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[FSLAR]

Its one thing seeing GT as non canon, but any part that has a manga is canon, even the bad stuff.

People always hold the Android/Cell saga in such high regard but lets be honest, it was as rushed as the Buu saga was, the only difference was it was more serious toned. Dont get me wrong I love all the sagas, but apart from a few select fights (of which the Buu saga has too) its no different.

In any case, I dont think Super is all that bad tbh, its actually coming across better than I had hoped.

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I agree, the Cell saga is better developed but both sagas still have issues. The Buu Saga gets my points for closing the arc on a lot of characters, like Gohan finding his future wife and then starting his own family, Vegeta for accepting Goku is better than him and realizing his love for his family, Goku for ending all his fights and staying with his family, etc.

Honestly, I think Super should focus on Goten and Trunks, perhaps a little on Gohan too. We've seen everything with Goku and Vegeta at this point, anything on Goten and Trunks would be good. A reboot could be interesting, I'd love to see other things like as I mentioned once, Future Trunks and Kid Gohan's developing friendship.

 

[blogness]

Made some more progress on Trunks:

 

[Silrian]

That's why I'm in favor of a Dragon Ball "reboot" with a more mature and conjoined storyline that aids with that "sense of urgency" that is missing in the series with all the power-up's and easy resurrections. I think a lot of Dragon Ball's fans have grown up and with all the mature and adult-oriented animes on TV, we can "handle" a more mature Dragon Ball. I wrote a synopsis of what I believe would be an awesome Dragon Ball reboot on another forum:

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That's all I got so far...I haven't thought much further past the Namek saga.[/I]

I also threw in a "Dragon Ball origin" story
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That has cool elements for sure, but I wouldn't want a dbz reboot, retelling, re-whatever. It's a show from my youth and I wanna keep it that way. Concerning the origin of dragonballs... Well wait for what DBS will bring if you haven't read Manga chapter 6...

Overall I think it's good Toriyama (and/or that other writer who actually writes the manga I think) is going into new directions in terms of places and characters. I think the lore expansion is good. Egyption styled cat-gods of destruction? Hell yes. I just find it annoying that DBS is TOO absurd, which trivialises it too much. There's no cool factor left if things get so idiotic. Mostly the God's motivation being food, I mean... Come on. Can't they actually like have any type of more serious layer to them? Then I'd be fine. The macguffin isn't even funny to me, just dumb. Between the innuendos and martial arts wisdom DB is more adult than DBS. Like, really? It's just too bad. I hope it'll get some edge back down the road. Not getting my hopes up though. But still the most is yet to come so.... Otherwise DB/DBZ is what it is for me, a phenomenon from my youth that I still love. I don't really want anything to mess with that because it's clear that it won't have the same feel as it did back then. New things I'm fine with, or simply unengaged by. And DBS is dangling to the side of unengaged right now for me.

This franchise has a colossal measure of characters etc with untapped potential in a serious sense and they don't seem to ever get that out so. Whatever. I'd like a series set in the future where Trunks and Goten are the main characters, that's a bit more serious, and their fathers are like galactic legends that pop up or need to be found or whatever. Goten would be what most gohan fans wanted gohan to be and Trunks fans will get a slightly tweaked future Trunks back. That's a series I'd want.A next gen that is about as serious as in between Namek and Android saga, two teens with legends as fathers that are busy with **** on galactic scale. I guess later on Pan would join them so we finally have a female fighter. (Rather than the stupid DBGT.) Powerlevels would shift a bit back to T&G's level, Piccolo could tag along a few times. But when they finally reach their fathers, they have become mother****in epic gods and they have to get themselves up to that level too or something. Something like that would be great for me.

Granted, to a partial extent DBS could still do this. Just ****ing, god, dial back the absurd idiocy a bit. Even a bunny mobster is less ridiculous than Gods fighting over pudding.

Get me Tien, a different adult gohan, buu era vegeta, kid buu and ssj 3 goku and I am done. I think we can forget about bojack Trunks now. Oh yeah and if they release Blood's muse I'll buy that too. And maybe battle damaged releases.


Great picture Havok!

 

[Silrian]

Beyond anything I am done with Goku, and partly also Vegeta as the main character. I'd love it way more if at the later stage Goku and Vegeta futured in a Trunks&Goten series as the most EPIC mofos, after we haven't seen them for a long time.

I'd love that series as a 'quest for goku', where he only pops up at the end as a legendary pokemon lmao. Vegeta, Piccolo and Gohan could enter the fray at about halfway, and they all have to fight through a bunch of **** to find Goku who has been captured or whatever by some uber enemy.

