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I've been following Dragon Ball since the early 90's. It's funny when the youngin's try to school us veterans :D
 
Weren't Trunks and Vegeta both Ascended Super Saiyans? Goku achieved it in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber but knew how disadvantageous it was where there had to be another level past that which is what he saw in Gohan.
 
Yay but it isn't its own thing it's just a ssj2 who can't keep their muscles the same and still have a higher power.


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It is its own thing. Trunks, Vegeta, etc. were considered "ascended" after training in the Room of Spirit & Time. Back in the day people would call it "Ultra Super Saiyajin" or whatever. Gohan was the first to achieve the true form, which is SSj2.
 
I don't understand how you think I'm trolling when goku clearly states it.


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Man, every single person here would disagree with you. Knowing your lore isnt about the size of your e-peen, its about knowing the right info from wrong or misinterpreted.

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I'm not misinterpreting anything I'm going by what's has been stated by the character himself. If everyone else wants to disagree with that than go ahead.


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Goku clearly says "a saiyan who has ascended past a super saiyan" that is different from the term "ascended ssj"

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Yay but it isn't its own thing it's just a ssj2 who can't keep their muscles the same and still have a higher power.


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Yeah, you just made that up dude. Never even heard anyone say that. Unless the dub you've seen is different. I know there's a lot of different dubs that have different dialogue throughout the years.
 
I really don't a ascended Saiyan is a ssj2 its been stated in the anime I don't get why you think I'm wrong but ok I guess


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Oh god, the horror I have wrought! I am so sorry.

I was simply just making a joke about Maijin Vegeta (Faces?) and threw in Vegeta's stupid form as a throw away joke!'



Not to continue this but shonen1234, you need to read more carefully. People are saying that Ascended SS is a specific term, while when Goku says he has 'ascended beyond SS' he is not actually saying he's becoming a Ascended SS, but rather that he has risen above the original SS form.

If English is your second language or something I apologize. It is a very complicated language and is ridiculously difficult to learn.
 
2nd grade super saiyan

Alternate names
Ascended Super Saiyan
Ascendant form[1]
Ascended Saiyan[2]
Super Saiyan 1.5
Super Saiyan 1 Stage 2
Super Saiyan 2nd Grade
Super Saiyan Grade II[3]
ASSJ
ASS
Power Stressed

Taken straight from the wiki which has its info from the Daizenshuu, which is the OFFICIAL book of info on all things dragonball.

Sorry, but I had to do it.

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I really don't a ascended Saiyan is a ssj2 its been stated in the anime I don't get why you think I'm wrong but ok I guess


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You're not "wrong," just misinformed. I understand people interpret things in different ways, so it's hard for you to understand what everyone else is saying when you think you're right therefore we must all be wrong.
 
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