S.H. Figuarts Star Wars

[Silrian]

So you guys got me looking at Vader's cape.

Bat-trooper? Pretty awesome.

 

[Orbital Frame]

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[guyver1]

I don't know why Mace doesn't look like Sam Jackson. They gave him the wrong expression
the face looks so scrunched up

It reminds me more of Lawernce Fisburne's face than Jacksons

 

[Justcrash]

I don't know why Mace doesn't look like Sam Jackson. They gave him the wrong expression
the face looks so scrunched up

It reminds me more of Lawernce Fisburne's face than Jacksons

I think its a great figure, but yes, it looks more like Mace on the Clone Wars cartoon.

 

[Plastic Bateman]

I'm really surprised that most of you are so glad with S.H. Figuarts Stormtrooper. IMO, this figure is even more frustrating than Vader:

- Small and inaccurate helmet.
- Large neck
- Spherized and stretched chest armor.
- Small shoulder armor pieces
- Limited articulation on ankles
- No holster for gun
- No secondary gun
- Oversized Blaster
- Even being S.H. Figuarts proportions, is a little short to be a Stormtrooper

So... yes, it still can be a good S.H. Figuarts, but not a good FO Stormie.
Talking about accuracy, the Black Series one is better, I think.

I'm still impressed with S.H. Figuarts Clone Trooper. That's my reference for accuracy, articulation and overall quality.

I was thinking that MAFEX troopers would be the most balanced versions, and they could replace S.H. Figuarts, but the problem is that they are taller than S.H. humans. I also expect a MAFEX Phasma.

So, my perfect choice would be:

Humans, Droids, Aliens - S.H. Figuarts
Troopers - MAFEX

I don't know, people, I don't know... this is mind-blowing...

Looks pretty accurate to me.

Honestly I think it's the Mafex that's more inaccurate. Helmet's too wide and the general design philosophy - especially the shoulders being attached to the torso by rubber tabs - gets on my nerves. It definitely wins on accessories though.

 

[Big Deano]

Honestly, figuarts sacrificed a tiny bit of accuracy for articulation, and im totally fine with that. The head may be a little small but its to accomodate the articulation. The troops arent small when compared to other figuarts.

The FO trooper is an example of when figuarts really nails how a figure can be posed, and most folk can let it slide that it doesnt look perfect.

The model kit looks accurate but that makes him lose articulation, I can say that having both.

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[Kunanuk]

Honestly, figuarts sacrificed a tiny bit of accuracy for articulation, and im totally fine with that. The head may be a little small but its to accomodate the articulation. The troops arent small when compared to other figuarts.

The FO trooper is an example of when figuarts really nails how a figure can be posed, and most folk can let it slide that it doesnt look perfect.

The model kit looks accurate but that makes him lose articulation, I can say that having both.

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So, can you pose S.H. Figuarts FO Stormie ankles in a natural way? Those can't move backward, just forward. That's frustrating.

That's not a sacrifice of accuracy for articulation, that's a bad design. Anyway, they don't even need to sacrify anything, look at Clone Trooper, it's 100% accurated and has a perfect articulation. Same on Maul, Kylo, etc... So, you are not convincing anybody with this argue.

 

[Plastic Bateman]

So, can you pose S.H. Figuarts FO Stormie ankles in a natural way? Those can't move backward, just forward. That's frustrating.

That's not a sacrifice of accuracy for articulation, that's a bad design. Anyway, they don't even need to sacrify anything, look at Clone Trooper, it's 100% accurated and has a perfect articulation. Same on Maul, Kylo, etc... So, you are not convincing anybody with this argue.

I really like the clones, but let's be realistic here: they have the worst torso and elbow articulation of all three types of trooper released so far. They're far from perfect in that regard.

 

[Big Deano]

Yeah, the clones were the opposite; accuracy instead of articulation. I mean have you seen just how little you can bring the legs forward?

Sure, the FO trooper isnt perfect, but lets not pretend any of them are.

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[Big Deano]

Speaking of perfect, just got my Maul and Obi in, and unfortunately Obi has a few defects. His left foot comes off very easy, his elbow pops off easy, and his eyes are kind of out of alignment. Not great. Looks like he is looking to the right slightly.

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[Plastic Bateman]

Yeah, the clones were the opposite; accuracy instead of articulation. I mean have you seen just how little you can bring the legs forward?

Sure, the FO trooper isnt perfect, but lets not pretend any of them are.

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I still say the SHF FO Trooper is better in the accuracy stakes than people initially give it credit for, especially with small details like panels and fastenings, and the overall proportions. I also very much doubt the Mafex figure will be as well-made, nor it will it be as insanely expressive as the SHF version.

I honestly don't think the Clone Trooper hips are as limited moving forwards as the classic Stormtrooper's. Then again, they have less range in other directions, so swings and roundabouts

 

[Kunanuk]

I still say the SHF FO Trooper is better in the accuracy stakes than people initially give it credit for, especially with small details like panels and fastenings, and the overall proportions. I also very much doubt the Mafex figure will be as well-made, nor it will it be as insanely expressive as the SHF version.

I honestly don't think the Clone Trooper hips are as limited moving forwards as the classic Stormtrooper's. Then again, they have less range in other directions, so swings and roundabouts

OMG. I will have to make a pic by pic comparison to open your eyes. I can't belive that you still think that Figuarts is accurated looking this photo.

