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Official Sideshow 1/6 ANH Darth Vader PHOTO Thread
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Darth Madden
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I have to agree. 800 posts about the dome is getting a bit boring.
LOPIE
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As far as a reveal helmet SS can do what they did with Indy making two heads available one with the hat on and one without. One head can be with the Vader helmet that is a solid piece and the other with a Vader reveal with the dome and the front mask piece off making it into 3 separate pieces.
See in this pic the head and the neck piece can be one solid piece.
See in this pic the head and the neck piece can be one solid piece.
galactiboy
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I think that is probably what they would do. Medicom did a very nice job with their 3 piece reveal, but I still thought both versions were a bit pin-headed. But being burned and scarred it was more acceptable.
Darth Madden
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That would be the best way to do it and it would be just fine by me.
As far as a reveal helmet SS can do what they did with Indy making two heads available one with the hat on and one without. One head can be with the Vader helmet that is a solid piece and the other with a Vader reveal with the dome and the front mask piece off making it into 3 separate pieces.
See in this pic the head and the neck piece can be one solid piece.
I'd HATE that, for me the whole point of the reveal is being able to remove each piece just like Luke does at the end, it's not just about seeing Anakin with the collar and suit on, it's about the whole scene and the emotion of first the dome coming off and then the mask slowly coming away giving us our first glimpse at Anakin Skywalker (if you saw OT before PT).
Mad Old Lu
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I think Marmit's dome looks way too big and much too long. And while Sideshow's isn't perfect, I think it's closer to looking right than Marmit's or any of the other domes I've seen.
And I think maybe Maulfan's right about the dome being changed because the casting process. It was probably significantly cheaper to make the dome a bit smaller because it maybe used a different casting process or machine, or used much less material. I'm not familiar with casting, and I'm just guessing based on my experience with printing. Sometimes if we design a book at a certain irregular size, say 9"x12", the printer will come back to us and say, "you'll save half the cost if you reduce the size to 8.5"x11" (the standard letter size)", which is really just a 1/2 inch on one side and an inch on the other. Not a big deal, right? But it's a significant change in price because there wouldn't be as much paper waste since they can gang up more pages on a single sheet. And yes, as a designer it's a hard choice to make because you have the chance to save a good bit of money (not just pennies), but compromise the design you had envisioned. Ultimately the client decides to save the money, and the piece ends up not a strong and impactful as it was first conceived.
I imagine it was something like that with the casting.
And I think maybe Maulfan's right about the dome being changed because the casting process. It was probably significantly cheaper to make the dome a bit smaller because it maybe used a different casting process or machine, or used much less material. I'm not familiar with casting, and I'm just guessing based on my experience with printing. Sometimes if we design a book at a certain irregular size, say 9"x12", the printer will come back to us and say, "you'll save half the cost if you reduce the size to 8.5"x11" (the standard letter size)", which is really just a 1/2 inch on one side and an inch on the other. Not a big deal, right? But it's a significant change in price because there wouldn't be as much paper waste since they can gang up more pages on a single sheet. And yes, as a designer it's a hard choice to make because you have the chance to save a good bit of money (not just pennies), but compromise the design you had envisioned. Ultimately the client decides to save the money, and the piece ends up not a strong and impactful as it was first conceived.
I imagine it was something like that with the casting.
LOPIE
Super Freak
Medi did a good job with the reveal, and SS could do the same that is IF they wanted too. Come on I bet someone on this forum could pull it off. In fact if someone did it they would make a killing. Hell Hasbro did a good job.
Fia2k9
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As far as a reveal helmet SS can do what they did with Indy making two heads available one with the hat on and one without. One head can be with the Vader helmet that is a solid piece and the other with a Vader reveal with the dome and the front mask piece off making it into 3 separate pieces.
See in this pic the head and the neck piece can be one solid piece.
Ultimately, the collar doesn't need to be removeable. The head and collar can be one peice. Only the facemask and dome need be seperate peices. That way they wouldn't require two head sculpts. So I totally agree with you Lopie and I just realized that I've just repeated what you said.........OOPS!
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Hurricane has been doing it for years! And with pieces that were never really intended to be reveal.
It bugs me that people keep talking like a reveal is this impossible pipe dream when anyone who knows anything has seen that it plainly is possible without making the mask huge or the head tiny.
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I have to agree with you. I'd like full reveal as well, not three heads in different stages.
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Exactly, even hasbro tackled it, albeit not too well, but it wasn't that bad.
abake
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Funny, I have Medicom's ROTJ Vader, and after checking the HS out a few times when I first got it and showing it off to friends, I have never again taken the helmet off.
It's a nice-to-have, but really not that important to me. Having said that, I'm sure SST will do a reveal for ROTJ. It would be stupid not to.
It's a nice-to-have, but really not that important to me. Having said that, I'm sure SST will do a reveal for ROTJ. It would be stupid not to.
I love SS products,
their SW and LOTR figures are a highlight of my collection,
but I don't think this was LFL intervention...
I mean... there's literally dozens of Darth Vader products that have the right
shaped dome...
Why would LFL ^^^^ up SS's?...
Specially since all other SS Vader products have a better looking helmet (not perfect, but better than this one...)
Bronze Statue, Diplomatic Mission and even the PF looks better than this one...
their SW and LOTR figures are a highlight of my collection,
but I don't think this was LFL intervention...
I mean... there's literally dozens of Darth Vader products that have the right
shaped dome...
Why would LFL ^^^^ up SS's?...
Specially since all other SS Vader products have a better looking helmet (not perfect, but better than this one...)
Bronze Statue, Diplomatic Mission and even the PF looks better than this one...
galactiboy
OT Preferist
Whhhhhhhhhy???????
I think it would allow for better overall proportions (not saying it can't be done, but one less thing to get jacked up in production)... as well as less chance of helmet pieces not fitting together well, ROTJ from Medicom had a very loose dome, or even getting paint rubs on the underlying head from removing the tight fitting face mask.
If the end product looks the same it really isn't a big deal IMO... unless you would want the extra helmet pieces sitting on the ground as part of a display.
thenammagazine
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Eh, that's a little bit different considering it requires a specialty printer utilizing oversized plates for the images vs. the standard 8.5x11" printers which are the industry standard. I really don't see how casting the helmet would be any more different than casting the chestplate or any other armored pieces.
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