PF Frodo Image Thread

[The Josh]

...but how many Star Wars dolls do you have? You still can't have my kingdom...and besides you are one person...

I have them all on order and all the LOTR ones as well. I'm a LOTR and SW Collector! I collect high end quality pieces be it the 1/6th line, PF, or Statue. If others want to look down on what I collect then that's their problem.

 

[Seretur]

I've been a polystone-only collector for the past five years. Tried getting into the 12" field, and didn't like it. Couldn't get past the, as you put it, doll aspect.

The, a few weeks ago, I experimentally bought a PF Leia.

Sure: it can look like a doll on display. After all, only dolls have tailored clothing, right? But the "doll" moniker applies only because that's the immediate point of reference for any mixed-media statue.

In person, the Leia figure is the best representation of that character in miniature form I could wish for. I had my doubts, but now I'm convinced -- as long as there's the happy marriage of pose, concept, likeness and appropriate fabric that falls right, the PF is a perfectly legitimate collectible line.

It's also in a price range that's a tier above the old SS/W polystone figures, and a good four tiers above the 12" figures, so the target audience is appropriately different.

 

[Seretur]

Re: Frodo Baggins PF Images ...

I never customised any of my pieces, either! But I did touch up one or two, in tiny spots where paint was missing. (I can't even see where those were now.) And my faith was amply rewarded when I received a Helm's Deep that had better paint apps than even the redone pics on the Sideshow site -- a really lovely, and subtle, highlight on the masonry of the Hornburg and the Deeping Wall.

Frodo actually has a delineated mouth interior in the official pics, which someone neglected to paint at the Chinese factory. I wonder if that would count as a troublesome spot...

 

[Deadly Dagger]

I have them all on order and all the LOTR ones as well. I'm a LOTR and SW Collector! I collect high end quality pieces be it the 1/6th line, PF, or Statue. If others want to look down on what I collect then that's their problem.

Not looking down on anyone, just making an observation. But my theory stands and you enforced it.

 

[Darklord Dave]

The "doll" thing gets really old.

Which looks more realistic - a fully sculpted piece with pretty much one texture and finish over the whole thing, or a mixed media piece that emulates the original costume as it appeared on the actor?

But it's a non-debate really - those in the "doll" party have a prejudice against this type of piece that can't be reasoned out.

 

[RoboDad]

I would have to agree with FrodoEyes...they are "doll-like". That was one reason I canceled my Lurtz, when I saw him in person at SDCC...he appeared to be a doll dressed for display. Sure they have no joints...and you can't change his outfit (im sure some will try)...but to someone who doesnt know what polystone is may think it is a doll...I really don't think you can compare these to SSW pieces...there is a whole lot more sculpting/painting going on there..besides...I bet my kingdom that it is the doll..I mean action figure people who are climbing all over these things...

As Josh said, you are free to like whatever you want, and cancel (or not even order) anything you wish. You are also free to call the PF figures whatever you like, but that doesn't make you right in doing so. I can insist all day long that the moon is made of cheese, but a wheel of swiss it ain't, no matter what I say.

I own over a hundred LOTR SSW pure polystone pieces, as well as all of the Star Wars 12" pieces released to date (and many more on pre-order), as well as other movie and TV 12" figures (including the LOTR 12" figures), and over a dozen PF figures. From my experience, there is nothing about the PF figures that equates to dolls in any way. The 12" figures in my collection are toys (masterfully executed, but toys nonetheless). The PFs in my collection are works of art, just as much as my SSW pieces are.

 

[Darklord Dave]

Just opened my Frodo - man he's small! I really appreciate the space saving box he came in too. I hope they continue to makes the boxes as small as possible (without losing safety of course).

I have to say that the large pic close ups don't do this figure any favors! In person looking at him in normal light he's fantastic. But you blow things up 3 times bigger than they're supposed to be and of course you're going to notice a lot of things wrong. I don't even notice the mouth thing and probably never would have if it hadn't been mentioned here.

 

[Captain Faramir]

Waa!!!!!!!! All of this talk is driving me crazy! I want that Frodo! WAAA!!!!!!!!!!

