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Great article, I completely agree with Orson Scott Card, she's nuts.

I remember when all the Harry Potter hoopla started and I first saw a picture of Harry Potter from the first book, I immediately recognized she ripped off Books Of Magic. Tim Hunter is the spitting image of Harry Potter.
Rowling is a hack.
 
So Harry Potter = Tim Hunter
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Larry Potter
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I still love the HP books though. :eek:
 
I hope she writes a prequal and all it is is overly descriptive scenes of Dumbledore getting repeatedly pounded while in warlock college, or whatever kind of school he went to.
 
Well I didn't mean to come off as the defendant for the case of Brother Card vs. Ms. Rowling but I must say he is right on a few points. As a literary analyst it's hard to read her works as anything either original or groundbreaking, but they are what they are--delightful books that are genuinely exciting, well-written, and unique. But her desire to maintain a semblance of control over her works demonstrates that she really doesn't get how the literary community works sometimes.

I like to compare her to Tolkien (Uh-oh, here we go on one of the Captain's philosophical academia posts--you can stop reading now if you're bored), if only because the contrasts are so interesting. Tolkien was eager for people to expand and further the history and scope of Middle Earth. He hoped it would inspire music, poetry, and literature, thus enriching the lives of everybody who contributed to his creation. He left many things unexplored so that others could discover them, unexplained so that others could reveal them, and unfinished so that others could complete them. He did not view himself as the warden of some secluded world which only he had the right to access--he wanted his world to be a haven of creativity, innovation, and art. And that is what made his works so revolutionary, so vast, and so profound.

By closing off Harry Potter's world to other creators, she's hindering the very pulse of artistic inspiration and creation. People feel that by letting others in on it, she's getting the short end of the stick for all her work. Yet no matter how many imitations there may be, people will always recognize the hand of a real master. Many people imitate Michelangelo, yet never surpass him. People will try to write like Shakespeare, but they will never equal him. I could devote my life to bettering Beethoven, but I'll never approach him. If she was really confident in the quality of her works, these other issues wouldn't matter. True art isn't a matter of credit--it's a matter of creation. Whether or not people try to imitate you is really inconsequential when your only concern is the betterment of your art. Would she have made this case when she began the books, and only wanted to publish the story that she loved so much? No. But I think she's lost sight of the story in favor of the sales. And I pity that.
 
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I'm with JK on this. This nobody just wants to make money off JK writings. The article is totally biased. I'm going to write a refrence book on LOTR or SW. Then claim they stole my idea in their books. But since shes rich she shouldn't sue and let someone ruin the HP legacy. Its complete garbage. Small publisher so what, make it on your own.
 
I am not sure you understand whats at issue. He isn't stealing JK's ideas and claiming them as his own. He is writing a reference book. If you think JK should be able to sue him, than anyone who is mentioned in any reference book (like encyclopedia's for example) should be able to sue for compensation.

If Elvis Presley is mentioned in an encyclopedia, The Elvis Presley Estate should get a profit. If a reference book about the History of Rock and Roll mentions any musicians, then the musicians should get a share of profit.

Do you see where I am going with this. Its ludicrous that she thinks she is entitles to a cut.
 
Honestly, how is anybody going to "ruin" the Harry Potter legacy? The works are so strong on their own that nobody is going to put even a dent on their influence for a long while. Not only that, but how many kids are going to be clamoring for a reference book about Harry Potter? "Oh mumsies please buy me that reference book so that I don't mix up my muggles from my mudbloods and can articulately use them in a scholarly setting! My friends would just DIE for that!" Trust me, this will not damage the series in any way, especially since there are already dozens of books doing just that with Harry Potter and Co. Really, such a small book, perfectly in harmony with the law, is utterly inconsequential. Just what is he stealing? He's making a book that references materials. Encyclopedias and dictionaries do the same thing, and the whole time he's referring to Rowling as the primary source--what on Earth is wrong or illegal about that? He's stealing NONE of her ideas because the entire time he's saying they are her ideas. Very very strange of her to do this.
 
