Painters and recasters

[SwedishHeat]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/CUSTOM-1-6-Kurt-Russell-Jack-Burton-Unpainted-Headsculpt-Rare-/230991362392?pt=US_Action_Figures&hash=item35c8287958

How could he possibly get a hold of this head?!?!?

That's ridiculous. Something is very rotten in Denmark.

 

[annihilate22]

Something is very rotten in Denmark.

You sound like Dave.

 

[Bullet]

Whoever passed the KR sculpt onto Q just ****ed themselves big time! Shouldnt be hard to trace it back to them there can't be many Trev has let out. Any chance one was 'acquired' by Q while Famcon was going on? I.e has one mysteriously gone missing...

 

[chubbyman]

Somebody already said it was a silent surfer paint app on the picture so that means nothing. Q just pulls pics of completed figures to post and I GUARANTEE Nathan has nothing to do with Q.

Ya Nathan has too much respect for his passion to this field to pass a sculpt onto Q, all we know is that someone ******ed up.

 

[Gruff Old Bear]

I will alert Trevor to this. I don't think he made very many casts, so maybe this is traceable.

 

[YANOULI]

Suffice it to say, I'll indulge you. Let's say that it's August of 2014 and Robocop has been out for a few months. Someone gets an idea: they're going to use the faceplates as a base for an unmasked head. They sculpt the top of the head, and it's a dead-on likeness. It's now clear that the lower half of the head was based on Weller's likeness, without his permission, what do you think of Hot Toys, now?

Post haste you said ?

An excerpt from the HT facebook page,
Thank you for many fans’ support when we introduced our latest RoboCop collectibles. We heard that you guys would love to see Alex Murphy as the unhelmeted RoboCop, so we got a good news for you all! Our Production Director & Chief Painter J.C. Hong has just shared photos of the work already in progress for the head sculpt on his blog (https://tiger231.blog.me/80191133866), so please stay tuned to see how it will look like in another version of RoboCop soon!

2 other guys have played Robocop.
Robert Burke ( who looked a bit like Peter Weller ) played him in R3, then there's the guy in the TV show. It doesn't mean it'll be Wellers likeness.

 

[Gruff Old Bear]

Just sent Trev an email, and now I see that ShortRound did the same. This is really chilling, coming right after the reveal I was so proud of. I'm having a hard time believing it. But this is probably a mis-step for whoever is behind it. We'll see what Trevor says.

 

[drdandalek]

I feel very foolish to have to ask the question but where are people buying the Trevor Grove heads from any way? I've not seen any for sale by him in probably 6 months.

 

[ShortRound]

Recasters.

 

[Cheungkinmen]

Oh boy, hope Trev can pin point the person who handed out the sculpt to Q. :S

 

[krec9]

Glad I stumbled on that I wanted this head from Trevor then he want off the boards saw it on eBay it couldn't be right.

 

[Mr.E]

This reminds me of Slugworth trying to get his hands on the everlasting gobstoppers.

Hoping for the best though.

 

[galactiboy]

2 other guys have played Robocop.
Robert Burke ( who looked a bit like Peter Weller ) played him in R3, then there's the guy in the TV show. It doesn't mean it'll be Wellers likeness.

I actually wondered if that was the plan... But the sculpt does look like Weller.

 

[meth head]

Name and shame!!!

 

[DarthMagnus]

Wow! That's a real mind ****!

 

[SilentSurfer]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/CUSTOM-1-6-Kurt-Russell-Jack-Burton-Unpainted-Headsculpt-Rare-/230991362392?pt=US_Action_Figures&hash=item35c8287958

How could he possibly get a hold of this head?!?!?

I have my suspicions as I know of only 4 heads that ever went out. One to Gruff that I painted, one to another painter, and two to a certain well-known establishment of artists with two degrees of Kevin Bacon back to Q that are well capable of doing (albeit hopefully not willing to do) recasts with ease.

And he's douchey enough to be using Nathan's photos to sell it.

Holy crap, how impatient is Rolando "Q"? Gruff shows his figure at Famcon, and in less than a week, Q has my pics from my thread up on eBay selling recasts of it. He's probably had those castings for a lond time as this head is actually a year and half old. He might as well have sold them before now with only four of the original heads out there. It won't be hard to figure out who recast it.

Any chance one was 'acquired' by Q while Famcon was going on? I.e has one mysteriously gone missing...

There was only Gruff's painted one there, and it was not moved. Q's had access to some other original for a while apparently.

 

[Gruff Old Bear]

This mystery is pretty much solved, I think. Trev knows everything. He'll need some time to decide how to handle it. I do believe our reveal at FAMcon forced an error by Q and his accomplice.

 

[Hydeous]

You could report his listing for using your pics.

 

[ShortRound]

This mystery is pretty much solved, I think. Trev knows everything. He'll need some time to decide how to handle it. I do believe our reveal at FAMcon forced an error by Q and his accomplice.

This, plus a very well planned move. Revealing this at Famcon and then listing his auction to make it look like MAYBE the people involved at Famcon are to blame.

 

[SilentSurfer]

Here's my 2 cents on this thread topic.

This is not about licensing rights to intellectual properties such as movies of TV. It's about art. Even the tops at Sideshow recognized this forum for its celebration of the art of custom figures and customizing existing figures, even their own. They are fully aware of the customs section and that many of their own outside vender artists such as myself and Trevor participate(d) in it. They appreciated it along with us.

If it were a question of legal rights to likenesses, we wouldn't be having this conversation cause there would be no customs section in the ART FORUMS of the board. What's at stake is that the artists who share their art are being ripped off. Gruff hit the nail on the head when he used the word counterfeit. That's the crux of this thread.

We're all celebrating art here in the customs section. Some sculpt, some paint, some tailor, some render in 3D, etc. Recasting a sculptor's art would be like somehow reprinting my paint job on a head. I would lose out on the income from my work while somebody like Q makes a quick buck off my hard work. That's what he's doing to Trevor, Rainman, and others when he sells recast heads. He's making money off of their art. That's wrong.

Now, is it wrong to make art of a licensed property? No. Is it wrong to make copies of that art for sale? An honest answer has to be -- most likely, yes, but it is up to the license holder to decide whether or not they want to act upon it. And some do. Some don't. The Breaking Bad producers embraced it with both arms.

Is it wrong to want a piece of such fine art? No. But pay the artist first. That's the purpose of this thread. And this forum, really.