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oh.

wait.

i just realized the "spoilers" thread has been locked.

again.

brilliant.


anyway, since this the no spoilers thread, i'll keep my comments relatively generic.

the good:
- the concept. pitting earth's deadliest hunters against the galaxy's best, on an alien game preserve along with other alien species.
- the first time all 3 preds decloaked. that was a pretty cool scene, and made me smile. more importantly, it made the predators look truly bada$$. unfortunately, this was pretty much the ONLY time they came across as bada$$.
- the score. john debney may have done little more than re-packaging alan silvestri's work, but it was GREAT to hear the original pred themes. really added to the atmosphere of the film.
- the make-up effects were generally good. nice and gory, the way it should be.

the bad:
- now, while the concept of the movie was solid and held lots of mouth-watering potential, the EXECUTION of it was dismal. what's the point of gathering the earth's so-called deadliest hunters when barely ANY of them got to demonstrate why they were supposedly so deadly? i never felt for a single moment that any of the characters in this entire group were dangerous or threatening. the majority of them just came across as heavily-armed, averagely-skilled humans. the "hidden" killers, when revealed, were just laughable, monologuing goons.
- an even bigger missed opportunity with regards to the concept was the alien planet. now, i understand this was not a huge-budgeted film. so they had to make do with terrestrial forestry as a location. but there wasn't even the slightest attempt to make the alien jungle look or feel alien! it just looked exactly like your regular earth jungle. that is simply ridiculous. come on. just minor touches were all that was needed. maybe a few native plants that just looked weird, either in shape, size or colour. but nothing. to me, why even bother setting it on an alien world then? if the idea was to bamboozle the audience into believing they were all still on earth, then the makers sure screwed up there too. cos practically every single trailer was selling the concept of this being an alien planet. it's an unforgiveable oversight.
- the new preds just do not have the grace and athleticism as the kevin peter hall pred. that guy moved like a hunter. he was bada$$. these new fellas seem almost awkward in some scenes. nowhere near as bad as the lumbering jocks in avp, but still unimpressive.
- the visual effects are inconsistent, to put it charitably. some, like the pred decloaking effects are great. the pred dogs aren't as bad as some make it out to be. but certain other effects like fire, are simply godawful. a modest budget is no excuse, in the era of district 9.
- far too many scenes and dialogue exchanges are lifted verbatim from p1. it may be fan service, but it's just unnecessary. and worse, feels more like a desperate attempt to score brownie points with familiarity rather than with originality.
- the swordfight showdown is a dud. i won't say more cos this is non-spoiler territory, except to sum up that it could've been the fight scene of the year if only the choreography was better planned.
- the way royce defeats the big bad predator is pretty blah. it's not terrible, just not very imaginative or rousing.
- the new pred designs aren't very good. i tried giving them the benefit of the doubt, saying it could look better on camera. it doesn't.

overall, this is by no means a disaster, in case my comments above appear to indicate that. it's mildly entertaining and has a few kick-ass scenes. but as a worthy successor to p1, it falls short of the mark. i put this down to a lack of ambition to really push things. they seem content to run a "greatest hits" compilation of fan-favourite predator ideas and moments, but reluctant to take those in a truly fresh or challenging direction. shoulda, woulda, coulda.

there's my 2 cents'. feel free to disagree.
 
What the hell is "chuffed". I'm American. :lol

Means "feeling good". Can't wait for Predators....gonna be watching it in 3 hrs time....trying to keep off reviews n spoilers so I can go in with a clean view of the film... Lets hope it lives upto the expectations.

On a side note can anyone tell me why people are hatin on Predator 2 ? the opening gun fight was just awesome..also the part where hes treating himself using bath tiles....c'mon !!!!
 
My girl and eye to see it last night and we really enjoyed it.
I do think the directing was a little flat at times and some elements lacked impact. I dare say another director may have done a better job. But it definitely was a lot of fun and it gets the sour tastes of AvP out of your mouth.
Brodie slots in well with Arnie and Danny I think. He was great to watch.
 
I just wanted to note that Predator's story is not really original, but an update of the most dangerous game, mixed with Agatha Christies, And then there were none. My guess is Rodriguez wanted to go back to the source. He made a familiar story, but what sets it apart from Predator is the pacing of the storyline, and the poorly executed antagonists.

