Prometheus Sequel (ALIEN: Covenant)

[RIDDICK]

Re: Prometheus Sequel (March 2016)

I don't get upset when RIDDICK is hating on something. I mean c'mon, I'm sure you even hate the air you breathe

Francis is my idol

 

[abake]

Re: Prometheus Sequel (March 2016)

I really can't get very excited about any Ridley Scott project anymore, but I'm sure I'll watch this if it happens.

 

[Xenoburger_]

Re: Prometheus Sequel (March 2016)

I don't get upset when RIDDICK is hating on something. I mean c'mon, I'm sure you even hate the air you breathe

I don't get upset when RIDDICK is hating on something, because I know he thinks the Star Wars PT is better than the OT.

 

[Uncanny Web-Slinger]

Re: Prometheus Sequel (March 2016)

Would've been cool to have David body-less throughout the movie or at least on some form of body that isn't humanoid. I mean he's an android he doesn't need air or food to survive so there was no reason other than convenience

I don't get upset when RIDDICK is hating on something. I mean c'mon, I'm sure you even hate the air you breathe

 

[a-dev]

Re: Prometheus Sequel (March 2016)

I don't get upset when RIDDICK is hating on something, because I know he thinks the Star Wars PT is better than the OT.

Good to know. Ammunition for the next time he tries to get a dig in at me or Difabio over T2

Now to look for weaknesses in Kara and Khev's movie preferences...

 

[DiFabio]

Re: Prometheus Sequel (March 2016)

Some plot details.

Ridley Scott Reveals

Ridley Scott sucks.

 

[Khev]

Re: Prometheus Sequel (March 2016)

Now to look for weaknesses in Kara and Khev's movie preferences...

Good luck!

You did make me think about what movies I like that other people have criticized though. Prometheus and the Hobbit trilogy are some recent examples. But I like to think I have a pretty good handle on what films are "better" than others even though even that is a subjective decision. There are any number of movies that I "like" better than others but that I think weren't better in terms of filmmaking.

Which makes me curious about you. You prefer T2 to T1, but do you think it's "better?"

 

[a-dev]

Re: Prometheus Sequel (March 2016)

Good luck!

You did make me think about what movies I like that other people have criticized though. Prometheus and the Hobbit trilogy are some recent examples. But I like to think I have a pretty good handle on what films are "better" than others even though even that is a subjective decision. There are any number of movies that I "like" better than others but that I think weren't better in terms of filmmaking.

Which makes me curious about you. You prefer T2 to T1, but do you think it's "better?"

I would say no, I don't think its better. I don't think it's worse either. Nostalgia is the only thing really that tips me in favour of T2 when it comes to polls.

I had typed out a big thing but deleted it. I forgot this is a Prometheus thread.

 

[DiFabio]

Re: Prometheus Sequel (March 2016)

And the fact that the effects, acting and soundtrack for T2 are all technically better.

 

[Khev]

Re: Prometheus Sequel (March 2016)

I would say no, I don't think its better. I don't think it's worse either. Nostalgia is the only thing really that tips me in favour of T2 when it comes to polls.

You know it's funny because if you take nostalgia into account I should like T2 a lot more than T1. When T1 came out it wasn't instantly iconic at least for my 10 year old self. I remember the "I'll be back" clip being played when Siskel & Ebert reviewed it but it wasn't really until Running Man and other Arnold movies started quoting from it that it became this big definitive thing as I saw it. Imagine if Jason Mamoa came out with a movie right now called "The Murderer." Which then turned out to be surprisingly watchable. Which then started being heavily referenced by other movies and on talk shows and presidential speeches and then suddenly it would be this thing that demanded to be studied. And then when you study it you see how DAMN tight of a story and ingenious the whole thing is. Anyway it was this kind of this reverse thing for me.

When T2 came out obviously it was a major phenomenon and I was blown away and saw it over and over in the theater and couldn't get enough of it. Much more "awesome" than the slow burn of my T1 appreciation.

I had typed out a big thing but deleted it. I forgot this is a Prometheus thread.

Oh good. We were in store for pages and pages of new Prometheus 2 news and I'm glad you didn't derail that.

 

[a-dev]

Re: Prometheus Sequel (March 2016)

Well obviously the effects are better. Acting? 'bout the same. Soundtrack...dunno. I love the T1 version of the main theme and also the piece that plays everytime you see the T-800.