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Encyclopedias and dictionaries to the same thing, and the whole time he's referring to Rowling as the primary source--what on Earth is wrong or illegal about that? He's stealing NONE of her ideas because the entire time he's saying they are her ideas. Very very strange of her to do this.

Nothing... which is why JK is going to loose. :banana
 
Not strange of her at all if you realize she's been a full of crap fake from the very beginning.

I love the books. I don't think she stole any of her ideas any more than OSC did or George Lucas did or Tolkien Did.

She created a universe that is unique to her and you can't steal the spirit of book. And her books have a lot of spirit. But she is definitely in La-La Land if she thinks she is going to win this suit. There is no way. Her lawyers are great for scratching her itchy hears, but not for much else.
 
I've read Orson Scott Card and enjoyed his stuff, but I think he's completely and totally off base here. If he was planning an Ender's Encyclopedia and someone else out there released an unofficial reference work, I'm sure he'd complain about it too.

Every author out there lifts stuff from other sources, the supposed greatest writer who ever lived, Shakespeare, didn't have an original story, ever. But it's how the story is told that makes the difference.

Anyone that makes a lot of money will be taken to task just for being successful, but protecting your intellectual property and making sure your work isn't diluted by others just riding its coattails is one of the responsibilities of that success.
 
Regardless of the lawsuit's merit, this article is nothing more than a thinly veiled hate letter. It's almost sad. Check out the number of times the author compares himself to Rowling. And she's insane because she has nowhere to go professionally and gets no respect? What exactly are those assertions based on? That's the most pointlessly hateful thing I've read since the Speed Racer thread.
 
A few points....I agree with a vast majority of what Mr. Card has to say, however I think it a little odd he stooped to name calling. All he really needed to was to state facts and let his readers make up their minds. Still he seemed mighty pissed, and that can color one's writing.
The biggest issue to me here is the fact that literature is and will continue to be dissected, discussed, written about, and borrowed from. If she does, in fact, desire the respect of the literary world (the way Mr. Card claims) then this is most definitely not the way to go about getting it.
As mentioned earlier authors the like of Tolkien, Lewis, and many others have had reference works written about their writings. I have many of these references on my bookshelf, and will probably buy more as time goes by. Now if the Tolkien estate, to use a well known example, publishes a reference from Professor Tolkien's notes you better believe I would buy it even though I already several others from various hands.
Criticism and Critique are part and parcel of true literary discourse, and in essence what Ms. Rowling is doing is opening herself up to personal criticism here instead of professional.
Yes, many greats borrow liberally from other sources...Only a fool would think that Beowulf had little influence on Professors Tolkien and Lewis. Did they acknowledge this influence...? The answer would be yes, obviously. Heck, Tolkien and Lewis even influenced each other through their personal relationship. What Mr Rowling fails to see is that by deny her influences she opens herself up to plagiarism claims.
 
I guess it sucks that Rowling ripped people off. Looks like she took a bunch of stuff from books I've never (nd probably will never) read and made some stuff I enjoyed.
 
I D K. There are a lot of equally good ideas but there are not equally good writers. I've found the difference between Rowling and other writers to be about the same as the difference between Tolkien and Steven King.

I'll give it a try one day, but sci-fi or fantasy isn't enough to draw me in alone. It has to be well written.

I feel that Sorcerers Stone and Chamber of Secrets were written about the quality of other modern fiction writers, but the 3rd-7th books are about as good as anyone I've read. In addition to story her style is great and fun to read. Lots of tricks like alliteration and such.
 
I'll add him to the long list of stuff I have to read, which unfortunately only gets checked off about 1 every 2 or 3 months........:(

I am reading a lot more now that I am riding the bus. Right now I am reading Tom Jones by Henry Fielding.
 
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