Please Standardise to 1:4 Scale

[fuzzylojiks]

Dear Sideshow,

You have been doing and awesome job and I thank you for the excellent quality pieces you have recently put out. I'm so glad you're around to fill our houses with collectibles that give us such joy!

As I like to display my characters together and change my displays around, the scale of statues and how well the look next to each other is important to me. I hear that Colossus is going to be in 1:5 scale (as well as 1:6) while Olivetti's Venom/Carnage/Spidey is in 1:4 scale and so is the upcoming Punisher comiquette and all the other PFs.

With the variance in scale recently, it's been hard to justify collecting multiple lines when they just don't fit next to each other. Please consider making statues and comiquettes in 1:4 lines (in addition to your 1:6) instead of 1:4 and 1:5 so they go together. I would truly like to collect the PF line but hopefully the scale will be the same as the comiquettes so we can display them side by side.

Here is some data collected over the course of my exploration.

Punisher as I hear is 1:4 scale (pls correct me if I'm wrong), but his actual height only stands about 15.8" from the promo shots being dwarfed by other 1:4 scale figures (subject to error and changes in perspective). Hopefully, I'm wrong on this if so please clarify.

Calculations
Total height of statue: 20" (508mm)
Ratio of Punisher to total height of statue minus gun and base = 0.79
Total height of Punisher = 15.8" (401.32mm) (could be off by up to 5% because he's not standing up straight)

15.8" x 4 = 63.2" = 5.266" = 5' 3.2"
15.8" x 5 = 79" = 6.583" = 6' 7"

From Marvel Universe punisher is 6' 1"

Conclusion
The Status is really short for 1:4 scale at 5' 3.2" or a really tall 1:5 version.
At 1:4 scale he is almost 8" shorter than his stated height in Marvel Universe.

Now the problem lies when you pair him with other statues.

Back in Black (BIB) Spider-man = 16.8-17"
Mystique = 16.2"

As you can see he's both shorter than BIB Spiderman and Mystique.

This problem with scale is alarming to say the least. Another pic next to other 1:4 scale pieces on the right.

In addition, Mystique and Back in black spiderman don't seem to fit entirely into 1:4 or 1:5 scale.


Mystique - Height 16.2"
1:4 ----- 16.2"x4= 64.5"=5.4 feet
1:5 ----- 16.2"x5 = 81"= 6.75 feet
1:6 ----- 16.2"x6 = 97.2 = 8.1feet

"Back in Black" Spider-man
Height = 16.8-17"

1:4 ----- 116.8" x 4 = 67.2" = 5.6 feet
1:5 ----- 16.8" x 5 = 84" = 7 feet
1:6 ----- 16.8" x 6 = 100.8" = 8.4 feet

1:4 ----- 17"x4=68"=5.667 feet
1:5 ----- 17"x5=85"=7083 feet
1:6 ----- 17"x6"=102=8.5feet


Hey all, thanks for replies so far.

I remeasured them because of their poses they are not standing straight.
Method: measure with tape from sole of foot to hip and then hip to top of head and add them together.

Measurements
Mystique = 16.2"
Back in black Spider-man = 16.8-17"

Data manipulation

Mystique
Height 16.2"

1:4 ----- 16.2"x4= 64.5"=5.4 feet = 5'4.8"
1:5 ----- 16.2"x5 = 81"= 6.75 feet = 6'9"
1:6 ----- 16.2"x6 = 97.2 = 8.1feet

"Back in Black" Spider-man
Height = 16.8-17"

1:4 ----- 116.8" x 4 = 67.2" = 5.6 feet
1:5 ----- 16.8" x 5 = 84" = 7 feet
1:6 ----- 16.8" x 6 = 100.8" = 8.4 feet

1:4 ----- 17" x 4 = 68" = 5.667 feet
1:5 ----- 17" x 5 = 85" = 7083 feet
1:6 ----- 17" x 6"=102 = 8.5feet

Conclusions

Mystique
At 1:4 scale she is 5.4'.
At 1:5 scale she is 6.75'.