I love Goku, but he's had his time. I'm tired of him as the main character.

 

[Bardoon]

Beyond anything I am done with Goku, and partly also Vegeta as the main character. I'd love it way more if at the later stage Goku and Vegeta futured in a Trunks&Goten series as the most EPIC mofos, after we haven't seen them for a long time.

I'd love that series as a 'quest for goku', where he only pops up at the end as a legendary pokemon lmao. Vegeta, Piccolo and Gohan could enter the fray at about halfway, and they all have to fight through a bunch of **** to find Goku who has been captured or whatever by some uber enemy.

I love Goku, but he's had his time. I'm tired of him as the main character.

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I haven't been FULLY following DBS but I know roughly that characters are getting ready for a tournament involving fighters from other universes and something involving planet-sized Dragon Balls (which is pretty cool).

Along the lines of what you're saying, it would actually be great if after the tournament, Goku and Vegeta "disappear" or are trapped somewhere for a while...allowing some of the other characters like Gohan, Goten and Trunks to perhaps be the Earth protectors for a story arc or at least go off and "search" for Goku. Some people crap on Dragon Ball GT, but at least aside from Goku we had two "fresh" secondary main characters in Pan and Trunks and it was a nice change of pace from the usual suspects.

However, DBS appears to still be 'trapped' in the circular style of writing and focusing too much on Goku......again. We'll see how things go now that they're moving onto the NEW storylines.

 

[Silrian]

Might wanna spoiler tag that Bardoon, cause the anime isn't at that point yet...

I concede that point regarding GT, but because I find the story and designs and almost everything else lacking, that sort of false flat too for me.

 

[crisis]

@Silrian what's even more absurd is the fact that Freeza trains for only 4 months and is instantly strong enough to compete with SSGSS (granted it was obvious Goku was just toying with him throughout the fight, he could've easily ended it in the first couple minutes with a 10x Kamehameha).. i understand he's a prodigy so he never had to lift a finger his whole life, but sheesh. If I had to choose, I would've had it so Sorbet used 1 of his wishes to instantly make Freeza's strength near Beerus-level, thus explaining his "Golden" form. oh well

@Bardoon GT kinda did exactly what you described; at the conclusion of the series if you recall Goku absorbed the Dragon Balls & departed with Shenron to whereabouts unknown. We still don't know where it is that Shenron is summoned from, that might've been a cool premise had they made a continuation of GT

 

[crisis]

by the way, would it be fair to start categorizing Super into "sagas" like DBZ yet? For instance, we already been through the Beerus/Battle of Gods Saga, are currently in the "Golden Freeza" Saga, and the Champa Saga is next

 

[FatHotei]

My review of Awakening Goku is up folks! Thumbnail will be fixed when I get home, forgot to set it to the custom one when I left the PC this morning [emoji14]



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Nice review, Deano, as always.

As to your query, the reason Awakened Goku has a silver sticker instead of a gold is because he's a regular release. Only Japanese web exclusives have gold stickers.

 

[prodigy1367]

@Sil, you hit the nail on the head. The series has always had potential and the characters as well but Toryiyama continues with the same ol "Goku is the super amazing awesome hero" bit. Unfortunately now we see that the passing of the torch will not go to Gohan. This can change but I really doubt it will. Trunks and Goten should logically be the next in line but I believe you pointed out earlier that they are essentially a comedic duo now. Seeing as with the tournament coming up, they won't be involved, I would say that they are gonna stay in that role for the foreseeable future. The last episode supports this as well with the pathetic excuse for a "battle".

I will give credit to Tori for at least giving Vegeta the same level as Goku. Who knows if this will continue but for now it is so. I feel the rest of the series will be the Goku and Vegeta adventures since events seem to be unfolding as such. Also the tone will never be like it was in DBZ since currently it's clearly focusing on humor with action wrapped around it instead of the other way around like DBZ. DB was a great mixture of both elements and DBZ was the natural progression of the story and the change in tone was appropriate. Now we have DBS which comes across as some sloppy hybrid with forced humor, convoluted plot devices and even more inconsistencies. While it's too early to judge the series, as it stands now, it needs a lot of work.

 

[Silrian]

@crisis yeah well, honestly I see frieza's revival as NOTHING BUT commerciality. Absolutly redundant. So from that angle I' like, yeah just cheap bs ****. RoF was all but a DBS ad. I kindof feel like ignoring the whole thing entirely. If they get back to it in the series, I'll try tackling the logic then, but for now it's onebig effing WHATEVER for me.

