Psychophysiological Insomnia

[Lejuan]

I've tried meditation, but never got through the 'this is boring my tits off' stage.

 

[devilof76]

I never meditated. I was never really relaxed either. I was just invincibly happy. Like I was permanently 3 years old.

Maybe I just got old.

 

[xjamiex]

I've tried meditation, but never got through the 'this is boring my tits off' stage.

It certainly does require a lot of focus and dedication to reach the frame of mind that you want to have but it's absolutely worth it. I incorporate a lot of yoga into my workout routines on certain days and I meditate after just because it's so relaxing. I sleep like a baby after those days.

 

[Lejuan]

I never meditated. I was never really relaxed either. I was just invincibly happy. Like I was permanently 3 years old.

Maybe I just got old.

Opposite with me. Mopey glass-half-empty SoB til I reached 30.

Other thing that's happened since I stopped a daily pot habit is that while I wake up with a clear head, the dreams... the dreams. It's like every night I'm living through a damned action movie. But not a very exciting one.

It certainly does require a lot of focus and dedication to reach the frame of mind that you want to have but it's absolutely worth it. I incorporate a lot of yoga into my workout routines on certain days and I meditate after just because it's so relaxing. I sleep like a baby after those days.

I think it'll be easier to try again when I'm a bit older and the kids are older. It's like I close my eyes, try to observe my thoughts, and every one of them is about paying the school fees or taking out the trash.

 

[xjamiex]

Opposite with me. Mopey glass-half-empty SoB til I reached 30.

Other thing that's happened since I stopped a daily pot habit is that while I wake up with a clear head, the dreams... the dreams. It's like every night I'm living through a damned action movie. But not a very exciting one.



I think it'll be easier to try again when I'm a bit older and the kids are older. It's like I close my eyes, try to observe my thoughts, and every one of them is about paying the school fees or taking out the trash.

Aw yea I don't blame you at all then my friend. One day at a time

 

[crows]

Seriously though, I used to have trouble going to sleep. Now, I don't lay down until I'm tired and ready to conk out. So, I usually lay in bed awake a maximum of 5 minutes. My wife lays in bed for a couple of hours at night, and can never fall asleep when she wants to.

premature Sleepiness

Have you ever tried listening to white noise while trying to go to sleep?

Coincidentally I was chatting with a colleague just yesterday about sleep when he brought this up... a device that generates white noise. He said it was similar to the sound a bathroom extraction fan makes but less invasive. He swears by it, he even got one for his kid.

You can accomplish the same thing by tuning in some static on the radio. There's also a website https://simplynoise.com/ that I've used to tune out rude people who babbling on the phone around me.

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yeah No F___ing Likely

 

[devilof76]

Opposite with me. Mopey glass-half-empty SoB til I reached 30.

I had more than my fair share of problems, but my underlying mental state was always aggressively optimistic. I didn't change until people started dying on a regular basis. All of a sudden, the immediate moment was impossible to concentrate on, whereas before, it was effortless.

 

[furystorm]

Zen is about the moment and impermanence, that and saving all sentient beings from suffering. Not too much to ask. Trust me, you really can get past the "bills, problems" mindset quickly.

I've had amazing experiences just sitting and walking Zen, and try to incorporate it into every moment of my life. Sitting at the center, the door open, birds chirping, being in just that moment. Amazing.

When thirsty, drink. When hungry, eat. When tired, sleep!

 

[devilof76]

Minutiae like bills, etc. doesn't get in my way. It's something bigger.

 

[furystorm]

I didn't change until people started dying on a regular basis. All of a sudden, the immediate moment was impossible to concentrate on, whereas before, it was effortless.

I'm working in Radiation Therapy now, well studying it and in clinic at least. That and the Zen has really led me to the moment. This is absolutely the only thing we have. Right here and now.

 

[Lejuan]

I had more than my fair share of problems, but my underlying mental state was always aggressively optimistic. I didn't change until people started dying on a regular basis. All of a sudden, the immediate moment was impossible to concentrate on, whereas before, it was effortless.

A couple of people close to me are close to the end. I find having my kids constantly close to my thoughts helps deal with existentialist angst and maintaining presence. It'd be a similar thing with your nieces - have them in your head and I'm guessing they do a good job of keeping away the boogie men.

 

[devilof76]

This is absolutely the only thing we have. Right here and now.

I know. I'm just not as big a fan of right here and now as I used to be.

 

[crows]

I always have to sleep with a fan, I hate sleeping in silence

I do this as well, the noise of the fan is quiet enough to let you sleep and you are getting nice air as well,
I rather use the fan than a ghost noise machine!

 

[furystorm]

I dig you more every day devil.

 

[furystorm]

I do this as well, the noise of the fan is quiet enough to let you sleep and you are getting nice air as well,
I rather use the fan than a ghost noise machine!

Google Korean fan death.

 

[devilof76]

I dig you more every day devil.

A couple of people close to me are close to the end. I find having my kids constantly close to my thoughts helps deal with existentialist angst and maintaining presence. It'd be a similar thing with your nieces - have them in your head and I'm guessing they do a good job of keeping away the boogie men.

The little one helps a lot. She's a good role model. The older one seems to have the same problem I do.

 

[jungle jom]

I do this as well, the noise of the fan is quiet enough to let you sleep and you are getting nice air as well,
I rather use the fan than a ghost noise machine!

I have to say that I sleep with the sound of a fan as well.

 

[crows]

Google Korean fan death.

 

[Lejuan]

The little one helps a lot. She's a good role model. The older one seems to have the same problem I do.

they start young these days. My older one has been filled with angst since she was very young. It's a daily thing for us to have her look to the positives. The younger one though is a bundle of positivity. You'd want to bottle whatever she's got going on there. I've realised that there's only so much as a parent you can take the blame or credit for.

xjamiex and furystorm have me thinking that maybe introducing the older one to meditation might be worth a shot.

 

[furystorm]

It's calmed and centered me quite a bit. We're all works in progress, but I'm happy with my progress and direction.

Now if only I could find time to actually do it.

School and work, both full time, eat up a lot of calendar real estate.