Prometheus Sequel (ALIEN: Covenant)

[olbertfrog]

Re: Prometheus Sequel : Paradise?

They need to bring back Spaith or at least use the Engineer concepts he defined in his scripts, treatment, backstory and build a story around it. And have the ***** to show epic stuff not just hint at it. They need to stop the hauted house **** (one ship, a group of humans, a few monsters) and go big, AVATAR big.
Say what you want about this movie but at least it delivered the goods in term of scale, i felt cheated in PROMETHEUS.
We met one of the major civilization at play in the ALIEN mythos and we end with one poor shmuck alone hunting humans.
PROMETHEUS should have been the first half of the movie, then the second part and climax was to be PARADISE.
Hope they will deliver the goods but i doubt it.
They are not going to put a ****load of money in the sequel, im sure they will go "cheap".

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

Re: Prometheus Sequel : Paradise?

You don't have powers allowing you to discern truth OR lies over the Internet, when your correspondant is thousands of miles from you and you have never actually met them in the first place. To declare otherwise is to reveal the depth of your delusion.



You don't even know me. Not to mention, irony is delicious because here you are, in not only this thread but others, attacking me left and right. I assure you, you have not yet seen an attack from me - I prefer a worthy opponent.... which isn't you. You're just a kid.



That's because you dont know me, kiddo. This drama is pretty funny, though. I'll grant you that.



Would you like some cheese with that whine? Ooops! You are under-age, sorry kiddo.

*cue the lightning and thunder, for the kid has spoken!!!!!!!11!!* Spare us all the drama. Now get off my screen, and get used to the idea that I will post anywhere I want on these boards and there is nary a thing you can do about it. And while I post, I'll be a lot more polite about it than you, child. [summons User CP]

The Kiddie Hour is officially over. I have never seen someone go so completely batguano over defending a work of fiction. Never. But it does have its funny moments.



Why not? It could not possibly make this wretched franchise one whit MORE wretched. And that, dear friends, is a fact.

You need to be locked in a padded room. Just absolutely bat-**** insane. No more needs to be said at this point.

 

[draekus]

Re: Prometheus Sequel : Paradise?

They need to bring back Spaith or at least use the Engineer concepts he defined in his scripts, treatment, backstory and build a story around it. And have the ***** to show epic stuff not just hint at it. They need to stop the hauted house **** (one ship, a group of humans, a few monsters) and go big, AVATAR big.
Say what you want about this movie but at least it delivered the goods in term of scale, i felt cheated in PROMETHEUS.
We met one of the major civilization at play in the ALIEN mythos and we end with one poor shmuck alone hunting humans.
PROMETHEUS should have been the first half of the movie, then the second part and climax was to be PARADISE.
Hope they will deliver the goods but i doubt it.
They are not going to put a ****load of money in the sequel, im sure they will go "cheap".

I'll have to disagree. The reason I like ALIEN so much more than ALIENS was because the former basically had the "haunted house feel". Aliens was a great action movie, but I felt it lost a lot of what Alien was about. (Don't get me wrong...Aliens was great, it just doesn't compare to Alien.) And I hated Avatar. Yeah it looked great and had an "epic" feel, but the story was incredibly boring to me. Cameron could have done much better.

And just because a movie doesn't have "EPIC" war scenes doesn't mean it was made on the cheap. Instead the money may just have been spent on actors, practical effects/props, etc.

 

[olbertfrog]

Re: Prometheus Sequel : Paradise?

Scott and co said they were trying to get far from the Alien tropes, the haunted house thing but in the end they done it again.
Theay wanted to have a fresh spin on the mythos but done the same thing again. i really dont see the point seriously.
PROMETHEUS is supposed to be another kind of animal.
I don't need intergalactic wars (even if it was originally Scott's plan more on that later) i need more stuff on screen than what i got. The opening hinted at something grand, epic but it stayed at the concept state.
The haunted house thing is done to death, i'm not asking for battles and stuff, just show civilization, planets, not just one ****ing guy stranded hunting scared humans!


