Quantum Of Solace

[CelticPredator]

Its at the end of the film...I dont like that idea either...

CR's was brilliant...for that one movie...

 

[CelticPredator]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph0XVIFWJbQ

Craig's Gunbarrel.

 

[cerealkeller]

The traditional Bond beginning starts after the car chase. I've never seen one of the Bourne films yet. Keep meaning to, just haven't gotten around to it yet.

 

[CelticPredator]

We're talking about the Gunbarrel.

 

[a-dev]

Didn't CR have the gunbarrel intro at the start like every other bond?

 

[CelticPredator]

No. It was after the pre credit scene which led into the main titles. Really brilliant. Here?Not so much IMO.

 

[jungle jom]

Started to watch an early pirate of this but the quality was pretty awful so I stopped and to date haven't seen the film but tell me - did my eyes deceive me or did this film go straight from studio logos into a car chase - entirely skipping the customary and IMO essential Bond gunsight intro? Seriously I know they want to take bond in bold new directions but why call it bond if you're going to strip away everything people expect of a bond film? Same with the lack of bond theme until the end credits (as someone else pointed out here) - I thought the idea of CR (which I loved) was to 'establish' bond at the end of which the bond theme really kicked in, signifying that bond was back.

Exactly Right!!!!!!!!!

 

[JediMike71]

Yeah, I really missed the gunbarrel intro at the beginning of both CR and QOS. It was good to see it at least at the start of the credits for QOS, but it should have been where it's always been. I love the Bond them, and it should have been playing over the gunbarrel intro. Sure let Bond now go into a bold new "fronteir", but don't strip away everything we all know and love.

 

[CelticPredator]

I could careless if he doesnt say "Bond...James Bond" or get a martini, or any of that crap....but the Barrel is scared. CR took it out, and thats fine...but I QOS should've. But they did do a barrel...so im sure we'll see it in the next one.

 

[DarkArtist81]

I really don't mind the change... It's really minor to me... At least they were in there in some fashion, that's all that really matters to me.

 

[bidge1000]

just saw this, thought it was excellent. I don't think it should be seen as a standalone movie. The events happen one hour after the end of Casino Royale, I see this as a continuation and the two stories making one big film.

The end is inconclusive, the search continues. Having not ever been a big bond fan, I cannot wait to see more now!

PS,

this was my first time ever seeing a Bond movie in the cinema, have just not been a big fan until the Reboot!


D

 

[Krypto]

The gun barrel should be at the start of the next film, like the films of old. The point is that after this film, after he's got he's matured and become wore from battle and loved and lost, he's the Bond we know. Some people thought that he was that way after the end of Casino Royale, but they weren't giving the character enough credit, he has more depth than that with the way Craig plays him.

 

[a-dev]

Some of the messing around and omitting of bond conventions seems pretty needless. Without those bond conventions (the gun barrell, the theme, bond..james bond etc) its all too easy to call these films Bourne rip-offs. After the excesses of Die another Die I guess they're worried about continuing the pattern of 'low key' bond progressing up to ridiculously OTT bond but come on - surely its possible to keep the 'realism' and hard edge of CR while maintaining recogniseabilty. Surely it wouldn't have killed them to keep the gun barrell intro in the right place and have bond say something bond-esque at least once (again though, haven't yet seen QoS, I'm just going on negative reviews). And I do think the time for holding back on the bond theme had already passed. Fair enough to keep the audience waiting in Casino Royale but when the theme came on at Bonds appearance with the machine gun at the end of that film - I sort of took that to be the indicator that Bond had been established as Bond and thereafter that tune would appear at appropriate times as normal in the next film. Otherwise why play the tune at all during the running time of CR, end credits included?

 

[bagelsncheesey]

Fantastic movie, from start to finish. I think it was a perfect bridge movie from Casino Royale. It will be cool to watch them back to back when this comes out on Blu.

 

[choopie]

Saw it over the weekend and enjoyed it. Nice continuation from Casino Royale, but I think CR was 100 times better in story line and action sequences. Now that Bond has gotten his revenge and has come to terms with his lost love, now it's time to shape him into a more mature, refined, less-reckless Bond. I really like the raw and gritty aspect of his character, but to carry that from one movie to the next will get old very fast. I expect the next film to feel more "Bond."

 

[Krypto]

I loved many of the nods to films past in Quantum. My favorite of which was the opening, which reminded me of On Her Majesty's Secret Service, showing Bond and the Aston Martin in close-ups revealing parts of his face and cross-cutting his face with the car racing down a curvy road. And the nod to Spy Who Loved Me with Bond throwing the bodyguard off the roof.

And the Bond theme is in the score from time to time. It's kind of buried in there, but it's there. Listen closely. I think they're holding the theme back because once that theme comes on full-blast during an action sequence, it kind of derails the tension and since they're going for a more hard-edged Bond and more tension filled action sequences based in reality, the theme is sort of unnecessary in some respects.

 

[The Mike]

I too thought that the film was all over the place. As a lot of the critics have noted it seemed that they were making a Bourne movie and not a Bond.

I always laugh at these kind of critic comments. Bourne was touted as "Bond for the 21st Century" from the beginning even by Damon during Press Junkets. It was supposed to be more modern, realistic take on the spy movie which is Bond. Then with Casino Royale, Bond was rebooted and made more realistic, more managable and now its the Bourne rip off?

Bourne was Bond without the tuxedos, Q, women and charming style. Craig's Bond is Bourne, the same "blunt object" but with women and style showing through. I like that better seeing that while Bond had to become refined and mature that the style, the thing that made him Bond is natural and not learned. What I also like is that its a job not some weird mental psychobrainwash that makes him a killing machine.

I loved this film but will admit I liked Casino Royale more. Bond has a weird tie to multiple generations, the guy behind complained after the movie during the credits that it was the "Worst Bond Film Ever" and that he missed Roger Moore. While for me there WAS NO BOND BEFORE CRAIG. I like Craig's Bond even more than Connery. Not to mention the movie was left open-ended as well as completing the previous storyline which made me wish the 3rd film was already done. That is the sign of a good movie IMHO, leaving you wanting more.

I've read this was supposed to be signed for a trilogy only. I hope we get at least twice that from Craig before all is said and done.

 

[Krypto]

Bourne can not compete with Bond for one very simple reason - he's not a spy. Period. And he doesn't have any depth of character. He's just a man on the run. The Bourne films have more in common with The Fugitive than the Bond films. And to say Bond ripped off Bourne stylistically is silly. I guess the people who say such things haven't seen From Russia with Love or On Her Majesty's Secret Service. Bond was doing the whole "realistic" thing with real stunts and hard-hitting fights decades before Bourne.

 

[JediMike71]

There's no way that Bond is "ripping off" the Bourne movies! Don't you realize that the first James Bond movie was in the early 1960s? Plus, Ian Fleming wrote the books years before Dr. No was released! The Jason Bourne movies came out in the 1990s. Not the 1960s. Bond was before Bourne. Some people seem to throw in Bourne comparing it now to almost every single action movie coming out now. Sure, the Bourne trilogy was great. But it will NEVER be better than Bond. At least to me.

 

[scubasteve]

So, let's get this straight, it was

Spoiler

Vesper who told Quantum that Bond knew Le Chiffre's "tell" and not Mathis?