Media Resident Evil 2 (1/25/2019)

[EndoSickness]

So can we be best friends? Just kidding. I got your back around these parts though. Classic Resident Evil is the REAL Resident Evil. Screw the poser junk. Funny that RE 4 just ripped off the Parasyte manga with the first Plaga form and Krauser's arm. Hardly anybody talks about that though. Sad with how creative RE 2 - Zero were. Capcom should have just gotten the rights to adapt a Parasyte game instead of making one and calling it RE 4.

Finished the sculpt, been working on the paint app.

I never played Parasite Eve, so I can´t talk about that either.^^
I think it looks great, but there´s hardly a difference from the pic before...or am I mistaken?!

 

[ironwez20]

Sorry dude you are objectively wrong. Over the shoulder is NOT A CONTROL TYPE, IT'S A CAMERA PERSPECTIVE. They literally 110% still had tank CONTROLS. Up is forward, left and right TURN YOU IN PLACE. Ya know, LIKE A TANK!!! D'OH!!! THAT'S WHY THEY'RE CALLED TANK CONTROLS!!!

You seem to be having trouble understanding what I'm talking about, and you clearly cannot tell the difference between the camera angle and control type, which are two seperate aspects of game design.. Not trying to be rude but you are literally objectively wrong here. Tank controls and over the shoulder camera are two different things that were both in 4 and 5, and 6 + Revelations 1+2 to an extent. Like it's not even debate-able. You just...what.

You were LITERALLY using tank controls in 4 and 5 and you didn't even know it...LOL You just don't like fixed camera angles and prefer the over the shoulder CAMERA PERSPECTIVE. Most modern gamers do, I think you're all nostalgic of RE4 and that is why y'all defend OTS camera perspective and claim anybody who disagrees are the ones who are nostalgic. Me though, I simply prefer NOT staring at the back of my characters all game long, for me it has NOTHING to do with old resident evil or nostalgia, I just find OTS too limiting. Oh look, the back of my character. THE WHOLE GAME. WHEEEE... but that's not what we're talkin' about right now.

You literally called fixed camera angles and classic RE games "horrid". Unbelievable. Like fighting Nemesis in RE3 wasn't fast paced, or fighting the Cerberus in all classic RE games. Not fast paced at all. The Hunters? Fighting them isn't fast paced, it's horrid. Your arguements are so laughably ludicrous, I can't take you seriously at all anymore. Thanks for the laugh though. Modern gamers man, sheesh.

Anyways please actually try to comprehend what over the shoulder camera angle, fixed camera angles, and tank controls are as described accurately by me above, because you clearly don't. I've been studying game design through Full Sail University for two years now. I know what I'm talking about. This has been a public service announcement, please stand by for your regularly scheduled programming.

Lol damn can you chill lmao. Sheesh. Not everyone likes the slow paced tank controls of the first few games . Yea the over the shoulder combat games didn’t feel like RE but it was fun still. Felt more like you close to the action. It made it more personal. For me anyway. I understand that the tank controls added a more scary vibe but they just weren’t for me. As I grew older i just didn’t like it as much.
And freaking relax man. Damn. Your gonna pop a blood vessel. You can like the damn tank controls if you want. And I don’t care where u go study. It’s a damn video game.... relax . And nah to me the original RE games were never about fast paced combat. More like strategy but that’s not a bad thing.

 

[bwh1990]

I never played Parasite Eve, so I can´t talk about that either.^^
I think it looks great, but there´s hardly a difference from the pic before...or am I mistaken?!

No man, Parasyte was a manga from the '90's. It has nothing to do with Squaresoft's Parasite Eve games. Crapcom stole the design of the Parasyte for the Las Plagas first form, and Krauser's arm is also stolen from a character in the same manga.

Crapcom didn't know how to continue Resident Evil's storyline so they just get rid of Umbrella in the opening cutscene and turned RE4 into a Parasyte ripoff. Then they kill off Spencer in a cutscene in 5, then turn Wesker into a cliche cartoon/comic book villain and kill him off. Once again, I hate Capcom so much. Konami pretty much did the same thing with Silent Hill, turned it into a parody of itself. Then EA turns Dead Space into a crappy action game in the third game like Capcom did with RE6. Horror games have really gone downhill. And it can all be traced back to RE4. That was the beginning of the end of survival horror. Alien Isolation was pretty good though.

Ironwez20 we obviously are gonna have to agree to disagree, depending on the enemy the classic, real RE game were plenty fast paced. Go play Dead Space for really fast enemies and combat.

You're right that REAL Resident Evils weren't really about the shooting. It was about strategic survival, dodging enemies was more important than FPS style shooting galleries and precision aiming. Atmosphere was also important. So was actually being creative with the enemies. That's what I miss about the classics. Creativity. Music. Atmosphere. Completely missing after 4. At least 4 had good boss fights. That's the only praise I can give it.

