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Ok, ive got a question for folks here; was just on a youtube video discussing whether king Kold is actually stronger than Frieza, and some of the comments were..... fascinating to say the least.

So here goes:

1. Do you think he is in his second form like Friezas, or is that his "max"

2. Do you think he is indeed stronger?

I answered yes to both and got flamed for it :lol apparently many people think he is both weaker than Frieza and at his max, which honestly I find ridiculous. He isnt the "king" of the Galaxy for nothing, if Frieza was stronger he would be king and probably just kill kold tbh, and he is clearly in what resembles 2nd form to me, he simply didnt feel the need to change much like Frieza on Namek.

So what do you folks think? Im actually curious as to the answer now after this youtube battle i found myself in :lol

Firstily, I believe Kold, like Frieza, also supresses his physical self to contain his strength. He probably doesn't have a "1st form" as small as Frieza's, or, he didn't feel the need to "deevolve" even further than what he already was. He was content with how he looked then. I believe that is a unique trait of Frieza's race; having the ability to shapeshift into lesser forms to conserve energy. Some can choose to do it more than others, with varying results (Frieza choosing to be in his 1st form for at least 2 decades, Cooler remaining in his original form with seemingly no desire to "supress" himself, perhaps even his ancestor Chilled feeling his child-like body was still more than enough to handle most situations, etc.)

Secondily, do I think Kold is stronger than Frieza? Probably, but not by much, for the same reason why Cooler wasn't that much stronger than Frieza. Yeah yeah I know he isn't "canon," but I'm using that example anyway. Cooler bragged about him attaining a 5th form, or more accurately, his original form but just maxing out his full strength which results in him growing armor-like appendages, much like Frieza bulking out when he's at max strength. But, despite Cooler transforming, like Frieza, he still wasn't able to defeat SSj Goku. So he couldn't have been that much stronger than his little brother, maybe like a couple digits power level-wise but that's it. SSj1 Goku pretty much dominated Transformed Cooler.

I perceive Kold the same way. Sure, he could've "maxed out" and he might be able to surpass his children, but not by much. I'm betting it would've been a very similar scenario of SSj Goku dominating if he fought Kold at his max power. I feel the entire "changeling" family was pretty much even in power levels, give or take. But really, there is no right or wrong answer to these questions, it's all subjective, due to how little we know of Frieza/Kold's history, we're just going by what we were given in the show/manga, which isn't very in-depth about their legacy.


I typed this with Ariana Grande song playing in the background, fyi
 
Thats solid crisis, but why then didn't he evolve after he sees is maxed out, even upgraded son being ****ed up like a fly?

That can go both ways: either he's way stronger and becomes arrogant, or he's so affraid he immediatly doesn't even consider his max power enough to defeat trunks and just hopes it's his sword.

Both is believable to me, but I feel more for the first. i think Cold is older and stronger than his children. That might even be why he's still around, cause I can easily see frieza offing him when he can.
 
Thats solid crisis, but why then didn't he evolve after he sees is maxed out, even upgraded son being ****ed up like a fly?

That can go both ways: either he's way stronger and becomes arrogant, or he's so affraid he immediatly doesn't even consider his max power enough to defeat trunks and just hopes it's his sword.

Both is believable to me, but I feel more for the first. i think Cold is older and stronger than his children. That might even be why he's still around, cause I can easily see frieza offing him when he can.

lol I have no idea, but like you said it could've been pure arrogance on Cold's part. Yeah he saw a Super Saiyan destroy his son right in front of his eyes, but maybe he felt he could still take him without transforming at all*? Frieza was also an arrogant SOB, a trait he most likely inherited. I'm guessing the first time Frieza transformed against Vegeta & co. on Namek, was the first time he had to transformed in literally decades since there was no one else in the galaxy brave enough to challenge him. Cold could be the same way; having been in his "second" form for so long, he doesn't feel the need to transform for beings he feels are "beneath" him even when they're standing right in front of him. I dunno lol

*random example, kinda like sometimes you see in viral videos of a bad rainstorm & the street is obviously flooded with a giant puddle of mud in the middle. You see cars trying to drive through it with no success & get stuck, but there's always that 1 douche that believes he could make it through if he just floors the gas pedal, instead of just going another way. Yet he ends up like the others. Poor example I know but it just popped in my head :lol
 
Regarding King Cold and Frieza, I honestly feel like Cold is stronger than Mecha Frieza (which is already much stronger than 100% Frieza on Namek) whether or not he has any other forms.