So I'm presuming that's it's 1:4 scale unless she's a basketball player. But 5'4.8" which seems a little short.

Marvel handbook states Mystique's height at 5'10" but variable since she's a shapeshifter.

Back in Black Spider-man
At 1:4 scale he is 5.6-5.667'.
At 1:5 scale he's about 7-7.08'.

It seems more likely that he is 1:4 scale unless again he's exceptionally tall. At 5.6feet or 5 feet 7.2" he is average height, which seems about right from the comics.

Marvel handbook states Spidey's height at 5'10".

So in conclusion, it seems they are both most likely 1:4 scale where Mystique stands at 5' 4.8" (expected to be 5'10") and Spidey stands at 5' 7.2" (expected to be 5'10"). Since Spidey is sometimes depicted as pretty short, that height seems fine.

Once again, sorry to bother you SSC and thanks for listening so closely to your loyal fans! Sincerely, Fuzz.

Growing list of 1:4 (or close) scale comiquettes:

1. Carnage Comiquette
2. Venom Comiquette
3. Spiderman Comiquette
4. Ironman Comiquette
5. Stealth Ironman Comiquette
6. Punisher Comiquette
7. Elektra Comiquette
8. Mystique Comiquette
9. Ironman Maquette
10. Back in Black Spiderman Comiquette
11. Iron Spiderman Comiquette
12. Man-Thing
13. Silver Surfer Comiquette.
14. Namor Comiquette
15. Classic Ironman Comiquette
16. Wolverine Comiquette
17. Warmachine Maquette

Any future 1:5 offerings will not go well next to these or any Premium Formats.

Other figures that 1:5 comiquettes won't go with are the premium formats from other genres like Star Wars, LOTR, SOTAs Street Fighter line etc.

 

[fuzzylojiks]

i'm glad a lot more people are annoyed with scale being all over the place.


SS please listen to the fans and quit the 1:5 scale. most of the marvel stuff are 1:4 so stick to that. why ruin the fans collection when its obvious we are ALL looking for uniformity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[fuzzylojiks]

I don't understand why Sideshow won't get more uniform with statue size. Why on earth are they making Colossus 1/5th when Wolverine, Sabertooth, and Cyclops are going to be 1/4th?

It is really annoying when certain comiquettes are 1/5th and others are 1/4th...and even more annoying when we are left to try and figure out which is which.

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[occulum]

... just for the record ... I dont care if Sideshow changes the varying scale ...

 

[glyoung99]

I would also like to see a 1:4 standard. I can't make any sense out of a 1:5 Colossus and have no idea where to put it so I'll probably just pass and wait for a 1:4.

 

[Dr Sanchez]

I will use my 1st post to add my support to this thread, i have already contacted Sideshow to ask them to stop messing with the scales on these pieces and just stick to 1/4.

 

[lcummins]

All Premium Format figures are 1/4 scale. Some may be a bit short or tall, but they are all supposed to be 1/4 scale.

The Maquettes and Comiquettes are mostly 1/5 scale, with some in 1/4 scale and the rare oddballs in 1/3 or 1/2. If you look at which ones are 1/4 scale, they are mostly the ones that really don't work as a PF, such as Iron Man, so maybe Sideshow made those to match the PF line; the rest pretty much are 1/5 scale and match up.

I think this basically gives the collector 2 lines to collect... 1/4 scale PF's (with the occasional comiquette or maquette) or 1/5 scale statues, and most characters have a good chance to end up in both scales and formats.

Looking at the Punisher for instance, he has been done in PF and now as a comiquette... and I firmly believe the comiquette is 1/5 scale, not 1/4.

 

[Dr Sanchez]

So then will the upcoming Olivetti Hulk Comiquette be in 1/5?

I sure hope not.

 

[glyoung99]

They should just stop it and make them all 1:4.

 

[lcummins]

So then will the upcoming Olivetti Hulk Comiquette be in 1/5?

I sure hope not.

My guess would be yes...

They should just stop it and make them all 1:4.

