Petition to ban airbrushing images aimed at teens (UK)

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Re: Petition to ban airbushing images aimed at teens (UK)

The model isn't the product and the product isn't what's supposedly making kids feel ugly.

But the way in which the products is advertised is, hence marketting

 

[Lejuan]

Re: Petition to ban airbushing images aimed at teens (UK)

The model isn't the product and the product isn't what's supposedly making kids feel ugly.

Advertising companies spend huge amounts on models and photomanips because they have no impact on the consumer?

 

[devilof76]

Re: Petition to ban airbushing images aimed at teens (UK)

Ironic that this is happening in England.

Or, not.

 

[wofford29]

Re: Petition to ban airbushing images aimed at teens (UK)

Advertising companies spend huge amounts on models and photomanips because they have no impact on the consumer?

Of course they do, but that's not what this campaign is about nor is it what I'm saying. This isn't about marketing a product, it's about making people in those adverts less perfect so a kid will feel less insecure about being ugly.

Let's make it about advertising though. If Nike is pushing a new pair of shoes and uses a fat woman with stubble on her legs because it can't be photoshopped, the little troll women can feel better about themselves and still not buy Nike's shoes. Meanwhile the women that take care of themselves have a look and say, ____ that I don't want Nike's, and now the women who would have bought Nike's don't and then Nike goes out of business and the advert team is out of work, the Chinese factories production goes down, truck drivers days are being cut, waffle house waitresses make less in tips, gas companies lose business, cotton and rubber mills lose work, etc, etc. etc. But guess what? Little hairy girl doesn't feel ugly.

It's ____ing amazing with all the worlds problems people have the time to worry about being ugly. You know who started this petition? A mom with an ugly ____ing kid that can't afford the plastic surgery they beg for so they can look like their favorite celebretard.

 

[Darth Cruel]

Re: Petition to ban airbushing images aimed at teens (UK)

To me, passing a law like this is as ridiculous as passing a law that would make it a crime for people to fail to teach their children what to take from an advertisement and what to ignore.


But THAT law would make more sense.

 

[wofford29]

Re: Petition to ban airbushing images aimed at teens (UK)

It really is a bizarre campaign. I could understand if it was about using pretty celebs to market cigarettes to underage children, but instead we get lets campaign to make the person advertising cigarettes to underage kids uglier so our kids will feel less ugly...until they've smoked the rest of their lives fulfilling the prophecy.

 

[Lejuan]

Re: Petition to ban airbushing images aimed at teens (UK)

Of course they do, but that's not what this campaign is about nor is it what I'm saying. This isn't about marketing a product, it's about making people in those adverts less perfect so a kid will feel less insecure about being ugly.

Let's make it about advertising though. If Nike is pushing a new pair of shoes and uses a fat woman with stubble on her legs because it can't be photoshopped, the little troll women can feel better about themselves and still not buy Nike's shoes. Meanwhile the women that take care of themselves have a look and say, ____ that I don't want Nike's, and now the women who would have bought Nike's don't and then Nike goes out of business and the advert team is out of work, the Chinese factories production goes down, truck drivers days are being cut, waffle house waitresses make less in tips, gas companies lose business, cotton and rubber mills lose work, etc, etc. etc. But guess what? Little hairy girl doesn't feel ugly.

It's ____ing amazing with all the worlds problems people have the time to worry about being ugly. You know who started this petition? A mom with an ugly ____ing kid that can't afford the plastic surgery they beg for so they can look like their favorite celebretard.

The issue may not be about marketing a product per se, but what kind of imagery is deemed acceptable in legislature to use in the marketing of a product - specifically, the promotion of misleading images that are targeted towards a particular demographic.

You appear to be extrapolating an attempt to instil truth in advertising focused on minors into a downward spiral towards company bankruptcy and unemployment. My point is not about making models 'less perfect'. It is about faithful representation. Marketing that presents an idealised perspective on perfection that has at its core a misleading premise that the featured models are real is essentially bs. What this petition is suggesting, and I'm inclined to agree, is that under-16s are typically not intellectually or emotionally equipped to recognise these images as bs, and thus unable to inoculate themselves from their impact on their developing egos.

My opinion, based on having taught this demographic for a number of years, is that teenagers are especially susceptible to all manner of bs, often to their detriment, and advertisers will capitalise on that susceptibility as far as they are legally able. If an adult wants to believe that buying the latest pair of Nikes will get them laid, all power to them - but this petition isn't about adult consumers with adult sensibilities, it's about children.