Anyway, following the rule of sacrifying articulation over accuracy, we will end up playing with some kind of weird vision of the characters. I don't want that.

 

[Big Deano]

Come on guys, arent we overreacting a bit? If you are that annoyed with it just call it a female trooper and problem solved, thats what I do (and yes, female troops were a thing in TFA)

If anything the figuarts is what they SHOULD look like, I have always thought the helmets were too bulky and low down to not hit against the chest armor irl. The armor needed a bit of neck showing tbh.

As for the whole "accuracy over articulation", if we had to choose it would always be articulation, otherwise you may as well buy the black series. Armor is hard to add articulation too; they eother have to work within the limits of it, cut gaps into it, or slim it down so it works. I know what my choice is.

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[Plastic Bateman]

OMG. I will have to make a pic by pic comparison to open your eyes. I can't belive that you still think that Figuarts is accurated looking this photo.

Anyway, following the rule of sacrifying articulation over accuracy, we will end up playing with some kind of weird vision of the characters. I don't want that.

Pic by pic comparison proves nothing, the perspective and focal lengths won't line up.

 

[guyver1]

Speaking of perfect, just got my Maul and Obi in, and unfortunately Obi has a few defects. His left foot comes off very easy, his elbow pops off easy, and his eyes are kind of out of alignment. Not great. Looks like he is looking to the right slightly.

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How's the other HS. I can't explain the loose joints on yours but the eyes on this sculpt are not the best shaped on mine either, I think this their technology of the face print. The eyes are part of that weird transfer.

 

[Big Deano]

The other head is fine, just annoying that the head I wanted to use is squint xD

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[Kunanuk]

Pic by pic comparison proves nothing, the perspective and focal lengths won't line up.

Pic by pic proves absolutely everything. If you don't want to accept innacuracy on a figure design, it's your problem. I will never stop arguing against a fanboy attitude.
Most of us complaint about Black Series, Mafex, Revo, etc., so is 100% licit to tell the facts by its own name.
There are not subjective points of view when comparing two objetcs, an armor in this case, that are supposed to be the same design. When I started my post telling that there were a lot of incacuracies on Figuarts armor, I had enough information to say that. Then, please don't tell me that I'm wrong, because is not true.
That said, I still like FO Stormie. I got it, I enjoy it, but he is far to be my desired figure of a FO Stormie. That's all.

 

[Plastic Bateman]

Pic by pic proves absolutely everything. If you don't want to accept innacuracy on a figure design, it's your problem. I will never stop arguing against a fanboy attitude.
Most of us complaint about Black Series, Mafex, Revo, etc., so is 100% licit to tell the facts by its own name.
There are not subjective points of view when comparing two objetcs, an armor in this case, that are supposed to be the same design. When I started my post telling that there were a lot of incacuracies on Figuarts armor, I had enough information to say that. Then, please don't tell me that I'm wrong, because is not true.
That said, I still like FO Stormie. I got it, I enjoy it, but he is far to be my desired figure of a FO Stormie. That's all.

Well for one I'm absolutely within my rights to tell you that you're wrong, and as a former professional photographer and full-time artist I can tell you objectively - you're wrong. Never, ever rely on comparing photographs, you're looking at a three-dimensional object reinterpreted by a camera lens and flattened into two dimensions. The photographer's elevation, angle of the camera, type of lens, focal length of lens, lighting situation, etc will all drastically effect how the camera interprets the object in question.





In terms of fine detail -clasps, panel separations, etc - the SHF beats out the Bandai model kit and Mafex versions, to my eyes. Based on what I know of ideal human proportions, everything lines up nicely. The only way either of us could issue an accurate, non-subjective conclusion though, is if we had an original prop suit to compare the figure to.

This has nothing to do with fanboyism, either. You'll notice I skipped Figuarts Vader specifically because it was an underscaled, inaccurate mess of a figure.

 

[Kunanuk]

Well for one I'm absolutely within my rights to tell you that you're wrong, and as a former professional photographer and full-time artist I can tell you objectively - you're wrong. Never, ever rely on comparing photographs, you're looking at a three-dimensional object reinterpreted by a camera lens and flattened into two dimensions. The photographer's elevation, angle of the camera, type of lens, focal length of lens, lighting situation, etc will all drastically effect how the camera interprets the object in question.

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In terms of fine detail -clasps, panel separations, etc - the SHF beats out the Bandai model kit and Mafex versions, to my eyes. Based on what I know of ideal human proportions, everything lines up nicely. The only way either of us could issue an accurate, non-subjective conclusion though, is if we had an original prop suit to compare the figure to.

This has nothing to do with fanboyism, either. You'll notice I skipped Figuarts Vader specifically because it was an underscaled, inaccurate mess of a figure.

We are talking about an industrial design. And I've compared dozens of photos, with differetn angles, lens, lights, etc. And I'm also former professional of photography, design, illustration, 3D and classic sculpt. So, let me say that you are still wrong. And I will prove it this week if I can.

 

[Big Deano]

OK, enough. Can we stop arguing like kids in a playground? Kunanuk, its clear you wont be persuading either myself or Bateman, so you may as well drop it. We arent arguing against what you say, we just dont care, end of.