When i say cheap im being harsh, coz i know the movie was not cheap but it was too small for me, again humans stranded with monsters COME ONNNNNNNN just do another ****ing alien movie and be over with it. Dont create a grand mythology and concepts and show only this! Whats annoys me is that maybe (and its a big maybe) it was the plan to show everything in the sequel but its dumb because Scott had one shot.
FOX have been doing cheap stuff with the alien universe for a while now, they wer ok to give more money to Scott for this one but for the next (wich will not be directed by Scott i can bet my life on it) they will go cheap the same way theyve been doing with all their AVP ****.

In one of the first interviews about Scott's plans about an ALIEN sequel he said somethin in the line of "the ship is a bomber, the eggs its payload. Who is this pilot and what kind of enemy you could use this weapon against. There must be something far worse than us out there at war with the pilot race".
Now that is interesting.

I think the universe is done for now.
Prometheus sequel is probably dead or will be done the same way avps were.
until the weels turns again and some know director is asked to tackle it again.
Hope i'm wrong but this what i hear...

 

[abake]

Re: Prometheus Sequel : Paradise?

you said: Alien with a Space Jockey

did you mean putting a Predator with a Space Jockey?

Also I didn't say worst. I said JUST AS stupid.
which it is. the concept of Engineers responsible for life is pretty stupid.

It was a joke anyway, I wasn't serious when I said this 3 months ago, I wasn't being serious now either.

Engineers didn't create life.
They just helped it evolve into humans.

It's a fiction, so it's not stupid.
What is stupid is trying to tie in two different fictitious universes that don't add anything one to the other, but rather detract one from the other.

 

[Niltusk]

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So I'm still not sure what the fascination is with forum goers visiting forums for movies they don't like just to continue bashing the film...and then do the same in a forum for said movie's upcoming sequel. I'm not saying its wrong or right, I just don't understand.

Don't get me wrong, if I didn't like a movie, I might go to the forum after having seen it and then post about why I didn't like. But I don't think I would hang around to further bash the movie or the people that liked it. Why bother I guess? (That's just me. Not saying everyone should react the same.)

But I guess my question is, specifically in reference to this thread, do those that hated Prometheus, still want to see a sequel made? Do you have any interest in seeing a sequel that is close in tone to the first?

I agree 100%. Its one thing to say you dislike a movie or have issues with it and move along, but its so weird that we get these mega trolls that want to dwell in threads on movies they supposedly can't stand.

If I'm posting in a thread and then a movie comes out and I mysteriously am not posting in that thread any longer, guess what? I couldn't stand the movie. Unlike some of these people I come here to actually discuss things I like, not whine like a retarded pos about how much I dislike what others like. The really funny thing is when you get dip****s posting the exact same troll bait in a thread every day, but they say they aren't "trolls", they just want to discuss the film.

Lack of moderation cuts both ways I guess.

 

[crows]

Re: Prometheus Sequel : Paradise?

I'll have to disagree. The reason I like ALIEN so much more than ALIENS was because the former basically had the "haunted house feel". Aliens was a great action movie, but I felt it lost a lot of what Alien was about. (Don't get me wrong...Aliens was great, it just doesn't compare to Alien.) And I hated Avatar. Yeah it looked great and had an "epic" feel, but the story was incredibly boring to me. Cameron could have done much better.

And just because a movie doesn't have "EPIC" war scenes doesn't mean it was made on the cheap. Instead the money may just have been spent on actors, practical effects/props, etc.

What would you like to see in the sequel? What should the sequel be like?

 

[spindrift]

Re: Prometheus Sequel : Paradise?

I think it is going to happen next for Ridley..or is it the Blade Runner sequel? I'll take either!

 

[ExMem-LarjaThwei]

Re: Prometheus Sequel : Paradise?