Now versus Trunks he was hardly intimidated even after Frieza was chopped into mince meat and blown to oblivion, although you can make the argument that he was just overconfident/stupid in thinking that Trunks' sword was the source of his both especially when he so agreeably handed it over to Cold.

Trunks killed Cold and Frieza in a very quick and brutal way that doesn't typically happen in DBZ but there are other examples of sneak attacks/sudden attacks that catch an opponent completely off guard but that doesn't necessarily mean they are weaker than the fighter who killed them.

Examples?
-Raditz. He was more powerful than Goku and Piccolo combined but after he got struck by Gohan, Goku and Piccolo capitalized and killed a more powerful foe. with teamwork/sacrifice.
-Yamcha vs that Saibaman...Yamcha handed him his ass but he got careless and was killed by a weaker opponent's kamikaze.
-Vegeta's tail. Yajirobe came out of nowhere.
-Guldo. Vegeta took advantage while Guldo was focused on Gohan and Krillin, just executing him before he knew what hit him.
-Krillin. Frieza didn't even give him a chance to fight back, wasted no time and took him out in a way he couldn't escape from.
-Dr. Gero. He couldn't even defend himself because 17 didn't let him, he took his head off before Gero could try to fight/escape.
-17, okay, he doesn't really die but Cell gets him off guard and absorbs him.
-Perfect Cell. He seemed to be winning against Gohan's kamehameha until Vegeta weakened him with a surprise attack, we know the rest...
-Goku vs. Majin Vegeta. Goku gets knocked clean out even though he had SS3 in reserve but he let his guard down and Vegeta hit him from behind. If Vegeta wanted he could have killed him right there (if he wasn't already dead).

So you don't necessarily have to be way stronger than someone to kill them quickly if you catch them off guard.
 
are you also one of the peeps that are waiting for a brown suited wolverine PF? they dont seem to make that one either huh? or did they by now?



yeah, huh. freddy ad jason are getting their third PF treatment. :(


here's some "news" about the new title of the movie

The New Dragon Ball Movie's Title Is Inspired by Heavy Metal -- Kotaku



i ****in loved the theme song they did for Death note \m/

Dude I don't know wth is the hold up with another wolverine PF, its been in the works for soooo long. I'm thinking since wolverines death in the comics they should jump on it and release one but more than likely they'll release one when he's brought back to life
Ok, ive got a question for folks here; was just on a youtube video discussing whether king Kold is actually stronger than Frieza, and some of the comments were..... fascinating to say the least.

So here goes:

1. Do you think he is in his second form like Friezas, or is that his "max"

2. Do you think he is indeed stronger?

I answered yes to both and got flamed for it :lol apparently many people think he is both weaker than Frieza and at his max, which honestly I find ridiculous. He isnt the "king" of the Galaxy for nothing, if Frieza was stronger he would be king and probably just kill kold tbh, and he is clearly in what resembles 2nd form to me, he simply didnt feel the need to change much like Frieza on Namek.

So what do you folks think? Im actually curious as to the answer now after this youtube battle i found myself in :lol
Im with u, he should be more powerful or freeza would have dethroned him, unless frieza has a hi regard for family.
Haha, ooh I just use the word troll casually for everyone who purposefully cons someone with an opposite unrealistic opinion than they actually have (different from sarcasm, as that's meant to actually come across as fake). Internet is full of trolls, but that was a funny gag and you caught me off guard, I can appreciate casual messing like that.:lol

Yeah then we're certainly cool mate.:duff: I didn't apologise for nothing, I was kinda bummed out seeing that message of you taking it that hard, but I should've known better :lol. Thanks for coming out about it though, a real troller would never do that and keep the facade going. Those people are just pathetic and annoying.

Uh Blood, am I missing something here (again)? Cause that theme was Frieza's ringtone in TFS...
Haha I here ya, I dislike people like that also. I honestly hate the most people who talk outta their ass about things they know nothing about.
 
Greetings friends :wave

Sorry Silrian, all I found were the pictures because the source does not mention the original source :(

Question 2, Which Ultimate Son Gohan looks better?

USonGohanMangaampAnime_zpsa1fb8c24.jpg

And the extra image:

UltimateSonGohanEnergy_zpsb4ac6b4e.jpg

See you later ;)
 
Greetings friends :wave

Sorry Silrian, all I found were the pictures because the source does not mention the original source :(

Question 2, Which Ultimate Son Gohan looks better?