 

[Scareb]

Lol damn can you chill lmao. Sheesh. Not everyone likes the slow paced tank controls of the first few games . Yea the over the shoulder combat games didn’t feel like RE but it was fun still. Felt more like you close to the action. It made it more personal. For me anyway. I understand that the tank controls added a more scary vibe but they just weren’t for me. As I grew older i just didn’t like it as much.
And freaking relax man. Damn. Your gonna pop a blood vessel. You can like the damn tank controls if you want. And I don’t care where u go study. It’s a damn video game.... relax . And nah to me the original RE games were never about fast paced combat. More like strategy but that’s not a bad thing.

You can just tell that when this guy walks into a room, every one sighs and mutters under their breath.

(Not talking about you btw Iron)

 

[sldoank]

Getting my popcorn... *Kraush *Kraush.... Its always a fun seeing grown up guys bickering each other about a game that now their children played... hahahahaha... Chill out guys, remember they made the game not just for us but also for the boys or man much much younger than us so as long as they like it and the money keep rolling they actually do not care about everything else... my advice just enjoy it that RE is still exist nowadays and stop bitching about it...

 

[Scareb]

Getting my popcorn... *Kraush *Kraush.... Its always a fun seeing grown up guys bickering each other about a game that now their children played... hahahahaha... Chill out guys, remember they made the game not just for us but also for the boys or man much much younger than us so as long as they like it and the money keep rolling they actually do not care about everything else... my advice just enjoy it that RE is still exist nowadays and stop bitching about it...

I'm gonna play the **** out of this new one and i'm still going to have strong heartfelt feelings for the OG series.

 

[ironwez20]

Getting my popcorn... *Kraush *Kraush.... Its always a fun seeing grown up guys bickering each other about a game that now their children played... hahahahaha... Chill out guys, remember they made the game not just for us but also for the boys or man much much younger than us so as long as they like it and the money keep rolling they actually do not care about everything else... my advice just enjoy it that RE is still exist nowadays and stop bitching about it...

Lol I’m cool. I’m just talking bout tank controls in a peaceful manner . I get that they were the staple of the franchise for a time but all games evolve over time. RE evolved for better or worse. And maybe 4-6 didn’t feel like RE to most people but they brought in a whole new audience. Even tho 5-6 to me is ****. So yea I think Over the shoulder combat is much better for RE2 remake cause it feels more personal and you can see the zombies design better to.

 

[ironwez20]

No man, Parasyte was a manga from the '90's. It has nothing to do with Squaresoft's Parasite Eve games. Crapcom stole the design of the Parasyte for the Las Plagas first form, and Krauser's arm is also stolen from a character in the same manga.

Crapcom didn't know how to continue Resident Evil's storyline so they just get rid of Umbrella in the opening cutscene and turned RE4 into a Parasyte ripoff. Then they kill off Spencer in a cutscene in 5, then turn Wesker into a cliche cartoon/comic book villain and kill him off. Once again, I hate Capcom so much. Konami pretty much did the same thing with Silent Hill, turned it into a parody of itself. Then EA turns Dead Space into a crappy action game in the third game like Capcom did with RE6. Horror games have really gone downhill. And it can all be traced back to RE4. That was the beginning of the end of survival horror. Alien Isolation was pretty good though.

Ironwez20 we obviously are gonna have to agree to disagree, depending on the enemy the classic, real RE game were plenty fast paced. Go play Dead Space for really fast enemies and combat.

You're right that REAL Resident Evils weren't really about the shooting. It was about strategic survival, dodging enemies was more important than FPS style shooting galleries and precision aiming. Atmosphere was also important. So was actually being creative with the enemies. That's what I miss about the classics. Creativity. Music. Atmosphere. Completely missing after 4. At least 4 had good boss fights. That's the only praise I can give it.

Yes I understand....... I love the old school RE games. Best of all time. I just understand why capcom decided to evolve the formula

 

[kfcolt1911]

this thread is becoming more and more negative, its not even about the remake anymore, the reason many modern survival game changes can be traced back to resident evil 4 is because it was and still is successful and good game. resident evil 5 had many floors but sold incredibly well. some people may not like the camera change or the game itself I get that to each there own. sure 4 isn't the classic masterpiece that 2 is but that's okay it doesn't take anything away from 2.


and again people are free to have and express their opinions, but isn't saying 4 and after isn't "real" resident evil a little unfair the later games where made by Capcom and are apart of an established cannon, like its basically a fact there all resident evil, excluding 4 and up is kinda like being in denial

and talking about 4 copying stuff, wasn't the original resident evil inspired by a previous game?

