Poll: Who do you hate more? Ewoks or Jar Jar Binks

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Who do you hate more?

  • Ewoks

    Votes: 18 19.1%
  • Jar Jar Binks

    Votes: 76 80.9%

  • Total voters
    94
Darth Loki said:
Why couldn't this have happened in ROTS?

I thought for sure, since the second TPM finished, that the point of Jar Jar, other than comic relief, was to be the innocent character that Anakin/Vader sliced down in episode 3. That'd be the point where the audience saw that he had irretrievably fallen to the dark side.

Mr. Lucas upped the ante, impressively, surprisingly so, with the slaughter of the younglings.
 
pickard said:
I thought for sure, since the second TPM finished, that the point of Jar Jar, other than comic relief, was to be the innocent character that Anakin/Vader sliced down in episode 3. That'd be the point where the audience saw that he had irretrievably fallen to the dark side.


If only...


Do the dance, Chewie...:chew
 
Fritz said:
Personally, I thought the prequels made Vader look like more of a jerk than a cool evil sith lord like the original trilogy did. :p

I think the writing on ALL of the Star Wars films are more similiar that some people would like to believe... yes, even the coveted Empire. :monkey3

I think that the OT too made a cool character like Han Solo into a whining jerk as well. I remember when I first saw Empire (I was 17 at the time) that first scene Han has with Leia in the Hoth base was a little disorienting. Since when did Han talk like THIS in Star Wars?

"Don't get mushy on me, so long Princess!"
"Come on, you want me to stay cos the way you feel about ME!"


I guess a lot had happened in that three years. Maybe he hung out with Luke too much.

Then there was that VERY odd exchange in Luke's recovery room. We ALL know the lines by heart... but try to disect it the way we do with all of Anakin (Hayden) Skywalker's lines. Sure, we make Nerf Herder jokes now, but doesn't that dialog kind of suck... in the same way the dialogue between Anakin and Padme? Again, it has taken years for that dialogue to settle into where is it's so jarring.

And Han and Leia's famous romantic moment on the Falcon:

"HEY, your worship I'm only tryin' ta help!"
"You could be a little nicer though"


The way he said "nicer" he sounded more like a petulant little boy than a space pirate. :monkey4 :monkey4 :monkey4

And Han at his whiniest is in Jedi when he has that strained moment with Leia at the Ewok camp:

"Could you tell Luke? Is that who you could tell?"

With lines like this, it makes you kind of wish that he never left the carbo slab. :monkey3

But having said all of that... this is Star Wars and I love it. I too see the films as a whole rather than six films. And more importantly, they are George Lucas's films... like it or not. I HATE when people talk about having Peter Jackson helm the prequels... the conceit that some other director would have made these films better. Sure, he had enough money to buy "better" prequel scripts. He didn't have to pen these prequels himself. But the fact that he DID makes me believe that these aren't just films to market for him... like some people have cynically claimed. He didn't want to create some mindless production line, making the films in a way that they would make even MORE money. I don't think he isn't the money grubbing movie mogul that people make him out to be.

I think he went through the painful process of writing these films for himself because of the creative impulse... the drive he had as an artist to make them. It is simple as that. It is his vision. His film saga. And I think he wanted to keep it that way. I admire that he pushed himself to be the one to bring it to screen, warts and all... and not just phoned it in to another artist.

Spielberg once said that Lucas is VERY protective of his films... and that he asked to direct one of the prequels but Lucas wouldn't let him. In the end, Lucas did relent and let Spielberg have a swing at some conceptual work on Episode III.

So if you want a Peter Jackson film to watch, I can recommend at least three for you... just not that last monkey picture. And I usually like monkey pictures. :monkey3

But if you want to see a Lucas film, flaws and all, well I can recommend quite a few as well. :monkey3
 
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People always complain about the quick love that Padme and Ankain have. Well what always urked me was the quick love between Han and Leia. I mean Han is around Leia for a few seconds, she say a cutdown to him and next he is saying how much he likes here.

Yea, OT FTW!!!!!!
 
EVILFACE said:
People always complain about the quick love that Padme and Ankain have. Well what always urked me was the quick love between Han and Leia. I mean Han is around Leia for a few seconds, she say a cutdown to him and next he is saying how much he likes here.

