S.H.FiguArts Dragonball Z figures!!!

[misterW]

That's a slippery slope Tamashii is on... more & more people will start to notice the paint quality somewhat declining, thus leading to sales for a certain character(s) not meeting their expectations, and they won't know why

yup and then theyll conclude that it must because no one is interested anymore and will be back to web ex or d/c'ed x_x i mean clearly it's not because of poor decisions or quality (ie gohan figures) right guys?

 

[Adeno]

Sorry, just had to do it lol I'm still getting this one since I missed out on the original haha I'm just glad he's not Mustard Goku anymore despite the awkward smile.

 

[prodigy1367]

I've been thinking there's a pretty good chance we may get a 2.0 of the RoF/U6 Tournament attire figures of Goku and Vegeta. The tournament is currently underway in the dub and it would be a great time to release those two again along with probably Frost and Hit as the villain counterparts. If they do get redone I hope they come with these faces as options

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[Silrian]

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Riiight, yeah don't mind the noise I'm just climbing on the fence again...

@Cooler lmao.

 

[Angelo2113]

That photo of the Super Saiyan 3 Goku smirk face really isn't that good. This is from the Out of da Box video review and it looks as expected in a final product compared to the prototype photo. (Edited: I'm curious to know if the Out of da Box figure is a final product or a prototype that Tamashii Nations sends out. Distribuidora Animéxico usually uploads these videos a lot earlier.)

i feel like tien and yamcha are gonna be fine. Nappa seems okayish although a bit undersized and not in the form most wanted. For some reason with popular characters (goku, trunks, vegeta) lately tamashii seems to like putting minimal effort into them, or as minimal as they can get. I feel like they have the mentality that theyre gonna sell anyway and therefore put less effort into it unlike obscure figures like tien and yamcha where they have to bring more of the A game or it wont any hope of selling more than it should.

I disagree that they're putting minimal effort into the newer S.H.Figuarts releases. (Figuarts Zero is a different story.) The updated sculpting and articulation is phenomenal and makes the older releases obsolete. The main thing that is severely lacking is paint application and that is mostly due to this line being produced very differently than it was earlier. Having months between scheduled releases benefited the paint application process and hopefully they decide to go back to that in 2018. Especially if they feel that has hurt their sales.

Hatchiyack would be awesome but he's as likely as the farmer with the shotgun tbh. He only had that one short lived appearance (cool as it was) and not many know who he is. I'd take Janemba over him any day

Janemba is extremely popular which still surprises me.

That's a slippery slope Tamashii is on... more & more people will start to notice the paint quality somewhat declining, thus leading to sales for a certain character(s) not meeting their expectations, and they won't know why

They'll know exactly why. They know what they're sacrificing for faster production but they're not oblivious to feedback either. It's not very helpful that negative feedback is said on Facebook groups or forums. They're a very small portion of the overall market but it's up to the collectors themselves to make sure that Tamashii Nations hears their feedback if they hope for any change in future releases.

 

[Angelo2113]

Well that didn't take long...

 

[misterW]

the OTD one def looks better, actually in fact i was really impressed by the figure from the OTD review, so i really hope that's what most of the figures turn out like, and that those other photos were just bad photos.

Also i didnt mean actual minimal effort, i meant as minimal as they CAN be, ofcourse the new molds are great, there's no doubt about that. Lately it's always a mixed bag w/dbz releases though. Certain things are great, and then for some reason they make confusing decisions, and it seems to be only a problem with DBZ line. Other lines come out w/quality figures time after time. Then again it could be as you said, it's possibly due to their sped up release schedule vs in the old days we had months and months at a time before releases so more care was given to the figures. I just get the feeling that for some reason in this line, they really dial it in when they can vs their other lines, but it could be contributed to the same reason. But i can recognize how some of it isnt entirely their fault (ie everyone and their mama wearing the same orange gi etc). I have no doubt though that tien and yamcha will have a higher quality touch to them vs Nappa, SSG goku, and SS3 goku (like most of nappa is matte finish and then his head is glossy plastic, although im just gonna say because he's bald? lol i know that's not the true reason though). Although it could be because theyre web EX and the other 3 are regular releases?

