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Both done by Mark Newman. Both cost $350. One has an exclusive ES of 1500 (already sold out), one 300 (still available). Can you guess which one?? And please don't say it is because one girl is way way more popular than the other. Sculpt > ES I rest my case.

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Both done by Mark Newman. Both cost $350. One has an exclusive ES of 1500 (already sold out), one 300 (still available). Can you guess which one?? And please don't say it is because one girl is way way more popular than the other. Sculpt > ES I rest my case.

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I agree that sculpt does matter but, come on, one IS more popular. Poison Ivy has sexy written all over. She's also been in movies and video games thanks to batman. What has scarlet witch been in other than comics? The descrepency in the ES has more to do with popularity and sex appeal than sculpt IMO.
 
I agree that sculpt does matter but, come on, one IS more popular. Poison Ivy has sexy written all over. She's also been in movies and video games thanks to batman. What has scarlet witch been in other than comics? The descrepency in the ES has more to do with popularity and sex appeal than sculpt IMO.

So Sideshow couldn't make her sexier because she she was such a nun in the comics :lol
And oh you are right. Uma Thurman made Poison Ivy super popular in that terrific Batman and Robin movie...How could I forget :rolleyes2

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Sure she could be a sexier sculpt but poison ivy would still out sell her and have a larger ES.

I'll give you that. But 1500 vs 300? No Poison Ivy is not that much more popular.

And you can't seem to understand that Sideshow sets ES based on demand during initial preorders. Preorders through the roof = Poison Ivy. Very poor preorder numers = Scarlet Witch, Venomsaurus, and Big Foot :lol

Better hunt one down before his value goes through the roof all you low ES fanatics.

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This thing is at least $25 over priced.

Storm and Spider-woman come with 2 switchout heads, whereas this only comes with one and is still $25 more expensive.

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They should've priced this $50 cheaper..
 
I'll give you that. But 1500 vs 300? No Poison Ivy is not that much more popular.

And you can't seem to understand that Sideshow sets ES based on demand during initial preorders. Preorders through the roof = Poison Ivy. Very poor preorder numers = Scarlet Witch, Venomsaurus, and Big Foot :lol

Better hunt one down before his value goes through the roof all you low ES fanatics.

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Oh I know the ES is set based on preorder numbers. I never said this would be more valuable due to lower ES. Poison ivy EX will be far more valuable down the line. I also think that poison ivy is that much more popular. Maybe not to die hard comic fans but to casual collectors, scarlet witch has little to zero exposure.
 
Oh I know the ES is set based on preorder numbers. I never said this would be more valuable due to lower ES. Poison ivy EX will be far more valuable down the line. I also think that poison ivy is that much more popular. Maybe not to die hard comic fans but to casual collectors, scarlet witch has little to zero exposure.

Explain this then. Even less exposure. 750 ES. But I'm guessing that there will be no convincing you.

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I agree that sculpt does matter but, come on, one IS more popular. Poison Ivy has sexy written all over. She's also been in movies and video games thanks to batman. What has scarlet witch been in other than comics? The descrepency in the ES has more to do with popularity and sex appeal than sculpt IMO.

I have to disagree with this.

1) Poison has sexy written all over - that IS the sculpt, which goes back to the original point sculpt made the statue. Scarlet witch could also be sculpted very sexy instead of what we have.

2) Poison ivy is more popular - not by a long shot, scarlet witch is much more popular in the comics and is part of the avengers team which given the recent exposure far outpace dc. Poison ivy is just one of the villains in batman, even though she appeared in one of the movies, i think both of them are the same b level characters.

In summary, sex appeal is a direct result of the sculpt. Popularity of those two characters really wasnt a key factor of 300 vs 1500 es. It all came down to the sculpt/paint, which poison ivy was leagues above scarlet. Even though the same sculptor did both.
 
I have to disagree with this.

1) Poison has sexy written all over - that IS the sculpt, which goes back to the original point sculpt made the statue. Scarlet witch could also be sculpted very sexy instead of what we have.

2) Poison ivy is more popular - not by a long shot, scarlet witch is much more popular in the comics and is part of the avengers team which given the recent exposure far outpace dc. Poison ivy is just one of the villains in batman, even though she appeared in one of the movies, i think both of them are the same b level characters.

