Re: [Rainman Artwork]The Butcher V2 MARCH PREORDER
that should really bring this home .
Bravo Tim
that should really bring this home .
Bravo Tim
[Rainman Artwork]The Butcher "Bill 2nd"
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Re: [Rainman Artwork]The Butcher V2 MARCH PREORDER
Just starting to catch up with the suggestions being thrown around and I agree with most of them. The vest could definitely use some color tweaks here and there but I have to say I'm impressed with it even as is (although I am hoping that the proper changes will be made). Denny always says that he can't make custom patterns unless he buys 1000 yards of a fabric. When it comes to these obscure patterns Iminime seems to have a hard time coming anywhere close to as accurate as this vest (i.e. Tyler's plane jacket, Tylers penguin shirt, it was just announced that they can't do both accurate color and pattern for Walt's green shirt; so it has to be one or the other, etc.). I'm really hoping that the right changes can be made here to make it as accurate as possible, but I have to applaud the fact that a pattern this difficult was achieved to 80% accuracy on the first go.
The body choice is my biggest qualm with this whole thing. The arms of a TTM21 have nothing to do with the Butcher's build. I wish more people spoke up when I was saying that the KO was the way to go for this. I also should have mentioned it earlier than I did and maybe made a little more noise about it. I wonder if it's too late and if ALL of the outfits are done or just the sample proto. If it's too late to have this fit for a KO, I wonder if he could just have the sleeves slimmed down for a better fit. As is, it would be an improvement if it were slimmer still on the 21.
Aside from what everyone else has mentioned (hat colors, vest colors, slimmer sleeves, dark stripe of the pants a bit darker) the two things that jump out at me are the pig and the shillelagh. I was joking when I said throw some paint on that pig... but I really thought he was
. He left it like the natural color of the resin that he used which looks grey-ish white and not the pale pink of a pig's skin color. Not a huge deal but I think the center color where the notches are on the shillelagh is a shade or two darker than it is on screen.
Just starting to catch up with the suggestions being thrown around and I agree with most of them. The vest could definitely use some color tweaks here and there but I have to say I'm impressed with it even as is (although I am hoping that the proper changes will be made). Denny always says that he can't make custom patterns unless he buys 1000 yards of a fabric. When it comes to these obscure patterns Iminime seems to have a hard time coming anywhere close to as accurate as this vest (i.e. Tyler's plane jacket, Tylers penguin shirt, it was just announced that they can't do both accurate color and pattern for Walt's green shirt; so it has to be one or the other, etc.). I'm really hoping that the right changes can be made here to make it as accurate as possible, but I have to applaud the fact that a pattern this difficult was achieved to 80% accuracy on the first go.
The body choice is my biggest qualm with this whole thing. The arms of a TTM21 have nothing to do with the Butcher's build. I wish more people spoke up when I was saying that the KO was the way to go for this. I also should have mentioned it earlier than I did and maybe made a little more noise about it. I wonder if it's too late and if ALL of the outfits are done or just the sample proto. If it's too late to have this fit for a KO, I wonder if he could just have the sleeves slimmed down for a better fit. As is, it would be an improvement if it were slimmer still on the 21.
Aside from what everyone else has mentioned (hat colors, vest colors, slimmer sleeves, dark stripe of the pants a bit darker) the two things that jump out at me are the pig and the shillelagh. I was joking when I said throw some paint on that pig... but I really thought he was
. He left it like the natural color of the resin that he used which looks grey-ish white and not the pale pink of a pig's skin color. Not a huge deal but I think the center color where the notches are on the shillelagh is a shade or two darker than it is on screen.
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Lee will be darkening the stripes on pants.
Also he will be changing hat colour.
I sent him this image and said the pattern is petty good but colours are way off. Too bright and paler colours are needed. Light to mid green and pale orange. Lee said he would address this as he agreed.
He also said:
Tailor said"i need more time for test"
More comparison pics...
Some things are completely off but Rainman said he will be making corrections.
Lee will be darkening the stripes on pants.
Also he will be changing hat colour.
I sent him this image and said the pattern is petty good but colours are way off. Too bright and paler colours are needed. Light to mid green and pale orange. Lee said he would address this as he agreed.
He also said:
Tailor said"i need more time for test"
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Did you score a set mate?
Agreed on all points. I have forwarded your post to Lee. Hope that's ok.
that should really bring this home .
Bravo Tim
Did you score a set mate?
Just starting to catch up with the suggestions being thrown around and I agree with most of them. The vest could definitely use some color tweaks here and there but I have to say I'm impressed with it even as is (although I am hoping that the proper changes will be made). Denny always says that he can't make custom patterns unless he buys 1000 yards of a fabric. When it comes to these obscure patterns Iminime seems to have a hard time coming anywhere close to as accurate as this vest (i.e. Tyler's plane jacket, Tylers penguin shirt, it was just announced that they can't do both accurate color and pattern for Walt's green shirt; so it has to be one or the other, etc.). I'm really hoping that the right changes can be made here to make it as accurate as possible, but I have to applaud the fact that a pattern this difficult was achieved to 80% accuracy on the first go.