USonGohanMangaampAnime_zpsa1fb8c24.jpg

And the extra image:

UltimateSonGohanEnergy_zpsb4ac6b4e.jpg

See you later ;)

Nice mock up. Both sets are fine.
 
Regarding King Cold and Frieza, I honestly feel like Cold is stronger than Mecha Frieza (which is already much stronger than 100% Frieza on Namek) whether or not he has any other forms.

Now versus Trunks he was hardly intimidated even after Frieza was chopped into mince meat and blown to oblivion, although you can make the argument that he was just overconfident/stupid in thinking that Trunks' sword was the source of his both especially when he so agreeably handed it over to Cold.

Trunks killed Cold and Frieza in a very quick and brutal way that doesn't typically happen in DBZ but there are other examples of sneak attacks/sudden attacks that catch an opponent completely off guard but that doesn't necessarily mean they are weaker than the fighter who killed them.

Examples?
-Raditz. He was more powerful than Goku and Piccolo combined but after he got struck by Gohan, Goku and Piccolo capitalized and killed a more powerful foe. with teamwork/sacrifice.
-Yamcha vs that Saibaman...Yamcha handed him his ass but he got careless and was killed by a weaker opponent's kamikaze.
-Vegeta's tail. Yajirobe came out of nowhere.
-Guldo. Vegeta took advantage while Guldo was focused on Gohan and Krillin, just executing him before he knew what hit him.
-Krillin. Frieza didn't even give him a chance to fight back, wasted no time and took him out in a way he couldn't escape from.
-Dr. Gero. He couldn't even defend himself because 17 didn't let him, he took his head off before Gero could try to fight/escape.
-17, okay, he doesn't really die but Cell gets him off guard and absorbs him.
-Perfect Cell. He seemed to be winning against Gohan's kamehameha until Vegeta weakened him with a surprise attack, we know the rest...
-Goku vs. Majin Vegeta. Goku gets knocked clean out even though he had SS3 in reserve but he let his guard down and Vegeta hit him from behind. If Vegeta wanted he could have killed him right there (if he wasn't already dead).

So you don't necessarily have to be way stronger than someone to kill them quickly if you catch them off guard.
If I may, Perfect Cell caught everyone off guard with his kamikaze attack as well. And his regeneration caught everyone (even himself) off guard too.
 
Is it just me or is that phony Tamashii stand that comes with DATONG scouter a complete POS? The base is wobbly, the claw arms pop off all the time and so does the anchor for the claws...


please, please, please tell me ACT 4 is the real deal because if they are anything like the counterfeits then i'll be hugely disappointed.
 
If I may, Perfect Cell caught everyone off guard with his kamikaze attack as well. And his regeneration caught everyone (even himself) off guard too.

Can I counter? Goku caught suicidal Cell off guard and made him kill (...) himself for no good reason.
 
Can I counter? Goku caught suicidal Cell off guard and made him kill (...) himself for no good reason.
Cell was going to die regardless, but true. Goku could have saved himself as well

He did catch King Kai, Gregory and Bubbles ( :( ) off guard too :lol
 
Is it just me or is that phony Tamashii stand that comes with DATONG scouter a complete POS? The base is wobbly, the claw arms pop off all the time and so does the anchor for the claws...


please, please, please tell me ACT 4 is the real deal because if they are anything like the counterfeits then i'll be hugely disappointed.

lol trust me, the real Stage Act 4's are nothing like the ones that come with the Datong. Buy the real deal & you'll notice the difference immediately.

I have 1 of my DBZ figures in a specific pose using the Stage Act 4, it's raised over 10 inches above the base & is perfectly steady. I can't reveal what scene it is exactly yet, tho.....
 
Cell was going to die regardless, but true. Goku could have saved himself as well

He did catch King Kai, Gregory and Bubbles ( :( ) off guard too :lol

Well Cell's goal was to destroy Earth so that was kind of a victory.

And yes, Gregory would have totally done in Cell in a fair fight lol.
 
Greetings friends :wave

Sorry Silrian, all I found were the pictures because the source does not mention the original source :(

Question 2, Which Ultimate Son Gohan looks better?

exactly what I've been waiting to see. I don't know if you saw my request post or not but this has all the modifications I wanted to see on Gohan. I would gladly buy multiple Gohans if they modified the outfit to look like that as that would also allow me to make a Buu Saga Goku. geez. I'm really going to be disappointed if it doesn't turn out like that, it looks so good.
 
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