QMX Star Trek General discussion thread

[jal76]

Because

WE LOVE STAR TREK

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And to suggest that the line was ?Fubar? all along is an idiotic and garbage take...the line was excellent...that?s why people who are passionate about Star Trek and have an appreciation and understanding of 1/6 scale action figures are so disappointed that QMx let everyone down by not allowing this excellent and definitely not ?Fubar? line of action figures continue.

 

[NCC-1701 no bloody ABCorD]

Because

WE LOVE STAR TREK

Well,

I LOVE STAR TREK, TOO.

TOS, anyway.

That’s EXACTLY why this whole fiasco is so frustrating. And if I didn’t love TOS so much then I wouldn’t give a rat’s behind about the disappointments of these figs and of QMx. But I won’t try to prop up a dead body and pretend it’s gonna talk or even get up and do a little jig.

And no, the line has NOT been excellent. It could have and should have been considerably better. It has been overall mediocre, with some good points and some bad points (the bodies suck). For some, that may be good enough. To each his own. But for me, the whole scene has indeed been proven to be FUBAR. The only piece I am keeping is the chair.

 

[Pauln6a]

For the price, the line was excellent. The Picard staining was an unfortunate Iive and learn moment that probably led to a reduction in popularity, which in turn might have led to a wobble in confidence in the line. Despite that, demand was fairly steady. I just think they needed to over produce Kirk, Spock, and McCoy and re- release some every time a lower tier character was released and that would have buoyed interest in the new figure as well.

 

[Praetor]

Opinion piece:Lets address the elephant in the room.
Mr Nanjin Tam may have overeached himself,and also contradicts himself in threads here.
Everything seems to be QMX fault yet Mr Tam regularly trots out that he wanted to take over part of production, from sculpts to bodies etc in the hunt for savings.
Then when that may have put the factories noses out of joint he has to get production going again in house, he says he heroicly gave painting responsibilites etc to what he called disableds,a tad incensitive .

He then said his strategy was to limit Sulu production to get interest goung in one breath, then says in the other that it wasnt his fault there werent enough Sulus.

Which is it,sometimes his explanations and threads make no sense and seem a little incoherant.

You can imagine a buisness being a tad annoyed that a production employee may have decided to try and go outside their already agreed production facilities and try and source elsewhere in a bid to cement themselves as a New kid on the block, which unfortunately didnt pay off.

It seems there may have been mistakes made on both sides and i can see both sides, but lets not forget Mr Tam was the production lead and the buck unfortunately rests there.

Dreams and realities blur and over eager or over zealous attempts to fulfill them with your own ego outstripping the harsh realities of the buisness practices of certain companies has consequences.
Then personal egos get bruised, and the reality that you are a small fish in a big pond dawn on you.

Valiant effort but factories and companies with more bankable franchises to their name were bound to win and i would imagine QMX are probably having to build new relationships within the 1/6th manufacturing community to even begin production again.
But thats just an opinion and Iam in no way a clairvoyant of what actually happened and feel free to berate me for it or indeed put me straight and in my place.

 

[Matner77]

Can't see fault in Nanjin methods. It isn't just 1/6th Trek that has crashed, but Supernatural, Firefly & Princess Bride have all failed to have a variable range. Think Qmx have failed in the 1/6th market

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[Praetor]

Can't see fault in Nanjin methods. It isn't just 1/6th Trek that has crashed, but Supernatural, Firefly & Princess Bride have all failed to have a variable range. Think Qmx have failed in the 1/6th market

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From what i Gather he had responsibilty for other 1/6 not just star trek, as he alluded to himself, IT and the nun to mention but two.And he openly stated he got the Malcolm Reynolds sculpt sorted for production.

You never know his Polaris company trademark may be ready at one point to bid for rights to Star trek,and then he would have sole freedom to manage it and his company, how he likes. And all power to his elbow if he does.

 

[gin007]

There's always two sides to every story, and we have part of one side. Nanjin's first language isn't English, so I'm certainly not inclined to nitpick his use of words, nor do I think any of us want a blow-by-blow of what happened between him and QMx.

The fact is, Nanjin did custom Star Trek TWoK figures that got QMx interested enough to do the Star Trek line in the first place. I greatly admire his dedication and passion for 1/6 Trek, and any 1/6 trek you have seen or have in you hand is likely due to him.

He and QMx have been separated for almost a year. The last time we saw production of QMx ST figures was just before his departure almost a year ago. The other 1/6 lines at QMx have fallen apart.

