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[Anti-Wave Man]

You can't have the arms straight and together at the front. You have to bend one or both of them to have the hands together. Still looks great in the end though.

 

[The_Philosopher]

You can't have the arms straight and together at the front. You have to bend one or both of them to have the hands together. Still looks great in the end though.

That's the proper form though (earth arm bent). In the anime, whenever they have both arms straight it's because they're breaking form typically in desperation, but a focused Kamehameha always has the earth arm bent while the heaven arm is straight.

Their chest is never suppose to face forward (towards their target). But instead, their chest should point away from their target, placing the arms to aim from the side of their body, which can only result from bending the earth arm (bottom arm)

 

[SurlyJ]

Well, I had ordered a MISB normal vegeta from a potentially shady seller in China back on 8/1. He marked it as shipped on 8/6. No tracking info. Sent him a message around the 12th. No response. Then today ebay tells me that the listing I had bought was removed. I opened an item not received case and 5 minutes later they refunded me, so looks like that seller got booted or something. I got my $106 back, but I'm holding out a vain hope the Vegeta will show up in the mail in the next 2 weeks lol.

Mostly annoyed because I could have just bought one of the other normal Vegeta's that were listed for about $100-120 at the time. Now I'm rethinking it but I do want to have one MISB. If anyone is selling, PM me. Otherwise that $100 may go towards something else... like the second Regular Goku and Manga Piccolo I ordered off amazon today.

 

[Elpidio Valdés]

Hey guys have you ever ordered one of these figures from Hong Kong before I did without thinking late last month and it still hasn't arrived the estimated date is from today to mid September is there any reason to be worried or is it common for them to take this long when going from halfway across the world?

Ok, the Cell I ordered from Hong Kong, from the seller bibidsale didn't arrive. The seller's account was removed and I'm 2 days late to open a case... I screwed up! Open a case as soon as you can! The guy had almost 200 feedback...
I filed a claim in paypal, does anybody know if that works?

 

[SurlyJ]

Ok, the Cell I ordered from Hong Kong, from the seller bibidsale didn't arrive. The seller's account was removed and I'm 2 days late to open a case... I screwed up! Open a case as soon as you can! The guy had almost 200 feedback...
I filed a claim in paypal, does anybody know if that works?

Bibidsale... I think that's the ******* I bought my normal vegeta from.

 

[Anti-Wave Man]

That's the proper form though (earth arm bent). In the anime, whenever they have both arms straight it's because they're breaking form typically in desperation, but a focused Kamehameha always has the earth arm bent while the heaven arm is straight.

Their chest is never suppose to face forward (towards their target). But instead, their chest should point away from their target, placing the arms to aim from the side of their body, which can only result from bending the earth arm (bottom arm)

I've never seen anything about this "proper form for a Kamehameha" before. Where does this info come from?
These guys seem to have straight arms...

I don't think there's actually a 'form' to Kamehamehas. Sometimes they put their hands together in front before they bring them back to charge the move. Sometimes they bring the hands back first. Gohan does one to Cell without even charging at all, he just stands still saying "Ka... me... ha... me..." and only moves his arms at all on the final "HAA!"

 

[Big Deano]

Watch dragonball, thats where the form comes from. Its also known as the "true kamehameha". Sure there are variations once the technique is mastered, but thats the proper way to do it.

 

[Anti-Wave Man]

I have seen Dragon Ball, and read it in manga form.

The name "True Kamehameha" is from the Budokai Tenkaichi games, it's never said in the show.

Also, Roshi's Kamehameha? He does a whole bunch of hand movements and stuff that no-one else does ever again, e.g. this

Is that also part of the proper form? I'm really not sure that this business about which arm is bent ever comes into play. No one ever talks about the arms, or the direction the torso faces. Sure, that is the way he does it that time, but what proof is there that doing it with the arms straight out front is wrong?

EDIT:
Ok, the only time I could think of that anyone talks about the "form" of a Kamehameha, rather than how much power is in it, is when Krillin tries the move for the first time on Chiaotzu in their battle in the 22nd tournament.

As you can see he has the bent arms and side torso.
This is what Master Roshi says in the japanese version according to my subtitles:
"You've improved incredibly, Kuririn.
Had I properly taught you the Kamehameha,
you would have undoubtably won with that attack alone!"

Nothing specific at all. If there is a time that the arms are mentioned please tell me.