I think I'd classify the entire dbs bunch up to when frieza is defeated as the 'super saiyin god saga'. Frieza's basically a dummy for them to sho teir new power on. After that I'm not sure if we should call it the champa or the tournament saga. I think Champa will be involved over multiple sagas cause these gods seem to be here to stay, each universe has one, we know the centre duo, 6 beerus, + champa his mirror. We don't know 1+ 12-mirror, 2+ 11-mirror and so on, or if those are siblings. I like that multiverse thing with the 13 rule, really wonder how that'll pan out and what forces might come that surpass beerus and champa. Toriyama said he had a ton of chars to design so we'll see. With earth being destroyed in Champa's U7, I really wonder whether we'll see vegeta or frieza mirrors. Or a certain other person who was surprisingly tagged for this tournament.

Also, who are the kai mirrors? If you're gonna expand it at least toriyama did it fairly creatively. That does make it entertaining at least.

 

[Silrian]

@prod dont remember me saying t&g remain the comic duo, but true nonethless probably. On the tournament:

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Aside from goku and vegeta, I can't believe the other contestants are piccolo and buu. The former I ****ing love cause hes in my top 3 faves, and I will love just seeing oku together ith his biggest too arch nemesis turned good. Buuis si surprising... But orta interesting, there has to be so ething more to that. And smart pick actually, highly indestructble. And who will that final contestant be, really curious.

 

[crisis]

shoulda been Uub, he IS his reincarnation after all

1 more criticism I have and perhaps we should move on (we have been reeming out DBZ/Super for its flaws quite a bit now lol), in ep22, as soon as Gohan or whoever take a few hits, they automatically eat a Senzu Bean. Come on fellas, that's all it takes? The Senzu was supposed to be used as an absolute last resort, only when you're near-death, paralyzed, etc. These dudes were barely putting up a fight & once they got punched in the stomach they were like "OWW I NEED A SENZU".. it was hilarious & sad at the same time

it's also kinda paints the protagonists as cheaters since the bad guys weren't using any "performance enhancers" at all. show us your strength through sheer will even when you're getting pounded on, rather than resort to eating a Senzu, not really a fair fight that way. Gohan is a Saiyan, he shouldn't be going down so easily despite his lack of training

 

[prodigy1367]

@prod dont remember me saying t&g remain the comic duo, but true nonethless probably. On the tournament:

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Aside from goku and vegeta, I can't believe the other contestants are piccolo and buu. The former I ****ing love cause hes in my top 3 faves, and I will love just seeing oku together ith his biggest too arch nemesis turned good. Buuis si surprising... But orta interesting, there has to be so ething more to that. And smart pick actually, highly indestructble. And who will that final contestant be, really curious.

It wasn't that exact wording but something along those lines. Anyways, I do think the alternate universe thing could pan out really well of its done right. I just don't wanna see more Vados and Champa's if you catch my drift. I wanna see fresh newly designed characters and not just palette swaps or slimmed/fattened versions of existing ones.

I'm gotta say I'm REALLY excited to see Picollo back in the fold too. I think it's very possible that he can attain a godlike power same as Vegeta and Goku, only a Namekian version of course. As for Buu, I couldn't care less. His character is annoying now and this was always my least favorite form of his. Now if he ends up absorbing someone and transforming on the other hand...that could be very interesting.


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[crisis]

tellin ya it should've been Uub, the first (& unfortunately only) "black" Z Warrior, the cast needs more diversity

 

[prodigy1367]

Uub's definitely middle eastern. His village looks like it and his outfit matches it too. Also Majin Buu's got that middle eastern vibe going on too. Actually he may even be Indian or Pakistani, but black he is not. We all know how Toriyama draws black people and he makes it very obvious even if it does come across racist at times.

 

[Bardoon]

Just got billed by MHToyShop for SSJ Awakening Goku.

Wow...they were on-point with getting this figure out.

 

[ShaneX]

Just got billed by MHToyShop for SSJ Awakening Goku.

Wow...they were on-point with getting this figure out.

Whoa. I ordered him with them as well. Thought they'd get their stock by the 31st :O

Woo. Hopefully I get the email soon

 

[abouttreefitty]

Toyz shipped my Awakening Goku!

 

[Adeno]

Go go go Toyz in the Box, my Awakening Goku is also gonna arrive soon, probably this week hehe Too bad I ordered my two Gokus separately, only my first order's gonna be sent and the other one will most likely be shipped later, oh well