 

[bwh1990]

You can just tell that when this guy walks into a room, every one sighs and mutters under their breath.

(Not talking about you btw Iron)

That's rather rude.

 

[bwh1990]

Yes I understand....... I love the old school RE games. Best of all time. I just understand why capcom decided to evolve the formula

For money. They're a corporation focused solely on profits, foolishly chasing after call of duty sales numbers. There is a reason all the talent left Capcom years ago. Mikami left. Capcom sucks. There are valid reasons people call them Crapcom. They're notorious for being terrible to work for.

The reason they changed Resident Evil is because RE Zero didn't sell well, because it wasn't a fun or well thought out game. So they freaked out and decided to totally change RE4 which was already being developed.

It's unclear if they were already stealing the Parasyte manga's author's design for his parasyte creatures before this though. He could sue for plagiarism, it's literally the exact design lifted out of his manga and copied and pasted into RE4. Morally reprehensible behaviour on Capcom's part. So no, I don't consider RE4 and after real Resident Evil, because they're based off stealing somebody else's ideas and giving them no credit. It's Resident Evil in name only, for me at least.

Back on the subject this thread is about, I wonder if we'll still have a little segment where we play as Sherry and Ada. Also wondering if HUNK will be a part of the campaign or they'll keep it like The 4th Survivor from the original RE 2. Will we see the return of the Tofu Survivor???

 

[Scareb]

That's rather rude.

Well i certainly didn't comment that because I think you're an A-OK kinda guy. And i'm fairly confident that it's accurate as well.

Also, I'm the one being rude?

You've basically done nothing but belittle others for their opinion. If they differ from yours, they're automatically wrong. You sound like that nerd everyone knows that never gets invited to social functions because you have to point out how people are wrong about topics and then correct them. And if by bad luck you actually do show up, people try not to talk around you because they know you're just gonna jump in yelling "You're wrong! You're wrong! You're wrong!"

Grow up.

 

[bwh1990]

Well i certainly didn't comment that because I think you're an A-OK kinda guy. And i'm fairly confident that it's accurate as well.

Also, I'm the one being rude?

You've basically done nothing but belittle others for their opinion. If they differ from yours, they're automatically wrong. You sound like that nerd everyone knows that never gets invited to social functions because you have to point out how people are wrong about topics and then correct them. And if by bad luck you actually do show up, people try not to talk around you because they know you're just gonna jump in yelling "You're wrong! You're wrong! You're wrong!"

Grow up.

No, it's called debating, and I never belittled anybody. All of you need to get used to hearing opposing opinions, it's a part of life.

The only time I said ironwez20 was objectively wrong was when he was literally objectively wrong regarding tank controls because he didn't know what he was talking about.

YOU grow up. You're the one whining because you don't like what I have to say. Adults debate issues all the time. GET USED TO IT. I wasn't pissed off at ironwez20 anyway, I just debated him. Either way, debate's over so let's move on. I said all that I felt was necessary regarding Crapcom ruining Resident Evil anyway.

 

[ironwez20]

Ah jeez. Anyway I hope we see something at tgs

 

[Darth Snoopy]

Enough. I may not have the authority to clean up this thread but I do have the ability to infract and or ban.

Be civil towards each other and stick to the topic of the thread.

You've been warned.

 

[Ted Knight's Ghost]

We're cool now lol.

Talked about it on the phone, turns out we actually have more in common than we realized.

Damn, got into it to fight, ended up being friends lol.

 

[bwh1990]

We're cool now lol.

Talked about it on the phone, turns out we actually have more in common than we realized.

Damn, got into it to fight, ended up being friends lol.

More like rage scream hulk moded at each other for fifteen minutes before we ran outta steam, calmed down and worked it out, thankfully. Life is strange like that. I gotta box one of my friends now, get the excess grrr out this afternoon. Sitting in the Super 1 deli using their wifi when I should just go home and get some sleep. Shouldn't have downloaded all those painting tutorials for my Birkin figure, never done non necromorph skin tones before. Worthy sacrifice. Stupid 10GB data plan. REALLY hope they do Birkin justice in this reimagining.

 

[ChaserFan]

Enough. I may not have the authority to clean up this thread but I do have the ability to infract and or ban.

Be civil towards each other and stick to the topic of the thread.

You've been warned.

 

[bwh1990]

So what's everybody's guess at which monsters from other RE games Crapcom's putting in RE 2 2019 since they hinted at it? My guess is maybe crimson heads from REmake, maybe a couple hunters down in the labs, a slim chance of spotting, but not fighting Nemesis as a teaser for RE3 remake, maybe a brain sucker or drain deimos from RE3? I wonder if they'll try and put Birkin's original concept art from RE 1.5 in there somewhere. All we can do is guess for now.

 

[ironwez20]

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