I agree 100%. Its one thing to say you dislike a movie or have issues with it and move along, but its so weird that we get these mega trolls that want to dwell in threads on movies they supposedly can't stand.

If I'm posting in a thread and then a movie comes out and I mysteriously am not posting in that thread any longer, guess what? I couldn't stand the movie. Unlike some of these people I come here to actually discuss things I like, not whine like a retarded pos about how much I dislike what others like. The really funny thing is when you get dip****s posting the exact same troll bait in a thread every day, but they say they aren't "trolls", they just want to discuss the film.

Lack of moderation cuts both ways I guess.

Hey now, GullyRama isn't trolling. It's simply stating it's opinion. Stating it's opinion a total of 134 times in both threads.

 

[SixMillionDollarMan Guy]

Re: Prometheus Sequel : Paradise?

I agree 100%. Its one thing to say you dislike a movie or have issues with it and move along, but its so weird that we get these mega trolls that want to dwell in threads on movies they supposedly can't stand.

If I'm posting in a thread and then a movie comes out and I mysteriously am not posting in that thread any longer, guess what? I couldn't stand the movie. Unlike some of these people I come here to actually discuss things I like, not whine like a retarded pos about how much I dislike what others like. The really funny thing is when you get dip****s posting the exact same troll bait in a thread every day, but they say they aren't "trolls", they just want to discuss the film.

Lack of moderation cuts both ways I guess.

 

[Niltusk]

Re: Prometheus Sequel : Paradise?

Hey now, GullyRama isn't trolling. It's simply stating it's opinion. Stating it's opinion a total of 134 times in both threads.

 

[SixMillionDollarMan Guy]

Re: Prometheus Sequel : Paradise?

^^

Lol at Wonder Twins.

 

[Devil_666]

Re: Prometheus Sequel : Paradise?

I think it is going to happen next for Ridley..or is it the Blade Runner sequel? I'll take either!

Actually neither, his next film is "The Counselor".

But seriuosly, unless they've been able to keep things super secretive (which is doubtful in Hollywood) at this point in time neither Prometheus or Blade Runner 2 seems to be even remotely ready for anything.

Neither have writers, a script or even a cast.

Nothing.

Last I heard they wanted to start filming Blade Runner 2 by the end of 2013 with a release in 2014. But again, nothing solid has come out about that movie recently. So at the very least, you probably won't hear anything about a Prometheus sequel until 2014 with a 2015 release.

 

[CelticPredator]

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The Counselor has been filming for a while. I don't think he's going to do Blade Runner any more, if Prometheus has already being worked on now.

 

[Devil_666]

Re: Prometheus Sequel : Paradise?

The Counselor has been filming for a while.

It comes out November 15th.

 

[CelticPredator]

Re: Prometheus Sequel : Paradise?

Hence why I said, it's been filming for a while. It's probably close to being in post production, if it isn't already.

 

[draekus]

Re: Prometheus Sequel : Paradise?

What would you like to see in the sequel? What should the sequel be like?

That's a good question. I'm no writer and I am not sure that I can go as far as to say the exact events that I would like to see occur. However, I don't beleive the sequel necessarily needs to have the "haunted house" feel, that everyone thinks has been done to death (but that I still love).
In a general sense I would like it to be a smart Sci-Fi/horror thriller that continues to touch on the topics of Religion, Faith, creation/extermination, and forced evolution. Those topics were all present in Prometheus, now they just need to expand on them in the sequel. Also, I'm OK with action sequences, but I don't want it to be an action movie. (I can get great action movies elsewhere.)

Like most, I have a lot of questions after the first movie. In fact, that's why I liked it so much. It answered questions, but posed so many more that I want answers to. I want the same mystery in the next one. In other words, keep answering questions...but keep creating them. I don't want everything spoon fed to me.