 

[DiFabio]

Re: Prometheus Sequel (March 2016)

Well obviously the effects are better. Acting? 'bout the same. Soundtrack...dunno. I love the T1 version of the main theme and also the piece that plays everytime you see the T-800.

Don't be coy. I know your love for the T2 soundtrack quite well.

T1 is a kid playing funky beats on his dad's broken piano in the basement while T2 is a class act.

 

[Khev]

Re: Prometheus Sequel (March 2016)

I'll give T2 this:

In this post-1997 era of sequels/prequels where CG was introduced to series' in ways or quantity that it didn't exist before (Star Wars, The Hobbit, A:Res, etc.) I've never seen ANYONE complain about the T-1000 being out of place in T2. Not once. It's the only sequel I can think of that introduced CGI that was absent from previous films in the series that people haven't complained about.

I'm sure part of it has to do with the fact that CGI was about the coolest thing ever in the early 90's and didn't have any stigmas against it brought on by the SW:SE's and so forth but still, pretty impressive that no one even in retrospect seems to have an issue with the T-1000's morphing abilities.

 

[DiFabio]

Re: Prometheus Sequel (March 2016)

I think we can all agree that when choosing between T1 and T2 it really is a case of Sophie's choice.

The same can't be said about the other two, soon to be three. Da hell wit dem.

 

[Khev]

Re: Prometheus Sequel (March 2016)

I think we can all agree that when choosing between T1 and T2 it really is a case of Sophie's choice.

Yep, just like The Hobbit and LOTR.

 

[a-dev]

Re: Prometheus Sequel (March 2016)

Don't be coy. I know your love for the T2 soundtrack quite well.

T1 is a kid playing funky beats on his dad's broken piano in the basement while T2 is a class act.

They are both great scores for a hardcore fan of the movies but I would recommend neither as listening material to even a casual fan. They fit their respective movies very well but isolated from the movie they are both noise. I happen to like this noise for the most part though because I'm playing the movies in my head while I listen to them. Really annoys the **** out of me that they never released the complete T2 score.

I'll give T2 this:

In this post-1997 era of sequels/prequels where CG was introduced to series' in ways or quantity that it didn't exist before (Star Wars, The Hobbit, A:Res, etc.) I've never seen ANYONE complain about the T-1000 being out of place in T2. Not once. It's the only sequel I can think of that introduced CGI that was absent from previous films in the series that people haven't complained about.

I'm sure part of it has to do with the fact that CGI was about the coolest thing ever in the early 90's and didn't have any stigmas against it brought on by the SW:SE's and so forth but still, pretty impressive that no one even in retrospect seems to have an issue with the T-1000's morphing abilities.

I think there's a bias in play there though. When you have a good film you won't really notice or care if some CGI is weak. I think some of the T-1000 CGI could probably be done better now, the bullet hits for example. In the Galleria scene I think they look a bit dated for example.



^that would look better if done today.

What I miss though is the days when they actually built real ****ing Endoskeleton's, be they full size or the stop-motion miniatures that were seen walking in the background of the T2 future war. In T3, even though they weren't doing anything particularly complex, all I could think about that endo-army - ****ing CGI. Not a single one is real and if any of them were going to be real it would have been the one that the camera zooms in on, the one who breaks the 4th wall with his tiny little baby teeth - and he was clearly CG.

 

[Xenoburger_]

Re: Prometheus Sequel (March 2016)

The Hobbit trilogy sucked, Terminator 2 was good but Terminator was far superior, and Prometheus is better than all that shat.

K, we're done here.

 

[a-dev]

Re: Prometheus Sequel (March 2016)

I had typed out a big thing but deleted it. I forgot this is a Prometheus thread.

Oh good. We were in store for pages and pages of new Prometheus 2 news and I'm glad you didn't derail that.

Yeah so much for that.

 

[DiFabio]

Re: Prometheus Sequel (March 2016)

Yep, just like The Hobbit and LOTR.

Deep down I know you love LOTR way more. Ain't no way that's a Sophie's choice. You'd throw out the Hobbit and embrace LOTR with a swiftness.

Dat Fellowship bro. I just watched it again the other night and got major feels.

 

[Shawpaw]

Re: Prometheus Sequel (March 2016)

Has Fass signed on for the sequel as well? Haven't been paying attention much. Loved the first one.