Also, on the topic of SSG goku im still on the fence with that one and leaning towards skipping, we all know the issue by now. What are your guys opinions about it? The headsculpt looks great and the faces too, and definitely the hair is a good sculpt to be repainted black for normal goku (ie goku black) i also feel because of the detail it's kind of superior to the OG normal goku hair, but both sculpts give a different aesthetic. I might just end up getting it to go with beerus or just to have an SSG goku but idk, i have a strong feeling theyre just gonna release the same one again but painted as normal goku or something lol

almost forgot to mention, that's a really good paint job on nappa! Strong chance that either him or kid goku will be the SDCC EX next year haha

 

[Angelo2113]

the OTD one def looks better, actually in fact i was really impressed by the figure from the OTD review, so i really hope that's what most of the figures turn out like, and that those other photos were just bad photos.

Also i didnt mean actual minimal effort, i meant as minimal as they CAN be, ofcourse the new molds are great, there's no doubt about that. Lately it's always a mixed bag w/dbz releases though. Certain things are great, and then for some reason they make confusing decisions, and it seems to be only a problem with DBZ line. Other lines come out w/quality figures time after time. Then again it could be as you said, it's possibly due to their sped up release schedule vs in the old days we had months and months at a time before releases so more care was given to the figures. I just get the feeling that for some reason in this line, they really dial it in when they can vs their other lines, but it could be contributed to the same reason. But i can recognize how some of it isnt entirely their fault (ie everyone and their mama wearing the same orange gi etc). I have no doubt though that tien and yamcha will have a higher quality touch to them vs Nappa, SSG goku, and SS3 goku (like most of nappa is matte finish and then his head is glossy plastic, although im just gonna say because he's bald? lol i know that's not the true reason though). Although it could be because theyre web EX and the other 3 are regular releases?

Also, on the topic of SSG goku im still on the fence with that one and leaning towards skipping, we all know the issue by now. What are your guys opinions about it? The headsculpt looks great and the faces too, and definitely the hair is a good sculpt to be repainted black for normal goku (ie goku black) i also feel because of the detail it's kind of superior to the OG normal goku hair, but both sculpts give a different aesthetic. I might just end up getting it to go with beerus or just to have an SSG goku but idk, i have a strong feeling theyre just gonna release the same one again but painted as normal goku or something lol

almost forgot to mention, that's a really good paint job on nappa! Strong chance that either him or kid goku will be the SDCC EX next year haha

Yeah, I can really only judge the figure in better quality photos. I've taken many low quality* photos of certain releases like Broly and Super Warrior Awakening Goku and it does no favor to the product themselves. I'm extremely curious about the final Super Saiyan 3 product and I'll be seeing it soon so hopefully I'll be impressed with it as I am with the better quality photos and videos.

My mistake about that. I agree about certain decisions being very questionable. (For example, Super Saiyan (2) Gohan. It's a great figure with some faults like the knees and the ankle articulation and while it's great to have an S.H.Figuarts version, why wasn't it released in the Figuarts Zero line? Especially when they made it specifically with the Final Kamahameha in mind? Again, it's a great product, but I think a better decision would have been Super Saiyan 2 1st appearance. It allows for more scenes to be reenacted with Perfect Cell.) I have noticed that the quality of other lines has really grown and could considerably overshadow the Dragon Ball Z line in regards to quality. Which is a shame because this is Tamashii Nation's biggest line in the Western Market. Again, I'm hoping they're considering the collector's feedback and reevaluating what's important to collectors and we'll notice a difference in 2018.

Tien and Yamcha will hopefully be released with great quality. For some reason, I can't imagine a major difference between prototype and final product other than the usual and expected changes like the sculpt to print lines on the faces. I'm really hoping they sculpt Yamcha's scars though. I think I would be most disappointed if they ended up being printed lines. Tien might have the glossy plastic as well but maybe not if Tamashii Nations hears enough feedback. I'll have to wait until my Nappa is delivered in a few weeks because I've heard that some releases have it while others don't. I'm not sure how they would differ though. Nappa is a Web Exclusive and there seems to be quite a few quality control issues so I don't know if the production of Web Exclusive/Regular Releases would come into play but it's certainly a possibility.

Super Saiyan God Goku. I like that they're using the originally designed Goku arms, and as you mentioned the head sculpt and faces are great, but they needed to work on the chest/torso piece. I don't think I have that much of a problem with the legs being the same but the chest is too far out. I think it would have had an overall better appearance. This is certainly one of those situations where the original designed prototype was better than the newly designed prototype. That is a very lazy decision by Tamashii Nations and I'm sure that's going to come back to bite them now that Super Saiyan God is a recurring transformation.