You can criticize Nanjin if you want, but he's the biggest advocate on here for 1/6 Trek and he has a track record to back it up. Did he make mistakes? Yes, of course, but frankly I'd rather encourage his vision and his passion, rather than seeing him get criticized for trying to get 1/6 trek produced at a company that has proved that they care more for qfigs than 1/6 collectors. Besides, he's clearly as frustrated as we are that everyone hasn't gotten their figures.

I thank Nanjin for the work he has done and I appreciate his willingness to come on the boards and give his perspective, especially when there are several people on this thread who seem to just enjoy trolling products he put a ton of time and dedication into. ( That is, in general, and not directed at the OP. )

I agree you can't have it both ways and the claims about trying new small-sized production models to meet demand seem to be at odds with the small amount produced for the outstanding POs, but Nanjin said they were meant to be rolling small batches, and if QMx management decided not to continue the batches after the first one was distributed, then that's hardly his fault. It neither gave him a definitive answer on whether that kind of production would work or fulfilled the preorders.

Having said that, I'm not sure where trying to decipher the ins and outs of he said/she said gets us, other than pissing off the biggest advocate for 1/6 trek. As for me, I have great figs, no complaints on the TOS that was produced. I wish there were more, and I hope Nanjin is able to secure the license one day. How feasible that is, i don't know. Licenses are not cheap and you need a company with cash to attract a big name franchise license. And let's not forget, no matter what QMx does or doesn't do with the license, it is theirs under a contract until the contract expires. ViacomCBS would be in breach and subject to monetary damages if they pulled the license prematurely. So some of these ideas are nice but not very realistic to viably get a major franchise license.

Anyway, I also hope Polaris is able to start selling its bodies. The 1/6 market could use some realistic proportion bodies.







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[jal76]

I don?t agree that the buck stops with the Production Lead either.
If the company decides to cut off funds and holds the license what is the Lead supposed to do?
That?s like blaming a Film Director for having the plugged pulled on his movie because the studio suddenly gets cold feet about the agreed upon budget.
Not the Director?s fault...you would blame the Studio for not understanding what they were committing to before they began the venture.

 

[Praetor]

There's always two sides to every story, and we have part of one side. Nanjin's first language isn't English, so I'm certainly not inclined to nitpick his use of words, nor do I think any of us want a blow-by-blow of what happened between him and QMx.

The fact is, Nanjin did custom Star Trek TWoK figures that got QMx interested enough to do the Star Trek line in the first place. I greatly admire his dedication and passion for 1/6 Trek, and any 1/6 trek you have seen or have in you hand is likely due to him.

He and QMx have been separated for almost a year. The last time we saw production of QMx ST figures was just before his departure almost a year ago. The other 1/6 lines at QMx have fell apart.

You can criticize Nanjin if you want, but he's the biggest advocate on here for 1/6 Trek and he has a track record to back it up. Did he make mistakes? Yes, of course, but frankly I'd rather encourage his vision and his passion, rather than seeing him get criticized for trying to get 1/6 trek produced at a company that has proved that they care more for qfigs than 1/6 collectors. Besides, he's clearly as frustrated as we are that everyone hasn't gotten their figures.

I thank Nanjin for the work he has done and I appreciate his willingness to come on the boards and give his perspective, especially when there are several people on this thread who seem to just enjoy trolling products he put a ton of time and dedication into. ( That is, in general, and not directed at the OP. )

I agree you can't have it both ways and the claims about trying new small-sized production models to meet demand seem to be at odds with the small amount produced for the outstanding POs, but Nanjin said they were meant to be rolling small batches, and if QMx management decided not to continue the batches after the first one was distributed, then that's hardly his fault. It neither gave him a definitive answer on whether that kind of production would work or fulfilled the preorders.

Having said that, I'm not sure where trying to decipher the ins and outs of he said/she said gets us, other than pissing off the biggest advocate for 1/6 trek. As for me, I have great figs, no complaints on the TOS that was produced. I wish there were more, and I hope Nanjin is able to secure the license one day. How feasible that is, i don't know. Licenses are not cheap and you need a company with cash to attract a big name franchise license. And let's not forget, no matter what QMx does or doesn't do with the license, it is theirs under a contract until the contract expires. ViacomCBS would be in breach and subject to monetary damages if they pulled the license prematurely. So some of these ideas are nice but not very realistic to viably get a major franchise license.

Anyway, I also hope Polaris is able to start selling its bodies. The 1/6 market could use some realistic proportion bodies.







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I myself love the product he did manage to get out.

However criticism can lead to self reflection and growth within some, and if it pisses advocates of star trek off so be it, but again I say numeroys mistakes were made pre and post production, and to blindly believe that Mr Tam is above criticism or reproach doesnt help growth but reinforces egos that may need a little reduction in size to progress in future.