Predator 2 is weaker than Predator for the opposite reason, the Antagonist is pretty awesome, it's the Protagonists (Apart from Glover) that needed more development, that's why you don't care when they die.
 
- the visual effects are inconsistent, to put it charitably. some, like the pred decloaking effects are great. the pred dogs aren't as bad as some make it out to be. but certain other effects like fire, are simply godawful. a modest budget is no excuse, in the era of district 9.

In regards to fire, I know exactly the scene you're talking about, and I thought it looked like something lifted from the Sci-Fi channel.

- far too many scenes and dialogue exchanges are lifted verbatim from p1. it may be fan service, but it's just unnecessary. and worse, feels more like a desperate attempt to score brownie points with familiarity rather than with originality.

Too freaking true.

overall, this is by no means a disaster, in case my comments above appear to indicate that. it's mildly entertaining and has a few kick-ass scenes. but as a worthy successor to p1, it falls short of the mark. i put this down to a lack of ambition to really push things. they seem content to run a "greatest hits" compilation of fan-favourite predator ideas and moments, but reluctant to take those in a truly fresh or challenging direction. shoulda, woulda, coulda.

Agreed!

I walked out of the cinema with the same feeling I had after watching Terminator Salvation; confused. I wanted to think 'awesome' or 'that surpassed my every expectation' but sheer optimism couldn't make up for it's shortcomings. While it wasn't as much of a bomb (for me) as T:S, in the Predator series, I'd rank it as second-to-worst, better than AvP, but behind P2 and AvPR.
 
because rodriguez "homaged" mctiernan's movie almost verbatim at some points.

watched it on fri nite. can't say i was disappointed since i tried keeping my expectations fairly low. but this was NOT a good movie. it had some good moments here and there, and even a few scenes that made the fan in me grin like a kid on christmas morning. but by & large, this is kind of a dud.

i think i'll pose my main comments in the "spoilers" thread, since it's hard to discuss the finer points of the film here....

"Homage" is what Singer tried (and failed) to pay with Superman Returns. This is a blatant ripoff. I would cite every example where this film shamelessly rips off McT's classic but we can't post spoilers. Suffice to say that the Predators all looked like they had Down's syndrome. Stan Winston must be rolling over in his grave.
 
I watched it today again, this time in English.

I have to say I was abit iniquitous. I watched it in Russian the first time, and I have to say - Russians with their silly oral translation ruined the experience. My thoughts, with spoilers:

I actually thought it was pretty good this time around. The first half of the movie was good, but it got more interesting and me on the edge of my chair when Noland came into play. He was crazy (what do you expect), but he was interesting. I think he succeeded in bringing in the fear factor. But when the predators came into play... It was a ride down the hill.

They were way too easy to kill. IMHO it would have worked out better, if
A) There was only 1 predator (Mr. Black)
B) They would have killed Flusher differently, by setting up some more complicated trap for example, because how he died was contradictory to Mr. Black not even getting hurt when Edwin exploded. They would have made the Falconer only get wounded by Hanzo, and then killed him off with the Classic.

I also find that they handled the characters pretty well. They were interesting, and I actually cared.
I think the classic pred was the best of them preds.

There were quite a few bad point to it too, though. It was cheesy at certain parts (IE when Izzy explains to the viewers how Royce set them up), Nolands explosion, Royce walking like he was drunk at the end, and the many many homages to the first movie. To be honest even "Long tall sally" being played as the credits roll was a bit cheesy, but maybe its just me.

But yeah, all in all I think the movie was actually good, as it focused more on the characters. What annoyed me mostly was how the predators played out, and how stupid they looked (not the costumes, but what the actors did in them.)

In my rating, Id put it slightly behind P2. Indeed, P2 didnt do a good job getting us into the characters, but I still would have been sad if Danny Golver was killed.
 
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I liked it, so did my wife which was a surprise.
While not the best movie ever made, I give it 7/10
 
I also agree that this movie could have been a whole lot better if it had more Alien life forms on this planet cause we dont see many. I like what Avatar did with CGI of all the different animals, plants, etc...........this movie could have benefited greatly from having something similar to show off the Alien planet.
 
Nah. The film was better then you. Thats for sure.



:lol....if we want to play this way.
 
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