Edited: I'm going on a rant with Figuarts Zero Super Saiyan Gogeta and Super Saiyan Vegito. Two great characters with amazingly detailed energy effects and surroundings...only to be brought completely down by the face sculpts. What. The. ****. That style of design is no where near Dragon Ball Z. It's even worse when considering the source material they used was from the Dragon Ball Z Dokkan Battle artwork and they wen't against it for the face sculpts. If they had the accurate face designs, they would have been some of the best quality releases in Tamashii Nation's Dragon Ball Z Character Categories.

 

[misterW]

@angelo oh man totally agree, and as much as i want yamcha's scars to be sculpted it's more likely it will be deco sadly lol And i totally agree on ss2 gohan, it's only accurate for the one pose and that's it, the retooled ss2 head and faces are wonderful (much better and more accurate than OG), as well as the new ss1 faces (glad it fits on the old body though). But yeah i really wanted the new ss2 gohan to be 1st appearance ss2, they couldve named it SWA gohan. He would still have tattered clothing and ripped pants at the knees.

totally forgot that nappa was actually webEX as well! Yeah, im glad their QC isnt as bad as Mafex (where every figure you buy is a gamble now) but, nowadays i find myself worried when i pick up a PO for a dbz figure. Even on scouter 2.0 there was QC stuff that bluefin tried to jip me on at SDCC; obvious paint chips that they tried to pass off as reflection on the package, but i kept at it and got one with no chip. Im glad i havent heard of anyone else getting the figure with those problems, so it couldve just been an isolated incident in QC.

Yeah i feel like they really shot themselves in the foot with SSG goku, idk why they went with that besides maybe pressure from higher ups to have ALL figures with new 2.0 designs. If that was the case though, they couldve just used the hips and legs and kept the rest, although SSG form the boots do look different, skinnier with the red lining looking bigger and more cartoony (the prototype nailed it). I mean at the least they couldve used the sleeves they had on the prototype which gave it that flowy look. ATM it's also tempting for me because i can get a really great PO price on it from my local shop as well, but that's also probably thanks to how simple the figure actually is haha Really cant wait to see people repaint the head and put it on the SS3 2.0 body or something lol

 

[Angelo2113]

@angelo oh man totally agree, and as much as i want yamcha's scars to be sculpted it's more likely it will be deco sadly lol And i totally agree on ss2 gohan, it's only accurate for the one pose and that's it, the retooled ss2 head and faces are wonderful (much better and more accurate than OG), as well as the new ss1 faces (glad it fits on the old body though). But yeah i really wanted the new ss2 gohan to be 1st appearance ss2, they couldve named it SWA gohan. He would still have tattered clothing and ripped pants at the knees.

totally forgot that nappa was actually webEX as well! Yeah, im glad their QC isnt as bad as Mafex (where every figure you buy is a gamble now) but, nowadays i find myself worried when i pick up a PO for a dbz figure. Even on scouter 2.0 there was QC stuff that bluefin tried to jip me on at SDCC; obvious paint chips that they tried to pass off as reflection on the package, but i kept at it and got one with no chip. Im glad i havent heard of anyone else getting the figure with those problems, so it couldve just been an isolated incident in QC.

Yeah i feel like they really shot themselves in the foot with SSG goku, idk why they went with that besides maybe pressure from higher ups to have ALL figures with new 2.0 designs. If that was the case though, they couldve just used the hips and legs and kept the rest, although SSG form the boots do look different, skinnier with the red lining looking bigger and more cartoony (the prototype nailed it). I mean at the least they couldve used the sleeves they had on the prototype which gave it that flowy look. ATM it's also tempting for me because i can get a really great PO price on it from my local shop as well, but that's also probably thanks to how simple the figure actually is haha Really cant wait to see people repaint the head and put it on the SS3 2.0 body or something lol

Well, it's interesting, because I've been back and forth with the scars. On one side I'm expecting only printing but on the other I'm hopeful for sculpting. I understand why they don't sculpt the lines under the eyes for the final product but I feel Yamcha's scars should be no different than an ear sculpt with the fine lines. The question I've been curious about is, if they are sculpted, would it be best to add shade to them similar to the ears or leave them plain? I'm not sure if I'm confident enough about Tamashii Nation's current paint application.