To me, passing a law like this is as ridiculous as passing a law that would make it a crime for people to fail to teach their children what to take from an advertisement and what to ignore.

But THAT law would make more sense.

What is ridiculous about it? Calling advertisers out on their bs by holding them accountable for what they promote to children? I'd hazard a pretty informed guess that the typical teenager spends a lot more time with their peer group than they do with their parents. Therefore its the peer group that regulates a lot of a teenager's behaviour, for better and worse.

Education through school curricula might provide a sensible foil to marketing bs, but in Australia's curricula at least, it doesn't happen until high school. This sort of awareness should happen in primary school imo. But in any case, I have no problem with legislating against what advertisers can target towards children.

It really is a bizarre campaign. I could understand if it was about using pretty celebs to market cigarettes to underage children, but instead we get lets campaign to make the person advertising cigarettes to underage kids uglier so our kids will feel less ugly...until they've smoked the rest of their lives fulfilling the prophecy.

I don't get how you can view the absence of airbrushing on a model as somehow making the model uglier

 

[darthviper107]

Re: Petition to ban airbushing images aimed at teens (UK)

I think all photos should be photoshopped to make people look better

 

[thenammagazine]

Re: Petition to ban airbushing images aimed at teens (UK)

If I want to make petition making the government solely responsible for raising my children because I wanna be a complete incompetent as far as parenting goes, where do I do that?

 

[The Craw]

Re: Petition to ban airbushing images aimed at teens (UK)

I hate ugly people. If you're ugly, then don't even talk to me.

 

[Lejuan]

Re: Petition to ban airbushing images aimed at teens (UK)

If I want to make petition making the government solely responsible for raising my children because I wanna be a complete incompetent as far as parenting goes, where do I do that?

You will have to emigrate to the UK.

 

[fosing]

Re: Petition to ban airbushing images aimed at teens (UK)

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[crows]

Re: Petition to ban airbushing images aimed at teens (UK)

they should even ban make up use, seeing how even make up can change how someone looks, seriously look at a woman with make up and without, some girls change a lot,
or ban push up bras, or ban Girdles, or ban plastic surgery.
trying to hide their ugliness is nothing new, is been done for ages, now they just have the advantage of photoshop,
even if they banned airbrushing, they would use other methods to make them look different, like make up

 

[Lejuan]

Re: Petition to ban airbushing images aimed at teens (UK)

they should even ban make up use, seeing how even make up can change how someone looks, seriously look at a woman with make up and without, some girls change a lot,
or ban push up bras, or ban Girdles, or ban plastic surgery.
trying to hide their ugliness is nothing new, is been done for ages, now they just have the advantage of photoshop,
even if they banned airbrushing, they would use other methods to make them look different, like make up

Except a girl can put on make-up if she so pleases. Make-up isn't about concocting a false reality and passing it off as real. Airbrushing in this case is.

 

[devilof76]

Re: Petition to ban airbushing images aimed at teens (UK)

What's wrong with idealized images?

 

[fuzzylojiks]

Re: Petition to ban airbushing images aimed at teens (UK)

Most plastic surgeons will disagree.......

 

[fosing]

Re: Petition to ban airbushing images aimed at teens (UK)

i dont want ugly people doing porn.

 

[devilof76]

Re: Petition to ban airbushing images aimed at teens (UK)

Be glad you weren't watching it in the 70's and 80's.

 

[crows]

Re: Petition to ban airbushing images aimed at teens (UK)

Except a girl can put on make-up if she so pleases. Make-up isn't about concocting a false reality and passing it off as real. Airbrushing in this case is.

I know what you mean, And i am not saying that I support airbrushing, I don't support it,
I'm just saying is like the push up bra example,people have been trying to make advertisements with people that look better than human, make up itself isn't
but when you add it all, when you add make up, push up bras, lipo, plastic surgery, implants,
well, you get the idea, is a much bigger problem than just airbrushing

 

[Lejuan]

Re: Petition to ban airbushing images aimed at teens (UK)

What's wrong with idealized images?

Nothing - but for me I'm uncomfortable when manipulated images are presented as reality. Movies have to declare themselves as fiction to their audience... why shouldn't advertisers?