My questions: (I'm sure many have the same ones):

• How exactly/often have the Engineers been involved in Human development and why.
• Who created them?
• Why were we created?
• What is the Engineer's overall purpose - what do they strive for as a species. (I think it was obvious that Humans were not their pinnacle creation.)
• Are there different factions/religions amongst the Engineer species? (I have to assume there is, right?)
• Did the Engineer's shutdown the project that created the ALIEN after the incident on LV- 223. Or did they continue it?
• If so, what was that projects final outcome(s)? Do they consider it successful?
• Was the original ALIEN and the eggs on the original crashed Juggernaut (LV-426) a precursor to the canisters/Deacon on LV-223? Or was it the other way around?
• What are their future plans for humanity, if any?
• What happens to Shaw after leaving in the Juggernaut?
• How will a group of Enginners react to David? Will it be the same as the first?

What do you guys want to see? What answers do you want?

 

[SixMillionDollarMan Guy]

Re: Prometheus Sequel : Paradise?

^^

 

[crows]

Re: Prometheus Sequel : Paradise?

That's a good question. I'm no writer and I am not sure that I can go as far as to say the exact events that I would like to see occur. However, I don't beleive the sequel necessarily needs to have the "haunted house" feel, that everyone thinks has been done to death (but that I still love).
In a general sense I would like it to be a smart Sci-Fi/horror thriller that continues to touch on the topics of Religion, Faith, creation/extermination, and forced evolution. Those topics were all present in Prometheus, now they just need to expand on them in the sequel. Also, I'm OK with action sequences, but I don't want it to be an action movie. (I can get great action movies elsewhere.)

Like most, I have a lot of questions after the first movie. In fact, that's why I liked it so much. It answered questions, but posed so many more that I want answers to. I want the same mystery in the next one. In other words, keep answering questions...but keep creating them. I don't want everything spoon fed to me.

My questions: (I'm sure many have the same ones):

• How exactly/often have the Engineers been involved in Human development and why.
• Who created them?
• Why were we created?
• What is the Engineer's overall purpose - what do they strive for as a species. (I think it was obvious that Humans were not their pinnacle creation.)
• Are there different factions/religions amongst the Engineer species? (I have to assume there is, right?)
• Did the Engineer's shutdown the project that created the ALIEN after the incident on LV- 223. Or did they continue it?
• If so, what was that projects final outcome(s)? Do they consider it successful?
• Was the original ALIEN and the eggs on the original crashed Juggernaut (LV-426) a precursor to the canisters/Deacon on LV-223? Or was it the other way around?
• What are their future plans for humanity, if any?
• What happens to Shaw after leaving in the Juggernaut?
• How will a group of Enginners react to David? Will it be the same as the first?

What do you guys want to see? What answers do you want?

Those are good questions. I would love to see the answers to those.

I personally want to see their world. I want for Shaw to actually get there, I really don't know how they are going to pull that off, but I would love to see where they come from.

I would also like to know what would happen once they see Shaw. Would they freak out? or be curious?

I mean, I guess after the ending all the questions I have are about Shaw taking that other ship and going there. That's what I am most curious about.

I also want to know the connection between Prometheus and Alien,

I would really like to know what happened to the Deacon Alien. Makes me really curious too.

 

[draekus]

Re: Prometheus Sequel : Paradise?

Those are good questions. I would love to see the answers to those.

I personally want to see their world. I want for Shaw to actually get there, I really don't know how they are going to pull that off, but I would love to see where they come from.

I would also like to know what would happen once they see Shaw. Would they freak out? or be curious?

I mean, I guess after the ending all the questions I have are about Shaw taking that other ship and going there. That's what I am most curious about.

I also want to know the connection between Prometheus and Alien,

I would really like to know what happened to the Deacon Alien. Makes me really curious too.

Those are good questions too. I get a feeling we'll get answers to some of our questions. I just hope they get the ball rolling on this. I don't want to see it go into development hell.