I've seen quite a few collectors very excited to see the Super Saiyan 2 Gohan/Perfect Cell Kamehameha display but I always question would it have been different with the 1st transformation design? Would it excite more collectors? I certainly know it would have given the collector more options for displaying not only him but Perfect Cell as well.

Mafex has come a long way. I've been ignoring their releases for quite awhile but it's become very tempting with their newer releases and reveals. Yeah, luckily there doesn't seem to be a lot of problems with Scouter Vegeta. Especially paint chips.

I'm putting it towards decisions that were lazy and allowed for shortcuts. At the time of its release, the only thing that will be new is the head and face sculpts. I still actually like the product but it's one of those situations where it's not as good as it should have been. I would argue that this will be considered as their laziest release in the entire line due to the design of the product not matching the design of the artwork. Yeah, I'm expecting them to re-use the head for a Goku release. I wouldn't mind that though since it would be great to have a normal Goku with the Dragon Ball Super gi. It'll definitely be an easy release for Tamashii Nations but it will be one of those releases that will have no excuse on why it doesn't include a great amount of accessories since 95% of the product is already competed.

 

[misterW]

@angelo i think if they sculpt the scars it may be kind of light, like when they do angry veins on vegeta's sculpts , if that's the case i dont mind if it's not detailed in, i would do it myself as i dont trust them with it lol Like with some of the other figures (SSB goku smirk face) they dont even line the mouth, so i lined it myself.

Good point on people being excited for that version of gohan. It's cool to have a poseable figure like that, but since it's not versatile, most of the time it will be displayed in that one pose, i have it in that same pose myself! Although, i put the ss1 head with the screaming transformation face on my SDCC gohan, looks pretty good actually. it was a pretty big part of the Cell saga and very iconic, so it makes sense people would be excited. I think it was probably a hard decision internally for them, if they went with SWA type, then people may have complained they cant put it accurately in the father-son pose, and vice versa with the current situation. I really doubt theyll take another crack at cell saga gohan anytime soon as well, so that's all we got unfortunately.

Ive also heard mafex has improved, but dang their stuff takes so damn long to come out that i just forget about them and check once in awhile haha

As far as reusing SSG goku for normal goku i would also expect more things to be included with it, i bet theyll reuse the kamehamema charge effect again! We'll see though, as far as goku is concerned, getting more figures of him is only a matter of time, he's always almost guaranteed, everyone else is up in the air.

on a side note: my holy grail figure is future gohan, among any other character they could make, that one is on the top of my list!

 

[Ssj3_Vegeta]

The poster you guys are talking about always over-lights their videos so I wouldn't get too freaked out until people have the figure in hand.

 

[Angelo2113]

@angelo i think if they sculpt the scars it may be kind of light, like when they do angry veins on vegeta's sculpts , if that's the case i dont mind if it's not detailed in, i would do it myself as i dont trust them with it lol Like with some of the other figures (SSB goku smirk face) they dont even line the mouth, so i lined it myself.

Good point on people being excited for that version of gohan. It's cool to have a poseable figure like that, but since it's not versatile, most of the time it will be displayed in that one pose, i have it in that same pose myself! Although, i put the ss1 head with the screaming transformation face on my SDCC gohan, looks pretty good actually. it was a pretty big part of the Cell saga and very iconic, so it makes sense people would be excited. I think it was probably a hard decision internally for them, if they went with SWA type, then people may have complained they cant put it accurately in the father-son pose, and vice versa with the current situation. I really doubt theyll take another crack at cell saga gohan anytime soon as well, so that's all we got unfortunately.

Ive also heard mafex has improved, but dang their stuff takes so damn long to come out that i just forget about them and check once in awhile haha

As far as reusing SSG goku for normal goku i would also expect more things to be included with it, i bet theyll reuse the kamehamema charge effect again! We'll see though, as far as goku is concerned, getting more figures of him is only a matter of time, he's always almost guaranteed, everyone else is up in the air.

That's true. I forgot that they wouldn't stand out as well in a final product similar to those examples. Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Goku and Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Vegeta faces were nicely sculpted but I remember that certain faces, such as the smirking faces, were hardly noticeable. All of that detail completely unnoticeable.

