANH Vader dome than what we're getting from Sideshow. And shouldn't be too hard to paint, either.

Is it really to scale, though?
 
Well seeing it in the pic next to the Hasbro version, it must be close to scale since the Hasbro dome was huge.
 
You're probably right. Will be worth a shot anyway.

If it works out it might be what's needed to make the figure a real home run.
 
You're probably right. Will be worth a shot anyway.

If it works out it might be what's needed to make the figure a real home run.

Well, i am sure the Vader we would need for that dome is in the link i posted below but, don't get that one mixed up with the older kit as the old one sucks, i think in the pic i posted of this kit, the owner added a custom cape to give it the look from ESB in cloud city just before Luke jumps.

https://cgi.ebay.com/STAR-WARS-12-DARTH-VADER-AMT-ERTL-MODEL-KIT-1995_W0QQitemZ140261809004QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item20a8415b6c&_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116
 
It's been stated frequently here how LFL might be to blame for making SS change the shape of the dome. What I want to know is why they would request that be done for this Vader while past offerings from Koto, Medicom, ERTL and even the Sideshow PF have all had much better looking and more accurate helmets.
 
It's been stated frequently here how LFL might be to blame for making SS change the shape of the dome. What I want to know is why they would request that be done for this Vader while past offerings from Koto, Medicom, ERTL and even the Sideshow PF have all had much better looking and more accurate helmets.

Hard to say why. Why does LFL sign off on some really piss poor looking portraits for Diamond Select's UQS products but a great Sideshow portrait has to be changed to have Mace Windu's essence.

We know for fact that LFL had Sideshow tweak the Mace Windu sculpt, straight from the sculptor, and we've heard other things, not as conclusive, about them.

We just assume when Sideshow initially shows us one thing and it's significantly redone in production, odds are someone dictated it to be done.

The dome was practically perfect on the prototype, and the things that are different between the production and prototype are so significant, I really have to believe there was a deliberate change, not some mishap. So assuming that, I can't imagine why anyone at Sideshow would think let's change the helmet when it was perfect, the only reason I can think of would be if somehow it were easier to cast in production, not knowing anything about casting, that doesn't make much sense, but maybe. So, for me, all signs point to a deliberate action was taken to change the helmet and most likely it was at the request of LFL.
 
I can't imagine though, i would think they'd take a mold of the helmet and make castings of it, the difference is quite significant.

Its quite possible that the casting was goofed...afterall, that's what happened to Jedi Luke and the first Han. The shrink factor was miscalculated and we got ginormous heads. This has also been confirmed by SSC.

Maybe this happened here and the helmet was cast and it shrunk too much as opposed to too little.
 
Maybe this happened here and the helmet was cast and it shrunk too much as opposed to too little.

Thing is though, the main point I'm trying to make is looking at the SDCC helmet and looking at the figure, it's not shrinking, if it were that, I'd be more open to a mishap, the entire shape of the flare part of the dome piece has been changed. On the SDCC dome, the flare angled downward as it curves around from front to back, on the production dome, it takes a perfect horizontal path from front to back, it's like almost a 1/4 at the back was trimmed away, which is why I lean towards someone directing a change to be made. I don't think anything's shrunk at all on this, but the significance of the trimmed away section is what's making the odd look.

SDCC.jpg


The red lines are where the edge of the production helmet run, notice how much is there below those marks on the SDCC helmet, between prototype and production, all that was lost, and I really can't imagine a production error causing that, but more intent, and I lean towards LFL giving the directive.
 
protovsprod.jpg


Looks like the top of the dome was heightened a bit, too.

I like the new dome better then the proto one, simply for that reason..the top is wider and less rounded from the front profile..all the production dome needs is a widows peak and longer all the way around and has to sit deeper on the mask.

I have to say though, the finnish on the mask is the best yet on anything Darth Vader i have seen..except 1:1 scale props.
 
Hard to say why. Why does LFL sign off on some really piss poor looking portraits for Diamond Select's UQS products but a great Sideshow portrait has to be changed to have Mace Windu's essence.

We know for fact that LFL had Sideshow tweak the Mace Windu sculpt, straight from the sculptor, and we've heard other things, not as conclusive, about them.

We just assume when Sideshow initially shows us one thing and it's significantly redone in production, odds are someone dictated it to be done.

The dome was practically perfect on the prototype, and the things that are different between the production and prototype are so significant, I really have to believe there was a deliberate change, not some mishap. So assuming that, I can't imagine why anyone at Sideshow would think let's change the helmet when it was perfect, the only reason I can think of would be if somehow it were easier to cast in production, not knowing anything about casting, that doesn't make much sense, but maybe. So, for me, all signs point to a deliberate action was taken to change the helmet and most likely it was at the request of LFL.

Excuse me for being so direct but...

It's a marketing strategy.

Wether it's SS or LFL or both in conjuction we'll most likely never know.
 
Excuse me for being so direct but...

It's a marketing strategy.

Wether it's SS or LFL or both in conjuction we'll most likely never know.

It's a "marketing strategy" to take a nearly perfect looking prototype helmet and alter it significantly for the worse? Can you please explain that logic? :confused:
 
It's a "marketing strategy" to take a nearly perfect looking prototype helmet and alter it significantly for the worse? Can you please explain that logic? :confused:

Its hardly perfect..the top on the proto is too small and round..the only thing looking right was the amount of flare all around the dome but even then, no widows peak, way too shiny, overall look seems to fit ESB...but, like i said..no company that has done 1:6th Vader at this point has anything on the helmet SS made here..the finnish on the lenses and the gunmetal colour on the mask..looks the best so far..and kudos for atleast having the bottom grill the right size.
 
It's a "marketing strategy" to take a nearly perfect looking prototype helmet and alter it significantly for the worse? Can you please explain that logic? :confused:

I explained it some pages back, but here it is again. -So that there will be more a reason for people to buy the next Vader incarnation-

SS WILL make three or four Vader's, their not going to make the first one perfect, because then people won't buy the next three.
 
I explained it some pages back, but here it is again. -So that there will be more a reason for people to buy the next Vader incarnation-

SS WILL make three or four Vader's, their not going to make the first one perfect cause then people won't buy the next three.

I can see that but, only for when the licence gets handed to another company later on down the road..and its all LFL doing..i mean hell, it took Hasbro forever to give us a proper C-3p0 sculpt with bendable knees and same with Vader..i think even if this SS Vader was pretty screen accurate..still would not prevent any of the fans from picking up the other versions because really..making them look screen accurate will bring out the differences from each release..as i said, this one leans a bit to ESB look..as i am thinking the dome will be re-used for ESB version.

Medicom cheaped out on their fans and just gave the ROTS vader the ROTJ helmet in black..guess making a whole new mold would had cost too much.
 
Back
Top