But hey were all entitled to our differing opinions and I respect your take and your loyalty,refreshing in these strange times and heartwarming, and I thank you for your point of view.(and this is meant sincerely not sarcastically)

 

[FlyAndFight]

Yeah, I dismiss your notion that both sides are to blame equally. I've got no dog in this fight but I'll fully take Nanjin's side of the story when it comes to the 1/6 Star Trek figure line. He has been more than upfront and open from the get-go and actually had to cut back on sharing information with us, the customers/fans of the line. It's not necessarily loyalty but track record.

Meanwhile, QMX continues to state that Sulu and Scotty will eventually be released by next year...

 

[Praetor]

Yeah, I dismiss your notion that both sides are to blame equally. I've got no dog in this fight but I'll fully take Nanjin's side of the story when it comes to the 1/6 Star Trek figure line. He has been more than upfront and open from the get-go and actually had to cut back on sharing information with us, the customers/fans of the line. It's not necessarily loyalty but track record.

Meanwhile, QMX continues to state that Sulu and Scotty will eventually be released by next year...

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Dismiss...why because you believe Mr Tam because he brought you what you wanted, and is therefore above reproach. Odd but again your view and you entitled to it.
But I didnt say they were equally to blame I said there was blame on both sides and for me to say otherwise would be a tad biased or partisan,as I too have no dogs in the race.

And track record, was a few figures of good quality, yet problems with the Picard staining and the Sulu chin chipping and the alleged recall of the scotty figures for more quality control issues,which Mr Tam said he was in charge of QC and had already declined some sculpt paint apps as below par and binned them.
And the poor battery issues with the chair, all of which show there were problems that Mr Tam was in control of, as he was on the ground in China /hongkong.

These problems had an impact on the Picard sales directly and added extra cost to QMX re replacement heads.

And we have Mr Tams view but nothing from QMX, who I would think have seen the critiscism of them, but elect not to weigh in or contradict anything so we dont have any opposing view, so forgive me if I reserve the right to view things with a questioning stance.

Again I admire your loyalty to someone you clearly have trust and faith in, and applaud it.I just have a less rosey picture sorry.

 

[NCC-1701 no bloody ABCorD]

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Dismiss...why because you believe Mr Tam because he brought you what you wanted, and is therefore above reproach. Odd but again your view and you entitled to it.
But I didnt say they were equally to blame I said there was blame on both sides and for me to say otherwise would be a tad non partisan,as I too have no dogs in the race.

And track record, was a few figures of good quality, yet problems with the Picard staining and the Sulu chin chipping and the alleged recall of the scotty figures for more quality control issues,which Mr Tam said he was in charge of QC and had already declined some sculpt paint apps as below par and binned them.
And the poor battery issues with the chair, all of which show there were problems that Mr Tam was in control of, as he was on the ground in China /hongkong.

These problems had an impact on the Picard sales directly and added extra cost to QMX re replacement heads.

And we have Mr Tams view but nothing from QMX, who I would think have seen the critiscism of them, but elect not to weigh in or contradict anything so we dont have any opposing view, so forgive me if I reserve the right to view things with a questioning stance.

Again I admire your loyalty to someone you clearly have trust and faith in, and applaud it.I just have a less rosey picture sorry.

Exactly. Well said. The problem with this thread has been boldly addressed, thank you! Now watch out, Praetor, you have “insulted” someone’s god. You have just hung a target on your back... and your front; a wearable sandwich sign of sorts.

 

[Praetor]

Exactly. Well said. The problem with this thread has finally been addressed, thank you!

Now watch out, Praetor, you have “insulted” someone’s god. You have just hung a target on your back... and your front; a wearable sandwich sign of sorts.

Im open to anyones views, be they harsh or targeted,as long as they respect my view.

Targets cant always be hit and I have yet to see anyone change my mind as yet to my stance, and I dont tolerate threats or overt hostility if it should come my way as a result of my view.

I try to be polite in my posts and I would expect no less from anyone who has a different stance.

 

[FlyAndFight]

I honestly respect your opinion and thoughts on the subject.

Personally, I've followed Nanjin's projects from years ago, when they were just personal custom figure projects. I've followed his move into the venture with QMX and the eventual falling out between the two.

There were obviously some initial hiccups with some of the figures but each was taken as a learning experience and he built upon those for the next figure. He has been very upfront with those as well, from the beginning.

I may be mistaken but I believe that Nanjin was also involved with the Firefly Malcolm Reynolds figure and was a big part of including a much better painted sculpt at no extra cost to the customers.

