turbo.VS.ozone
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Not taking anything away from Yunsil's, but sombody close to Kato please convince him to do the coat. Maybe even try his hand at the vest.
[Rainman Artwork]The Butcher "Bill 2nd"
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The vest is so small the only way it can even be done is on printed material, which lacks the depth it should, especially with something so intricate as the vest pattern. I think a Kato vest would turn out exactly the same.
Agreed with Rdeezy,
Kato and I did a project together with printed material. The pattern was not nearly as detailed and intricate once printed.
Rainmans is as good as it's gonna get and I think it looks fine. And aside from the jacket having a little too much magenta in the tone and could be a tad warmer in tone I think it looks great. A 10 second dip in yellow rit dye would get it perfectly tinted but I'm not gonna mess with altering my figure. And to be honest in other scenes the coat looks more cool. I think the color is pretty close.
For the record though I think the hat is a perfect color as is.
Unless you are looking at straight props it's impossible to accurately say that one thing is more or less red or brown. Scorsese colored the film with sepia and warm tints in those scenes to get the historical effect. You're left with a subjective Han Solo blue or brown coat type situation.
Kato and I did a project together with printed material. The pattern was not nearly as detailed and intricate once printed.
Rainmans is as good as it's gonna get and I think it looks fine. And aside from the jacket having a little too much magenta in the tone and could be a tad warmer in tone I think it looks great. A 10 second dip in yellow rit dye would get it perfectly tinted but I'm not gonna mess with altering my figure. And to be honest in other scenes the coat looks more cool. I think the color is pretty close.
For the record though I think the hat is a perfect color as is.
Unless you are looking at straight props it's impossible to accurately say that one thing is more or less red or brown. Scorsese colored the film with sepia and warm tints in those scenes to get the historical effect. You're left with a subjective Han Solo blue or brown coat type situation.
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turbo.VS.ozone
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I can see your point but even comparing it to the props the colors or fabric don't quite match up. I was surprised to see that the same material for the wonka jacket was used for Bill V2. I think a better material could have been sourced, not all materials are easy to work with in this scale i'd imagine but I'm pretty sure somthing better was possible fabric and color wise.
The fit is amazing, but the color is off for me and the fabric makes the jacket more of a velour quality, a fleece making it look pratically like a bathrobe. If you run your finger against the material it will leave a streak just like a fleece. Bills coat had a sheen to it and in my head I'm trying to work out what type of fabric that would be because than I could run down to the Garment District and get a proper swatch of the material.
Take this for example; certainly not Rainman quality, the design and fit of the coat are wrong but the material is more in line with what was represented on screen. Had the material been properly sourced I think a better overcoat would have been the result for Bill v2.
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Right back atcha' Lakhota 
I know I'm a picky guy but where credit is due it should be given, Robbie was right when he said the original was dethroned with this release and we should always maintain a healthy realistic approach to the pros and cons with technique and material when working with this scale.
Looking back at previous Rainman releases which cost the same as the current ones and are full of high inaccuracies so much that the recent iminime releases at lower cost provides more accuracies. I'm always for improvement but it's easy to take for granted how far we've come.
As for the material I can see what turbo is saying in regards to the suede like behaviour of the coat but the material allows the coat to maintain a nice slim fitted look and hang naturally. A thicker material would not behave as nicely.
As for the color here's a prop shot where it looks pretty damn close and keep in mind this exhibit is clearly lit under tungsten lighting which warms everything up and we are still looking at a cool red color.
As far as I'm concerned we paid the premium for this release and got a premium product for it. Short of annoying things like the knives not fitting in the sheaths and the fragile hat not fitting securely on his head I can't say that this set deserves any major criticism.
I know I'm a picky guy but where credit is due it should be given, Robbie was right when he said the original was dethroned with this release and we should always maintain a healthy realistic approach to the pros and cons with technique and material when working with this scale.
Looking back at previous Rainman releases which cost the same as the current ones and are full of high inaccuracies so much that the recent iminime releases at lower cost provides more accuracies. I'm always for improvement but it's easy to take for granted how far we've come.
As for the material I can see what turbo is saying in regards to the suede like behaviour of the coat but the material allows the coat to maintain a nice slim fitted look and hang naturally. A thicker material would not behave as nicely.
As for the color here's a prop shot where it looks pretty damn close and keep in mind this exhibit is clearly lit under tungsten lighting which warms everything up and we are still looking at a cool red color.
As far as I'm concerned we paid the premium for this release and got a premium product for it. Short of annoying things like the knives not fitting in the sheaths and the fragile hat not fitting securely on his head I can't say that this set deserves any major criticism.
