Scalping is discouraged on this forum, and so shouldn't all pro scalping posts also b

[Something Sexy]

Good thing I am the one who programmed the Matrix.

Because I am robot.

Sent back from the future.

To collect collectibles...for the future.



What?

 

[Skiman]

Good thing I am the one who programmed the Matrix.

Because I am robot.

Sent back from the future.

To collect collectibles...for the future.



What?

Weak and implacable, Skiman > Ugly and irrelevant.

Ego... lame.

 

[Something Sexy]

Weak and implacable, Skiman > Ugly and irrelevant.

Ego... lame.

Are you on drugs, seriously?

Also talk about an ego. (yes I am actually rolling my eyes)

 

[Skiman]

Are you on drugs, seriously?

Also talk about an ego. (yes I am actually rolling my eyes)

yea Sexy, the health nut does drugs...

That's like you not knowing the internet.

 

[ProgMatinee]

2 simple questions

do you consider this community in general as friends or only specific people?

would you scalp to friends for profit?

personally I think anyone that answers yes to the second question is shallow.

 

[Skiman]

2 simple questions

do you consider this community in general as friends or only specific people?

No I don't not, it would have to be specific ppl.

do you sell things to friends for profit?

personally I think anyone that answers yes to the second question is shallow.

There is ppl here that you thought were friends that do this... that's when they go on the list for me.

 

[ProgMatinee]

i want to qualify, i don't mean selling customs or something to friends for profit, i think people deserve compensation for their effort there.

 

[lcummins]

...would you scalp to friends for profit?

personally I think anyone that answers yes to the second question is shallow.

Wait... scalping is ok... unless it is to your friends? That there, is what they call a contradiction! You can't have it both ways! Either you don't have a problem scalping... all the time... or you do.

 

[Skiman]

You want to qualify as being a friend or join the community, I'm not sure I get your statement?

 

[Skiman]

Wait... scalping is ok... unless it is to your friends? That there, is what they call a contradiction! You can't have it both ways! Either you don't have a problem scalping... all the time... or you do.

I agree, it's one way or the other, I'm not sure if that's what he's saying though.

I think he's stating would you sell or help out a friend at a lower discount/price and my answer would be yes if that is what he means.

edit: never mind he edited after my response I see what you saying now Lonnie.

 

[ProgMatinee]

Wait... scalping is ok... unless it is to your friends? That there, is what they call a contradiction! You can't have it both ways! Either you don't have a problem scalping... all the time... or you do.

i put friends above money. so i wouldn't make money off my friends.

but if all scalping is is "business" then yeah doing "business" with strangers is ok.

the question becomes what is a friend and what is a stranger in regards to people on this forum. does sharing a community gathering place by default make you friends?

i can see profiteering off of strangers. thats how we all make our livings, well except for the people who don't work and rather soak off other people (including friends), but I digress...

but people who actually profit on their friends....that seems like the lowest of the low.

 

[316what]

2 simple questions

do you consider this community in general as friends or only specific people?

would you scalp to friends for profit?

personally I think anyone that answers yes to the second question is shallow.

Only specific people.

It all depends on the going rate for the item in question AND how long it has been unavailable. If it's a recently sold out item, friends can buy it from me for C+S+S. If it's something like Gray Hulk PF, then friends can buy it for less than the going rate, but that will be more than original price. And my friends wouldn't expect me to sell them my Gray Hulk PF for original price, but they would appreciate me selling it to them for less than the going rate....even though I'm still making a profit.

There isn't a 1 size fits all answer for the 2nd question.

 

[SnakeDoctor]

This discussion has derailed pretty heavily ... but I'll answer nonetheless.

The majority do define right and wrong! If the majority of people on the planet thought it was ok to kill, there wouldn't be laws against it!

The majority write the laws, but laws can be wrong. The majority (at the time) was OK with slavery. Slavery was wrong, the law was wrong, the majority was wrong. If the majority can be wrong, there must be an objective right and wrong beyond majority rule.

How do any of us know there is "always a right answer"? And how do we know a "definitive" right and wrong exist?