I'll have to try putting the new Super Saiyan Gohan head on the older body. I didn't even think of it being compatible given certain recent releases not being compatible. Yeah, I don't imagine Tamashii Nations will be going back to Cell Saga Gohan. ...Well, with our luck, maybe they'll do a Figuarts Zero or Figuarts Zero EX version of when he first transforms into Super Saiyan 2.

Yeah, I don't keep track of Mafex releases. I noticed that Rogue One Vader was released. It is quite surprising to see how far they've come over the past couple of years though. From The Dark Knight Trilogy releases to now? Really impressive.

Accessories are something that I would like to see Tamashii Nations spend more focus and experimentation on. Especially energy effects. I know at the World Tour Event in New York City, on of their questions was what type of accessories would we like to see and it included light-up energy effects. They looked pretty cool at Tamashii Nations Event last year and maybe if they redesign the effect, it'll look amazing. Side characters like Saibaman and Chiaotzu are great accessories for Yamcha and Tien. I mentioned before that I think toddler Gohan would be a great accessories for Saiyan Saga Goku. I've been trying to think of other smaller characters that would be great accessories. As for character releases, I think a large majority of them have been considered by Tamashii Nations. What characters do you think will not be made or seem questionable?

 

[Angelo2113]

The poster you guys are talking about always over-lights their videos so I wouldn't get too freaked out until people have the figure in hand.

Yeah, Distribuidora Animéxico's video quality flushes out quite a bit. The photos that Cooler posted a couple of days ago gives me a slight idea on what it will look like with normal light and good quality resolution. Shishioh and Hacchaka do amazing photo reviews that I always look forward to.

Speaking of, Hacchaka has a Nappa review if anybody is interested...



https://blog.livedoor.jp/hacchaka/archives/52011117.html

 

[misterW]

@angelo yeah mafex is really going in on the nolan batman stuff, and it looks great actually! Some of the star wars stuff doesnt look too bad either.

characters that i feel definitely wouldnt make it are supporting characters or really minor ones like oolong, bulma, yajirobe, even launch. Some maybes would be those other universe saiyans (cabba and co.) but the female broly i feel most likely wont get one. Also questionable as to whether or not we'll get a nappa w/o armor as well as any ginyu force members (would love ginyu and recoome actually), zarbon, and deidaria. As broly is the only movie villan theyve done, not sure if theyll ever really dive into that category either but i know everyone including myself wants cooler (can do an sdcc ex and make him metal cooler..that would suck though), janemba, garlic jr, etc. Also think that characters that are probably on back burner are characters like bardock and future gohan, i think bardock has more of a chance to be released though.

Atm due to DBS popularity i think Hit and frost have a good chance as well as master roshi and the androids in their new attire. Wouldnt mind Tien's new attire either but im fine with saiyan saga version tbh. Also a good chance that they do DBS tournament of power krillin and it could double as saiyan saga krillin too (as others have mentioned). They could do DBS trunks and zamasu as well, but not sure when they would do that, trunks has a more likley chance to be released though than zamasu imo. Also think that more DB characters would be nice but i feel like the most we are gonna get is most likley kid goku and krillin, everyone also are strong maybes. I would love a jackie chun roshi, king piccolo, DB yamcha, and a DB bulma, also 100% roshi would be a nice beefy figure too lol.

They definitely have plenty of options for future figures so im guessing they'll have more obscure or less popular characters in between releases of for sure sellers like the saiyans and main villans.

 

[ManikDX]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but after SSJ3 Goku released, God Goku is next?

 

[misterW]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but after SSJ3 Goku released, God Goku is next?

yeah ssj3 is slated for september/oct and SSG is slated for oct/nov, and kid goku should be jan/feb. So we got some gokus to look forward too haha

 

[RKenshinH]

Shenlong is for November

 

[ManikDX]

yeah ssj3 is slated for september/oct and SSG is slated for oct/nov, and kid goku should be jan/feb. So we got some gokus to look forward too haha

My wallet is going to kill me.

You know if the SSG figure is thinner, It could also be used as a teenage Goku from the Piccolo Jr. Saga.

 

[misterW]

My wallet is going to kill me.

You know if the SSG figure is thinner, It could also be used as a teenage Goku from the Piccolo Jr. Saga.

i have no doubts we'll get that version (no undershirt and bare feet) as it will work for both piccolo jr saga and vs raditz. Like i said earlier, for goku figures it's only a matter of time lol