The body choice is my biggest qualm with this whole thing. The arms of a TTM21 have nothing to do with the Butcher's build. I wish more people spoke up when I was saying that the KO was the way to go for this. I also should have mentioned it earlier than I did and maybe made a little more noise about it. I wonder if it's too late and if ALL of the outfits are done or just the sample proto. If it's too late to have this fit for a KO, I wonder if he could just have the sleeves slimmed down for a better fit. As is, it would be an improvement if it were slimmer still on the 21.
Aside from what everyone else has mentioned (hat colors, vest colors, slimmer sleeves, dark stripe of the pants a bit darker) the two things that jump out at me are the pig and the shillelagh. I was joking when I said throw some paint on that pig... but I really thought he was
Agreed on all points. I have forwarded your post to Lee. Hope that's ok.
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In total agreement with mike about the body choice, regardless I'm gonna be swapping mine over anyways, but it would have been better to be tailored from the get go on the slimmer shoulders. DDL is a tooth pick! And this being the third figure, you'd think both he and all us nit pickers should be able to tell
In total agreement with mike about the body choice, regardless I'm gonna be swapping mine over anyways, but it would have been better to be tailored from the get go on the slimmer shoulders. DDL is a tooth pick! And this being the third figure, you'd think both he and all us nit pickers should be able to tell
Re: [Rainman Artwork]The Butcher V2 MARCH PREORDER
After Chili finds his new BFF, if anyone else wants a new bestie and is looking to let their DX go, please let me know!!!! I have a FS secured and I'll swap with someone's DX or I can sign my FS over to someone if I secure a DX thru someone or tomorrow
Maybe the Butcher may not be your cup of tea but there is a fair fan base for this movie and character. Maybe there's one or two out there who's interested in the piece solely as an art figure or attracted to the limited aspect, but I suspect the fandom is genuine for the most part. This is no slouch of a flick here! We're talking Scorsese, we're talking a killer performance by DDL, we're talking Di Caprio and several other big names and although this movie didn't win anything, it was nominated in almost every category in the 2003 Academy awards!
After Chili finds his new BFF, if anyone else wants a new bestie and is looking to let their DX go, please let me know!!!! I have a FS secured and I'll swap with someone's DX or I can sign my FS over to someone if I secure a DX thru someone or tomorrow
Maybe the Butcher may not be your cup of tea but there is a fair fan base for this movie and character. Maybe there's one or two out there who's interested in the piece solely as an art figure or attracted to the limited aspect, but I suspect the fandom is genuine for the most part. This is no slouch of a flick here! We're talking Scorsese, we're talking a killer performance by DDL, we're talking Di Caprio and several other big names and although this movie didn't win anything, it was nominated in almost every category in the 2003 Academy awards!
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I've spoken to Lee about the body. We shall see but I think it's doubtful.
I've spoken to Lee about the body. We shall see but I think it's doubtful.
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Thanks for getting those points across to Rainman Tim! Also I agree 100% Pop, love how accurate the pattern is on the waistcoat even though the color is wrong and will be fixed, Iminime always states they can't source certain patterns and that really bothers me, that accuracy is important and should never be overlooked, I wanted to Tyler Durden Airplane look but opted out because of that jacket.
Thanks for getting those points across to Rainman Tim! Also I agree 100% Pop, love how accurate the pattern is on the waistcoat even though the color is wrong and will be fixed, Iminime always states they can't source certain patterns and that really bothers me, that accuracy is important and should never be overlooked, I wanted to Tyler Durden Airplane look but opted out because of that jacket.
[Rainman Artwork]The Butcher V2 MARCH PREORDER
I did ,
I got the dx set ..must of been fate I just got out the shower in the morning phone was on the side and thought I would check his site and it popped up . Shocked ,,,, ordered # secured # grail !
Agree totally about the body choice that's a major issue ,
I'd be happy with the ko so I could switch out later , that's my only gripe really .
Did you score a set mate?
Agreed on all points. I have forwarded your post to Lee. Hope that's ok.
I did ,
I got the dx set ..must of been fate I just got out the shower in the morning phone was on the side and thought I would check his site and it popped up . Shocked ,,,, ordered # secured # grail !
Agree totally about the body choice that's a major issue ,
I'd be happy with the ko so I could switch out later , that's my only gripe really .
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Great stuff. Pleased for you mate.
Pleasure.
The pattern is being printed onto the fabric. I think if the colours are fixed and muted it will help to start tying things together.
Great stuff. Pleased for you mate.
Pleasure.
The pattern is being printed onto the fabric. I think if the colours are fixed and muted it will help to start tying things together.
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All good in the hood
I hope he could come thru on that. Only Chili and Sam spoke up when I was first suggesting this but we needed more voices than that to make a difference. I guess some people didn't pay much mind to the suggestion thinking it wasn't going to be a big deal but now the proto pics dropped and the proof is in the pudding.