How do you know murder is wrong? How do you know child molestation is wrong? How do you know slavery is wrong? Is it just because the majority thinks its wrong -- or do you have any fundamental objections to the practices themselves? Is your personal moral compass dictated solely by legality?

We are just like every other animal species on this planet... survival of the fittest is the rule, but because we are "intelligent", or so we think, we have turned that rule on its head and created "laws" to try and prevent our instincts from ruling us. Would I want to live in a world where only instinct ruled us? No... but is it right or wrong? Who can say for certain? Science once believed the atom was the smallest particle in exsistence... then they discovered the sub-atomic particles... and so it has been since the beginning of time. We "believe" something to be truth, until it is proved wrong over time and a "new" truth evolves.

The truth exists, it is our understanding of the truth that evolves. Our "beliefs" evolve. It was never true that atoms were smallest particles -- there were always subatomic particles ... we were just unaware of their existence.

There is a truth. It is either true that there is a God, or that there is no God. We don't objectively know what that truth is -- but there is a true answer. Someone is objectively right, and someone is objectively wrong.

SnakeDoc

 

[316what]

i put friends above money. so i wouldn't make money off my friends.

but if all scalping is is "business" then yeah doing "business" with strangers is ok.

So, are you saying you would sell a Gray Hulk PF for original price to a friend (if you had one to sell)?

 

[Skiman]

I'd almost say you would have to scalp to your friends if you don't have a problem with it. Otherwise then you wouldn't be a scalper at all if you did have a problem with it and hook up your friends.

 

[Skiman]

Only specific people.

It all depends on the going rate for the item in question AND how long it has been unavailable. If it's a recently sold out item, friends can buy it from me for C+S+S. If it's something like Gray Hulk PF, then friends can buy it for less than the going rate, but that will be more than original price. And my friends wouldn't expect me to sell them my Gray Hulk PF for original price, but they would appreciate me selling it to them for less than the going rate....even though I'm still making a profit.

There isn't a 1 size fits all answer for the 2nd question.

I agree with this...

 

[ProgMatinee]

So, are you saying you would sell a Gray Hulk PF for original price to a friend (if you had one to sell)?

like you said there is no 1 size fits all answer.

it would depend on some stuff like, why did i have it in my possession to begin with? how long did I own it?how did i hear about my friend needing it? why does my friend need it? will he just turn around and sell it?

i think my most likely answer would be I would try to accomplish a trade for something of equal "market value" that maybe he acquired at cost so it would be a favor for a favor thing and neither of us lost or gained.

 

[lcummins]

...The truth exists, it is our understanding of the truth that evolves. Our "beliefs" evolve. It was never true that atoms were smallest particles -- there were always subatomic particles ... we were just unaware of their existence.

There is a truth. It is either true that there is a God, or that there is no God. We don't objectively know what that truth is -- but there is a true answer. Someone is objectively right, and someone is objectively wrong.

SnakeDoc

In that regard, you may be correct, but how will we ever know if we finally arrived at the "real" truth?

For example, what if a set of space explorers (going where no man has gone before) encounter a being that at first appearance, they believe to be God, but eventually, they discover he is only a child of a race of beings superior to theirs? Now what if a member of that race, created our planet and us? Is he a God? Is he "the" God?

 

[SnakeDoctor]

I think even most scalpers give cost breaks to friends -- though I'm not sure they owe it to them.

That really wasn't the initial question -- the question is do you owe any duty to complete strangers to give cost-breaks?

SnakeDoc

 

[karamazov80]

The majority do define right and wrong! If the majority of people on the planet thought it was ok to kill, there wouldn't be laws against it!

In some cases, but not always. There are both "bottom-up" and "top-down" processes for assigning values and rights. Sometimes it isn't what the majority wants, so much as what the authoritative units in society dictate to the society-at-large. Honestly, I'm glad the majority doesn't always get to decide, because they are often short-sighted, self-interested, and ignorant. Living in a republic such as the U.S., a few make decisions for the many. Decisions that can often have both widespread intended and unintended consequences.

The majority in the south didn't want civil rights, but it came and they learned to accept it because the government decided that it had to be.