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You're not "wrong," just misinformed. I understand people interpret things in different ways, so it's hard for you to understand what everyone else is saying when you think you're right therefore we must all be wrong.
Well stated crisis :lecture not to mention, why would SSJ2 be called 'ascended', but SSJ and SSJ3 are just called, well, SSJ and SSJ3 respectively? Vegeta's buff SSJ form is also known as 1st grade SSJ too but same thing. Toriyama himself called SSJ2 SSJ2.
 
If the form doesn't have a number after Super Saiyan, it's a side/partial form. In all the media for DB, they NEVER call a SS2 character Ascended Super Saiyan.
 
Goku literally did when showing it to buu, plus if your going to use DB wiki as an official source than so am I.


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Queue Supernaturaladdict rant about having to read pages again :lol

Personally, i'm done, theres no use trying on this anymore. It's clear he has a different perspective to us on forms, no point arguing.
 
It's not a different perspective it's just the way the form has been used. Wiki calls it 2 different things, the anime calls it another.


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Goku literally did when showing it to buu, plus if your going to use DB wiki as an official source than so am I.


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He doesnt bloody say that! He says "ascended past that of a super saiyan" that is very different from saying he is an ascended saiyan. Thats where the misinterpretation comes from.
 
Man, every single person here would disagree with you. Knowing your lore isnt about the size of your e-peen, its about knowing the right info from wrong or misinterpreted.

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Because it seems to be all you have shonen :lol
 
He doesnt bloody say that! He says "ascended past that of a super saiyan" that is very different from saying he is an ascended saiyan. Thats where the misinterpretation comes from.

He's taking one line of dialogue WAY too seriously, when everywhere outside of that scene (games/guidebooks) describes Super Saiyan 2... as Super ****ing Saiyan 2 :dunno :lol
 
He's taking one line of dialogue WAY too seriously, when everywhere outside of that scene (games/guidebooks) describes Super Saiyan 2... as Super ****ing Saiyan 2 :dunno :lol
This kind of **** is exactly why this thread gets no respect in other forums, no joke :lol
 
I don't understand how you think I'm trolling when goku clearly states it.

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Ascended Super Saiyan Goku

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Super Saiyan 2 Goku

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Throughout the entire series of Z, the hair has been the BIGGEST indicator of Super Saiyan transformations. You can clearly see that Super Saiyan Ascended Goku still has his Super Saiyan 1 hair style.
 
Ascended Super Saiyan Goku


Super Saiyan 2 Goku

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Throughout the entire series of Z, the hair has been the BIGGEST indicator of Super Saiyan transformations. You can clearly see that Super Saiyan Ascended Goku still has his Super Saiyan 1 hair style.
Thank you angelo. Well stated and well done. Hair is the main indicator if the Saiyan's body doesn't change otherwise.

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Shame he's gonna just ignore your post cause kids today...they never learn :dunno
 
I'm not ignoring post I've read ever single one about this issue , I've been trying to get my side of of it all to gether, sorry that it's taking a moment.


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No you are in fact ignoring posts, because you're using the same argument over and over, that one piece of dialogue.
 
Oh god, the horror I have wrought! I am so sorry.

I was simply just making a joke about Maijin Vegeta (Faces?) and threw in Vegeta's stupid form as a throw away joke!'



Not to continue this but shonen1234, you need to read more carefully. People are saying that Ascended SS is a specific term, while when Goku says he has 'ascended beyond SS' he is not actually saying he's becoming a Ascended SS, but rather that he has risen above the original SS form.

If English is your second language or something I apologize. It is a very complicated language and is ridiculously difficult to learn.

:lol I understood it was a joke and I had a feeling some wouldn't. What have you done!?!

It's not a different perspective it's just the way the form has been used. Wiki calls it 2 different things, the anime calls it another.


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Like everyone's said already, Ascended Saiyan IS NOT Super Saiyan 2. The ONLY person to achieve Super Saiyan 2 at the end of the Cell Saga was Gohan. Not gonna list any reasons or proof, since the prior posts have UNDOUBTEDLY proved it without a shadow of a doubt. Why are we being so argumentative, s***
 
As long as he comes with his looking down smiling face Ida about the rest.


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