Yea, OT FTW!!!!!!
I think the difference there is that Harrison Ford and Carrie Fisher had good onscreen chemistry whereas Hayden and Natalie... not so much.
 
Wait...I thought I clicked into the Sideshow Freaks forums, but here I seem to be in the RS forums...

no. no...it SAYS Sideshow Freaks.....what the f@&k is going on here?
 
TheObsoleteMan said:
I think the difference there is that Harrison Ford and Carrie Fisher had good onscreen chemistry whereas Hayden and Natalie... not so much.

I think Harrison Ford's charm alone does much to create the illusion chemistry for the couple. As for Carrie Fisher part, the only "chemistry" she's responsible for was what she was snorting up her nose. :monkey3
 
Customikey said:
Wait...I thought I clicked into the Sideshow Freaks forums, but here I seem to be in the RS forums...
Whoa whoa whoa! Let's not say things we can't take back.
 
TheObsoleteMan said:
Whoa whoa whoa! Let's not say things we can't take back.


:rotfl :rotfl

All I'm saying is that Star Wars "fans" have a propensity to bash the hell out of the very thing they profess to love most. It's the reason I left the ranks of the hard-cores (although I still bear their invisible mark), and joined the throng of the casually ardent fans who enjoy the movies, but are wise enough not to dissect or examine them too closely.
 
Customikey said:
:rotfl :rotfl

All I'm saying is that Star Wars "fans" have a propensity to bash the hell out of the very thing they profess to love most. It's the reason I left the ranks of the hard-cores (although I still bear their invisible mark), and joined the throng of the casually ardent fans who enjoy the movies, but are wise enough not to dissect or examine them too closely.

I couldn't agree more. It seems that films that I love the most are the ones that are also deeply flawed... but I think that may be a part of the reason I like them so much.

If you are looking for flaws look no further than the Planet of the Apes saga. It's got plot holes that you drive a spaceship through. But I love them all the same.

But a thread like this always brings out the worst in fans.... and the "what do you hate more" selection just happens to have one from the OT and one from the PT. So you know it wouldn't long before it got to be an ugly battle between the two trilogies fan bases.

But for me I love all that is Star Wars. No other film series has ignited my imagination like that one has. And it's not blind worship... my eyes are completely open. Open to all of it's flaws and all it's beauty.
 
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I couldn't agree more. As to Apes, I really want to get that boxed set! But what does one do with an Ape Head? Besides serve dessert out of it?
 
Customikey said:
I couldn't agree more. As to Apes, I really want to get that boxed set! But what does one do with an Ape Head? Besides serve dessert out of it?

Well, I have mine sitting on top of my DVD player... Caesar ruling over all the I view. :monkey3

If anything else, it's a convertsation starter. :monkey1

Boy, talking about being off topic! Now, if only Lucas would release all of the Star Wars films in a hollowed out Jar Jar head! Wouldn't that just piss off all of those PT haters!:monkey4 :monkey4 :monkey4
 
Protozaius said:
Boy, talking about being off topic! Now, if only Lucas would release all of the Star Wars films in a hollowed out Jar Jar head! Wouldn't that just piss off all of those PT haters!:monkey4 :monkey4 :monkey4


Yeah. "It's not enough that we've been FORCED to buy all these versions of his stupid movies on VHS, and now DVD, now we have to get yet another version, and in a Jar Jar Stinks head?! It should have been a Kit Fisto head, since he's the ONLY reason to watch the prequels. Lucas keeps stealing my money!!!"
 
Good points guys. I think that's why with SW and LOTR I just prefer to be kind of hardcore but laid back at the same time. I know each has issues that if I think about would annoy me but I just sit back and enjoy the show.:chew
 
Customikey said:
:rotfl :rotfl
All I'm saying is that Star Wars "fans" have a propensity to bash the hell out of the very thing they profess to love most.
I think every group of fanatics does this. Trekkies are the worst. DC and Marvel comics fans do it a lot. Galactica fans have started doing it after the recent season finale.
 
Yeah, all fans do it but SW fans in general seem to be the worst. Myself included as I've bitched about things in the Saga many times. Like mucking Jar Jar me he :emperor forever.
 
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