 

[Silrian]

In DB Krillin actually invents the move to charge a kamehameha, make a massive mobility move, and THEN fire it. We DBZ fans all thought Goku did that against cell but he copied his best friend's move.

 

[Anti-Wave Man]

Well, jumping in the air is not quite the same as instant transmission. But close. Goku you cheater! He also copies Solar Flare! GOKU!!
Also, that was Krillin's first ever Kamehameha. He'd never done it before that fight, so even more props to him.

 

[Big Deano]

Oh come on man, you are really saying you have never heard of the proper kamehameha form? Thats even the way I used to pretend as a kid! Not only is it the real way to do the move, its also the most natural. If you do the gesture, your lower arm naturally bends to accomodate the other.

Its a technique, goes without saying that it needs a form to go with it.

 

[Anti-Wave Man]

Apologies for sticking this topic for so long, but further evidence has been discovered.

Master Roshi's original Kamehameha, by the INVENTOR OF THE TECHNIQUE, has his torso forward. Also as you can see both arms are bent, rather than "heaven straight and earth bent"

Even in the famous Father-Son Kamehameha picture! Goku's arms are STRAIGHT! His elbows are locked! And his torso is facing forward!


Seriously, where did this information about the proper form of a Kamehameha come from? Give me a source guys, word of mouth (text on a forum actually...) isn't enough.

 

[Big Deano]

https://youtu.be/FUwKEWPR32g

https://youtu.be/Cxgdx0fTuOs

https://youtu.be/Bc5vVAUcaR4

When they have the chance they use the proper form.

 

[Anti-Wave Man]

Where in that video did it state,

"You must fire the Kamehameha with your torso side on, with your heaven arm straight and your earth arm bent. The other ways are wrong."

Yes, that is how he performed it, but nothing that I have seen, in that video or otherwise, says that you HAVE to do it like that, or that doing it any other way is wrong.
And there are plenty of cases where Kamehameha's fired (not straining, not losing a beam struggle) did not have heaven arm straight and earth arm bent, or the torso side on. That's what The_Philosopher said was the only correct form for a Kamehameha.

 

[Big Deano]

I give up, three seperate videos and you are still not budging.

Whatever you believe, thats the way I and many others always seen the kamehameha.

Btw, look at Gohan in the father-son pic, bearing in mind Goku isnt actually there. His form is the same.

 

[Anti-Wave Man]

I know what this supposed form is, those videos didn't further educate me.

I'm not trying to deny that people can fire the Kamehamaha in that fashion. What I'm trying to say is that they don't always have to do it like that.

Look, I know that the hands have to be clawed in that certain way, and that you have to join them at the wrists. I know that (usually) you pull back your cupped hands, charge up the wave, then thrust your hands forward and fire. I accept that. I'm not arguing that.

I'm arguing that the 'proper form' The_Philosopher described here

That's the proper form though (earth arm bent). In the anime, whenever they have both arms straight it's because they're breaking form typically in desperation, but a focused Kamehameha always has the earth arm bent while the heaven arm is straight.

Their chest is never supposed to face forward (towards their target). But instead, their chest should point away from their target, placing the arms to aim from the side of their body, which can only result from bending the earth arm (bottom arm)

is not actually a set routine. The arms can be straight or bent in any way really. And the torso does not have to face to the side.

I'm not trying to be unnecessarily stubborn, it's just that I have not seen any evidence in favor of what The_Philosopher said.

Are we using the same definition of "straight" here? I'm talking about bending at the elbows. If you are including the shoulders, then of course every Kamehameha will have bent arms.

 

[crisis]

Truth is Toriyama himself probably has no idea what the "proper" form the Kamehameha should be performed in, so there is no wrong or right answer. It's common knowledge he pretty much makes this stuff up as he goes, his writers/assistants even have to remind or correct him of some stuff he forgot or ignored from time to time

DB-DBZ-DBGT is inconsistent as it is

 

[Silrian]

I bet Toriyama would approach it from the actual practicality of it: would locked elbows matter so much? Would it matter per person, per moment in time, per person's mood?

Don't get why people fuss over this. No the SHF line isn't perfect articulation. We already knew that.

 

[Silrian]

16 march '15.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.834507866568380.1073742092.155435907808916&type=1

 

[Angelo2113]

...I feel bad now for asking that Kamehameha question. All forms seem correct/proper to me so I've been trying everything. I think I prefer trying to get the bottom of the palms together rather than open up, at least in the final form. With the left arm bent. Unless I have the energy ball to put in his hands while he's forming it.