Looks like we posted the same picture at the same time!
Also I love Rainman but likenesses are not always his strong point. This is the third iteration of this DDL sculpt and it's never looked better. And we can safely all maybe agree on that his DDL likeness is his best ever.
With a few disappointing releases in the past specifically Jules and parts of the driver I'm stoked to celebrate this release, something I didn't even really want to see to to be honest but couldn't pass up, in all it's glory!
Also I love Rainman but likenesses are not always his strong point. This is the third iteration of this DDL sculpt and it's never looked better. And we can safely all maybe agree on that his DDL likeness is his best ever.
With a few disappointing releases in the past specifically Jules and parts of the driver I'm stoked to celebrate this release, something I didn't even really want to see to to be honest but couldn't pass up, in all it's glory!
turbo.VS.ozone
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I guess it's a difference of opinion then Ray because no issues with the hat staying still or the knives fitting in place effortlessly in the belt for me, but again I'm of the opinion that the coat material and color, vest color and hat color could have been much improved. 
I will say this though, Quality to turnover time No-one beats Rainman. It's machine like how he's able to manage this.
I will say this though, Quality to turnover time No-one beats Rainman. It's machine like how he's able to manage this.
Oh I do have another criticism besides the hat I didn't see mentioned yet; the pig head is way oversized. Still it's an awesome accessory though.
Even though it's not accurate to the outfit I would have loved to see a bloody butcher apron like the old VM figure included.
Even though it's not accurate to the outfit I would have loved to see a bloody butcher apron like the old VM figure included.
Commtech
Super Freak
I think the knifes not fitting in the belt and coming unglued is a bigger issue. I had to re-glue mine when I tried putting the knifes in. V1 had not problems with this, I believe. Why was the quality inferior this time around?
robbiethepainter
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The belt utilizes real leather instead of vinyl. Small stitching creates a weak connection in leather and so instead of having the stitches hold the parts together, I'm guessing they went with glue. The upside is with glue, its only a matter of re gluing. If the stitches tear, then the belt is trash.
In regards to the material selection, there is a very limited amount that is usable in this scale. Getting material that is thin enough, correct color, and still can be sewn is a huge challenge. All of the things that we want for this scale kind of go against what other industries require. Just look at some of the customs on this site. They might be correct in color or texture, but they don't look very good. These high-end tailors know the requirements of the fabrics. There is a lot of working knowledge that most people don't know. There is a reason there are only a few exceptional tailors.
In regards to the material selection, there is a very limited amount that is usable in this scale. Getting material that is thin enough, correct color, and still can be sewn is a huge challenge. All of the things that we want for this scale kind of go against what other industries require. Just look at some of the customs on this site. They might be correct in color or texture, but they don't look very good. These high-end tailors know the requirements of the fabrics. There is a lot of working knowledge that most people don't know. There is a reason there are only a few exceptional tailors.
Corrose
Super Freak
Yeah I'm disappointed in the knife and belt issue myself. I have 2 knives that when I very very very slowly try to insert the glued seams start to peel. I just put those 2 knives away and will not be displayed in my belt, its not worth tearing to me. I would have rather had stitches and the sleeves be 20% too large than glue and a skin tight fit. For the price tag I don't like that I can't easily and safely put all the knives in
Corrose
Super Freak
It's a bit of a frustration too because as much as I love V1, in many regards V2 is a superior figure. Just a couple things I wish we're different. I wish honestly I could just go to his site and order a v1 belt set and knives and use it for v2. Had zero issues with the v1 set
Since there is so many people complaining about the pattern of the vest, color of the jacket, then why nobody wants to sell it to me?
chilipep66
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I personally didnt have any trouble with the knives fitting in the belt, no forcing or stretching at all here!
I do indeed have the hat problem though, using blue tac doesn't help but at least ensures the protection of Bill's head.
I do indeed have the hat problem though, using blue tac doesn't help but at least ensures the protection of Bill's head.
Since there is so many people complaining about the pattern of the vest, color of the jacket, then why nobody wants to sell it to me?
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Leon 911
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I was one of the unfortunate ones to receive the glue seepage. I dont even want to try putting all knives in... Waiting for a response from him on what could be done... Tic tok... 2 days and waiting.
chubbyman
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Are you having trouble keeping the hat on bill? Because for me, a small strip of blue tac across the back of the head works perfectly fine.
chilipep66
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well it sits on fine but the slightlest bump breeze or walk but will send it tumbling. Certainly nothing at all like the V1. All you can do is use the tac to ensure a little bit of stick and protect the paint
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