His passion for Star Trek led him to put his own money into the venture, bring investors to the table only to be excluded from the discussions.

Throw in the fact that he was hiring special needs employees to work in the factory and that in itself is commendable.

In the end, you can choose to take his words at face value or not. I've found no reason to do otherwise.

 

[Praetor]

I honestly respect your opinion and thoughts on the subject.

Personally, I've followed Nanjin's projects from years ago, when they were just personal custom figure projects. I've followed his move into the venture with QMX and the eventual falling out between the two.

There were obviously some initial hiccups with some of the figures but each was taken as a learning experience and he built upon those for the next figure. He has been very upfront with those as well, from the beginning.

I may be mistaken but I believe that Nanjin was also involved with the Firefly Malcolm Reynolds figure and was a big part of including a much better painted sculpt at no extra cost to the customers.

His passion for Star Trek led him to put his own money into the venture, bring investors to the table only to be excluded from the discussions.

Throw in the fact that he was hiring special needs employees to work in the factory and that in itself is commendable.

In the end, you can choose to take his words at face value or not. I've found no reason to do otherwise.

Thank you ,I respect your view too its just I see from his posts from past forum threads that he may have cheesed off some of the factories.


And I assumed he had had to employ Differently abled and non painting experienced workers to assist because the professional artists wouldnt work or couldnt work for him and his deadlines.

So as you may appreciate, although the costs of the figures were lower than say Hot Toys they were still expensive and you would expect the paint apps to be done by professionals and to a high standard.

And unfortunately i know 3 people who bought the reissued spock and Kirk and they had glitter type paint on the faces instead of the freckled appearance they should have been.

So again the QC suffered because the professional artists werent sourced, but at least they tried and they certainly didnt look totally hashed,but not worth the cost.

And the Body for Kirk reissue was way off unfortunately,even Mr Tam alluded to that fact saying that body wasnt designed for Kirk.
So unfortunately his swan song ended up looking rushed and cheaper,but again only in my opinion.

Im sure there would be a vast amount of others who think differently to me and reflect your views and thats fine with me too.

 

[Koloth]

Hallelujah!

Nanjin promised to sell his slim bodies for McCoy the after he'd left QMx, that was quite a couple of month ago, and now upon a reminder he tells us that he won't...

As a businessman that he is he may be entitled to change his mind that way, but, folks, haven't you noticed yet that he ignores any helping hand reached out to him? He doesn't seem to need any of the amateur collectors' well-meant advice, he's just doing his own thing.

 

[Bravomite]

Before there is a pile on, just remember that without Nanjin no one would have 1/6 Trek figures.

Hot Toys are the market leader and have a lot more pull with factories than any of the other 1/6 companies so no doubt their paint will be the best. That said, the QMX trek original Kirk and Spock were painted a lot better than most of their other competitors (with the exception of Hot Toys) at the time of their release.

 

[jal76]

I love that so many people on here seem to think that Nanjin owes them something just because they have purchased one or two QMx figures...not sure why people think that way...
Why do some people think that he should take their advice? What if their advice is garbage?
He can sell slim bodies or not sell slim bodies or do whatever he wants...just like the rest of us...

 

[Stryker2011]

I love that so many people on here seem to think that Nanjin owes them something just because they have purchased one or two QMx figures...not sure why people think that way...
Why do some people think that he should take their advice? What if their advice is garbage?
He can sell slim bodies or not sell slim bodies or do whatever he wants...just like the rest of us...

Agreed. Not to mention it?s not up to him to fulfill orders from QMX, it?s QMX?s job to do that. If you have a problem getting orders fulfilled, take it up with them. There?s really no point piling on Nanjin; the man has lost a lot of his own money on this venture.

 

[NCC-1701 no bloody ABCorD]

I love that so many people on here seem to think that Nanjin owes them something just because they have purchased one or two QMx figures...not sure why people think that way...
Why do some people think that he should take their advice? What if their advice is garbage?

I don’t think anybody owes me squat. Not QMx, not Mr. Tam! I don’t know what you’re going on about and frankly I don’t much care. So you can love or hate whatever you assume people seem to think. And you can genuflect to anyone and anything you want. And you can try to suggest people ought to think any certain way, and good luck with that.

People who like these 1/6 figures will buy them, and many will pay through the nose for a McCoy with a Jean-Claude Van Damme body or a Kirk with a Don Knots body. And many folks will curse their luck or QMx for whatever they could not possess. Personally, I don’t find these figures do justice to the Star Trek TOS that I so love. And I am not afraid to say so. I will continue to call out anybody who tries to stifle my opinion, Archie. And I will continue to cherish the best sci-fi series in the history of the genre without these toys.