I know I went a little hard with my disappointment when he used the KO for Plainview but I was under the mindset that $800+ figs shouldn't be built on cheap bodies. I do still feel that way but in certain instances there can be exceptions that will be acceptable. The TTM18 was near extinct when he was offering Plainview so in retrospect that was understandable, and in this case if the proper official body isn't easily accessible then going with plan B for the sake of the tailoring should be acceptable too! If the current KO is as good of an example as the one used for Plainview then most people wouldn't even care. If it's a POS then we could at least swap it to an official Narrow
If you're already in talks with him about this, run that way of thinking past him. I didn't do it myself because I didn't get much response from the crowd, and I'm not the type to lobby for something behind the scenes if there isn't significant support. If more people we're in agreement with me and spoke up, then I would have
Agreed on all points. I have forwarded your post to Lee. Hope that's ok.
All good in the hood
I hope he could come thru on that. Only Chili and Sam spoke up when I was first suggesting this but we needed more voices than that to make a difference. I guess some people didn't pay much mind to the suggestion thinking it wasn't going to be a big deal but now the proto pics dropped and the proof is in the pudding.
I know I went a little hard with my disappointment when he used the KO for Plainview but I was under the mindset that $800+ figs shouldn't be built on cheap bodies. I do still feel that way but in certain instances there can be exceptions that will be acceptable. The TTM18 was near extinct when he was offering Plainview so in retrospect that was understandable, and in this case if the proper official body isn't easily accessible then going with plan B for the sake of the tailoring should be acceptable too! If the current KO is as good of an example as the one used for Plainview then most people wouldn't even care. If it's a POS then we could at least swap it to an official Narrow
If you're already in talks with him about this, run that way of thinking past him. I didn't do it myself because I didn't get much response from the crowd, and I'm not the type to lobby for something behind the scenes if there isn't significant support. If more people we're in agreement with me and spoke up, then I would have
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Good point! There always seems to be a few people who say they didn't really get anything from GONY. But like you said it was nominated many times that year. The film really is special in many aspects one because it did such a great job showing a glimpse of the past in that time period. Great sets and costume design. But the thing that made the film unique for me was showing the racial warfare between the natives Of New York and the Irish. Hasn't been too many films I've seen have this idea before. And on top of that you have DDL who killed it lol
After Chili finds his new BFF, if anyone else wants a new bestie and is looking to let their DX go, please let me know!!!! I have a FS secured and I'll swap with someone's DX or I can sign my FS over to someone if I secure a DX thru someone or tomorrow
Maybe the Butcher may not be your cup of tea but there is a fair fan base for this movie and character. Maybe there's one or two out there who's interested in the piece solely as an art figure or attracted to the limited aspect, but I suspect the fandom is genuine for the most part. This is no slouch of a flick here! We're talking Scorsese, we're talking a killer performance by DDL, we're talking Di Caprio and several other big names and although this movie didn't win anything, it was nominated in almost every category in the 2003 Academy awards!
Good point! There always seems to be a few people who say they didn't really get anything from GONY. But like you said it was nominated many times that year. The film really is special in many aspects one because it did such a great job showing a glimpse of the past in that time period. Great sets and costume design. But the thing that made the film unique for me was showing the racial warfare between the natives Of New York and the Irish. Hasn't been too many films I've seen have this idea before. And on top of that you have DDL who killed it lol
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Should the hat from this set/outfit be shorter than the hat from the first release? If so, would it be too difficult for Lee to trim it down a little at this point?
Should the hat from this set/outfit be shorter than the hat from the first release? If so, would it be too difficult for Lee to trim it down a little at this point?
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No. Its the same height. It just has a thinner band.
No. Its the same height. It just has a thinner band.
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Thanks for the info Robbie.
Thanks for the info Robbie.
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Found a few more pics for reference.
Has anybody else noticed that the shoes are completely wrong on the proto?
And I just like the last pic.
Found a few more pics for reference.
Has anybody else noticed that the shoes are completely wrong on the proto?
And I just like the last pic.
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Are the shoes the wrong style or the wrong color? Or both?
Found a few more pics for reference.
Has anybody else noticed that the shoes are completely wrong on the proto?
And I just like the last pic.
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[img]https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7178/13394952403_480bcddb46_c.jpg
Are the shoes the wrong style or the wrong color? Or both?
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I think it's just the lighting playing tricks. RM's boots may not be the exact perfect color but I believe that those are the same boots worn with the brawler outfit
Yes, yes & yes
I think it's just the lighting playing tricks. RM's boots may not be the exact perfect color but I believe that those are the same boots worn with the brawler outfit
Yes, yes & yes
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Is there any confirmation from Rainman that the Pipe can be used with the sculpt? It should have a purpose. Can someone close to "Lee" get some info on this.
I havent paid much attention to the body complaints but after seeing the proto I'm in complete agreement and support of using a KO body, as others have suggested, that's slim like the body used for the Bill V1. It does make sense to at least tailor it to the KO body so that we can have the option to swap it over to a TTM-18 if need be.
Is there any confirmation from Rainman that the Pipe can be used with the sculpt? It should have a purpose. Can someone close to "Lee" get some info on this.
I havent paid much attention to the body complaints but after seeing the proto I'm in complete agreement and support of using a KO body, as others have suggested, that's slim like the body used for the Bill V1. It does make sense to at least tailor it to the KO body so that we can have the option to swap it over to a TTM-18 if need be.
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