 

[The Josh]

Not looking down on anyone, just making an observation. But my theory stands and you enforced it.

You're theory was what exactly? That you're judgemental towards what others collect.

The "doll" thing gets really old.

It does. Joking among friends is one thing but you can tell when people are just being dicks.

But it's a non-debate really - those in the "doll" party have a prejudice against this type of piece that can't be reasoned out.

Yup, and they'll hate these and the 1/6th because they consider them inferior products.

I can insist all day long that the moon is made of cheese, but a wheel of swiss it ain't, no matter what I say.

Man! I was so looking forward to a big slice of Moon Cheese someday.

I own over a hundred LOTR SSW pure polystone pieces, as well as all of the Star Wars 12" pieces released to date (and many more on pre-order), as well as other movie and TV 12" figures (including the LOTR 12" figures), and over a dozen PF figures. From my experience, there is nothing about the PF figures that equates to dolls in any way. The 12" figures in my collection are toys (masterfully executed, but toys nonetheless). The PFs in my collection are works of art, just as much as my SSW pieces are.

Right. Though, I don't consider 1/6th toys either since I don't play with them. I see where you're coming from on that though.

 

[Deadly Dagger]

...my "little theory that went out the door"...that those interested in 12" will be interested in these PF's due to the stitching and such...man u have issues.

 

[Darklord Dave]

There is a huge difference in the 1/6 dolls and the PFs however. Due the articulation and need to be able to assume different poses, the tailoring on the "dolls" can't be as realistic as it is on the PFs.

The 1/4 scale Lurtz looks like he just stepped off the screen. No matter how you look at a fully sculpted statue, you'll never get that illusion.

 

[Sachiel]

There is a huge difference in the 1/6 dolls and the PFs however. Due the articulation and need to be able to assume different poses, the tailoring on the "dolls" can't be as realistic as it is on the PFs.

I don't fully agree with that. Especially since I've seen it done. Atleast a lot better than it has been. It's probably more on the amount of time put into each piece.

 

[The Josh]

...my "little theory that went out the door"...that those interested in 12" will be interested in these PF's due to the stitching and such...man u have issues.

I don't think thats the case. I know plenty of 1/6th that don't like the PF.

 

[Bodie The Cursed]

I prefer All sculpt over fabric..

PFs can look like dolls which is a turn off for me..:emperor

 

[tomandshell]

PFs are by their very nature specific to a certain scene, pose and moment. The pose is decided upon and the clothes are tailored to fit that precise moment. The fit of the clothes can be spot on because the figure itself doesn't have to move.

12" figures are by their very nature generic (or neutral, if that word offends you) in their pose, allowing for interaction and posing to present the figure in a variety of ways. That interaction comes at the price of well fitting and accurate looking clothes. Not to mention the limitations inherent in the smaller scale when it comes to fabric choices and details like buttons and zippers.

I still (respectfully) see the 12" figures as more toy-like, but see the PFs as statues all the way. And it's interesting that even average Joes who see them in my office instinctively call them statues. I have never had any casual viewer or non-collector refer to them as dolls, yet I have had that happen with the 12" figures.

 

[The Josh]

Yeah, my Dad jokes with me all the time about them being Dolls. It doesn't bother me because I know he's kidding nor would it if someone saw them and called them that. It's understandable because it's the first thing that comes to mind. You can tell though when someone is talking down (if you want to call it that) towards a certain type of product. Which isn't cool in my book.

 

[Bannister]

Yeah, my Dad jokes with me all the time about them being Dolls. It doesn't bother me because I know he's kidding nor would it if someone saw them and called them that. It's understandable because it's the first thing that comes to mind. You can tell though when someone is talking down (if you want to call it that) towards a certain type of product. Which isn't cool in my book.

Quit living in denial barbie boy.

 

[Bodie The Cursed]

< LOL!!

 

[The Josh]

Quit living in denial barbie boy.

I know

 

[Bannister]

I know

Admitting you have a problem is the first step to recovery.