In summary, sex appeal is a direct result of the sculpt. Popularity of those two characters really wasnt a key factor of 300 vs 1500 es. It all came down to the sculpt/paint, which poison ivy was leagues above scarlet. Even though the same sculptor did both.

Thank you. Exactly what I'm trying to say expressed so much more eloquently. :goodpost:
 
I have to disagree with this.

1) Poison has sexy written all over - that IS the sculpt, which goes back to the original point sculpt made the statue. Scarlet witch could also be sculpted very sexy instead of what we have.

2) Poison ivy is more popular - not by a long shot, scarlet witch is much more popular in the comics and is part of the avengers team which given the recent exposure far outpace dc. Poison ivy is just one of the villains in batman, even though she appeared in one of the movies, i think both of them are the same b level characters.

In summary, sex appeal is a direct result of the sculpt. Popularity of those two characters really wasnt a key factor of 300 vs 1500 es. It all came down to the sculpt/paint, which poison ivy was leagues above scarlet. Even though the same sculptor did both.

My point was 2 things. I've already conceded that sculpt is part of a statue selling well, just not the main reason. Sex appeal is a major factor but so is exposure. For example, to a casual collector I believe poison ivy is much more well known than scarlet witch. I'm not talking about comic book fanatics. I'm sure a lot of gamers know her from arkham asylum or other previous batman games along with the movies. Also, I stand by the idea that ivy is sexier than scarlet witch, as is lady death, in concept.
 
I thought your argument was popularity amongst casual collectors. Changing your tune I see. I give up.

I have to disagree with this.

1) Poison has sexy written all over - that IS the sculpt, which goes back to the original point sculpt made the statue. Scarlet witch could also be sculpted very sexy instead of what we have.

2) Poison ivy is more popular - not by a long shot, scarlet witch is much more popular in the comics and is part of the avengers team which given the recent exposure far outpace dc. Poison ivy is just one of the villains in batman, even though she appeared in one of the movies, i think both of them are the same b level characters.

In summary, sex appeal is a direct result of the sculpt. Popularity of those two characters really wasnt a key factor of 300 vs 1500 es. It all came down to the sculpt/paint, which poison ivy was leagues above scarlet. Even though the same sculptor did both.

My point was 2 things. I've already conceded that sculpt is part of a statue selling well, just not the main reason. Sex appeal is a major factor but so is exposure. For example, to a casual collector I believe poison ivy is much more well known than scarlet witch. I'm not talking about comic book fanatics. I'm sure a lot of gamers know her from arkham asylum or other previous batman games along with the movies. Also, I stand by the idea that ivy is sexier than scarlet witch, as is lady death, in concept.

Sorry Guys but I have to agree that Scarlett Witch among "Casual Collectors" isn't as well known as Poison Ivy.

As you have already said Ivy has been in a Movie, She has Been Featured in two installments of a widely popular video game. She Was featured in Batman the Animated Series along with Harley Quinn as the two teamed up on more than one occasion. And of Course She's been a main stay in the Batman Comics for years.

Scarlet Witch has been....well in Avengers comics.

So to Marvel readers she's well known because of House of M but outside of that Ivy has her beat.
 
Sorry Guys but I have to agree that Scarlett Witch among "Casual Collectors" isn't as well known as Poison Ivy.

As you have already said Ivy has been in a Movie, She has Been Featured in two installments of a widely popular video game. She Was featured in Batman the Animated Series along with Harley Quinn as the two teamed up on more than one occasion. And of Course She's been a main stay in the Batman Comics for years.

Scarlet Witch has been....well in Avengers comics.

So to Marvel readers she's well known because of House of M but outside of that Ivy has her beat.

That is not what we are arguing about. His argument is that Poison Ivy has a high ES simply because she is popular amongst casual collectors. Our argument is that it has more to do with the fantastic sculpt. How else would you explain Lady Death (fantastic sculpt) having a higher ES despite having practically zero exposure.

Sure Poison Ivy may be more popular but not by that much. Scarlet Witch would sell much better (leading to a much higher ES) if Sideshow had put more effort into the statue. If you agree with him you are saying that people buy high end statues mainly because a character is popular and don't really care about the sculpt. :cuckoo:
 
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