I think they see them as two separate lines to collect... some will only collect statues because they don't like cloth, while others might only collect the PF line. Of course, some collectors will want to collect both lines... and there is where the issue of scale arises.

 

[shocktrooper_au]

I don't collect statues or PF, but as a 1:6 collector I can agree with collectors here, please standardize your scales observe the characters height in regards to it's lore & relation to other characters.

 

[occulum]

Im still OK with the varying scales.
It mixes things up a little and gives them a reason to produce the same character in multiple formats.....

 

[Blackthornone]

They should just stop it and make them all 1:4.

1/4 is too big. The PFs can remain 1/4, but the comiquettes should be no more than 1/5. Heck, I'd even like to see 1/6. These simply take up too much room. I think that realistic detail can be achieved in 1/6 scale. I think the detail is all that is important. If you want it bigger, just get closer to it, or get a magnifying glass. With them smaller, they can be cheaper, and let there be more room for more characters.

 

[the Doctor]

1/4 scale only please sideshow.i want all the marvel figures the same scale.The characters you do in 1/5 i will not buy which ashame

mix the starwars pf sizes up if you like

this thread should have a poll so we can vote.

 

[Dr Sanchez]

The thing is a lot of their Comiquettes are 1:4 and also 1:5, there seems to be no consistency with regard to scale.

The Classic Iron man Comiquette is 1:4 also Man-Thing & Silver Surfer Comiquettes are 1:4.

It just seems that Sideshow are randomly choosing pieces to be produced in different scale which is making peoples displays look very odd.

 

[lcummins]

The thing is a lot of their Comiquettes are 1:4 and also 1:5, there seems to be no consistency with regard to scale.

The Classic Iron man Comiquette is 1:4 also Man-Thing & Silver Surfer Comiquettes are 1:4.

It just seems that Sideshow are randomly choosing pieces to be produced in different scale which is making peoples displays look very odd.

As mentioned above, the ones done in 1/4 scale are primarily the figures that don't really have clothes, etc. to translate into mixed-media Premium Formats well. The Iron Man, Man Thing and Silver Surfer. all don't really have anything to add to the mixed-media format, so I think that is why they were done as comiquettes instead of PFs... collectors can still have them in both the PF line and the comiquette/maquette line. I don't think it is a "random" choice at all, but deliberate and thought out.

 

[jimjimmyjones85]

I wish this were done.

Maybe Comiquettes and PF's 1/4

Dio's 1/5 ?

 

[fuzzylojiks]

Punisher is 1:4, Spiderman, Venom, Carnage is 1:4, Mystique and BIB/Iron Spiderman is closer to 1:4. These are all comiquettes.

 

[Kibishii]

They should just stop it and make them all 1:4.

Agreed, the reason I cancelled my Punisher is because he wasn’t 1/4th and I was under the impression that he would be.

So then will the upcoming Olivetti Hulk Comiquette be in 1/5?
I sure hope not.

I will be very, very disappointed if they do the next Hulk 1/5th because I don’t really care for the original Hulk PF and I really want a Hulk for my Avengers setup.

The biggest thing is consistency. Last I heard was that Cyclops will be 1/4th, but Colossus will be 1/5th? What the heck, give us consistency for display. Sideshow at least should start displaying on their webpage whether the item is intended to be 1/4th or 1/5th so that fans don't have to play measurements to figure it out.

 

[fuzzylojiks]

Agreed, the reason I cancelled my Punisher is because he wasn’t 1/4th and I was under the impression that he would be.

I will be very, very disappointed if they do the next Hulk 1/5th because I don’t really care for the original Hulk PF and I really want a Hulk for my Avengers setup.

The biggest thing is consistency. Last I heard was that Cyclops will be 1/4th, but Colossus will be 1/5th? What the heck, give us consistency for display. Sideshow at least should start displaying on their webpage whether the item is intended to be 1/4th or 1/5th so that fans don't have to play measurements to figure it out.

Totally agree, hulk at 1/5th will be so bad and I won't get him, been waiting for a nice big modern hulk for forever

1:5 is fail.

Standardise please.