Shang Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings (September 3rd, 2021)

[Bleah]

Well, with those misinterpreted statements, he should become a hit in China now. He's not a girly man by looks and seems to be offending the LGBTBBQ community so that should put him in good graces with the CCP. Disney should promote those in that market.

 

[The Buffinator]

And thread purged and closed in 3, 2, 1…..

 

[Khev]

Future Kevin Spacey and Brian Singer will be social super stars lol

Yep! There will be statues made and streets named after them before long with the way our world is heading.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

What about Michael Jackson? He was a homosexual pedophile. Good dancer tho.

 

[Khev]

What about Michael Jackson? He was a homosexual pedophile. Good dancer tho.

Plus he was black AND white, yeah yeah yeah.

 

[ironwez20]

How is he not accepting everyone? Wouldn't the more "tolerant" stance be to declare that "love is love" and that pedophilia is no less immoral than homosexuality or beastiality or heterosexuality?

But as our society moves further and further away from Biblical principles statements like his become more and more outrageous to mainstream culture but not for long. In time "progress" will demand that pedophilia, incest, and every other form of sexual activity that the Bible calls an abomination will be seen as perfectly normal and acceptable.

Then people will be cancelled when old tweets surface claiming that pedophilia was ever immoral, just as we're currently seeing with homosexuality. We just aren't quite there yet.

Well when someone says something homophobic it’s not acceptable to everyone. I’m not homophobic myself but I know people view it unfavorably and if they say anything wrong they get canceled by the Twitter mob who just like to complain about dumb bs

 

[ironwez20]

What about Michael Jackson? He was a homosexual pedophile. Good dancer tho.

Hmmm. I still think he wasn’t a pedo. Just weird .

 

[ironwez20]

So far…

BW released with controversy

Shang released with controversy

Waiting on Eternals controversy now

I’m sure Angelina Jolie has many things she said way back when that will surface just in time for premier

 

[a-dev]

Hmmm. I still think he wasn’t a pedo. Just weird .

Nothing short of actual video footage of him sexually abusing children was ever going to get Michael Jackson cancelled - his music and performances are just too damn popular and loved.

 

[Khev]

Well when someone says something homophobic it’s not acceptable to everyone. I’m not homophobic myself but I know people view it unfavorably and if they say anything wrong they get canceled by the Twitter mob who just like to complain about dumb

His statements don't have to be seen as homophobic though. I mean we pretty much all have sexual urges that we try to control to one degree or another. Whose to say which urge is moral vs. immoral?

A Christian who follows the Bible would say that any sexual acts or even thoughts outside the context of a male/female marriage are immoral. Does that make them homophobic? Wouldn't that also then immediately make them "heterophobic" for believing that a married man who wants to have sex with other women is wrong?

Now if you say yeah well who cares what the Bible says there is no objective truth then you have to ask why incest or beastiality are "wrong." Consenting adults right? Love is love right? And so on. If he gets cancelled over his statements then it just further exposes the hypocrisy and double standards of the moral relativism crowd.

 

[jye4ever]

I could never work for Disney I watch way too much porn.

 

[GhostBeard]

Nah, they'll just change the head sculpt with a generic looking Asian man...oh wait.

You don't think the HT's Shang-Chi sculpts are accurate? I'm not saying they're expressive, but they're pretty balls on.

 

[GhostBeard]

His statements don't have to be seen as homophobic though. I mean we pretty much all have sexual urges that we try to control to one degree or another. Whose to say which urge is moral vs. immoral?

A Christian who follows the Bible would say that any sexual acts or even thoughts outside the context of a male/female marriage are immoral. Does that make them homophobic? Wouldn't that also then immediately make them "heterophobic" for believing that a married man who wants to have sex with other women is wrong?

Now if you say yeah well who cares what the Bible says there is no objective truth then you have to ask why incest or beastiality are "wrong." Consenting adults right? Love is love right? And so on. If he gets cancelled over his statements then it just further exposes the hypocrisy and double standards of the moral relativism crowd.

Careful ... if you gets cast in the next Marvel franchise you could be screwed.

 

[TurdFurgusonsHat]

Uh, not exactly. This is what happens when we take things out of context.

You mean like this...

“Gina Carano is not currently employed by Lucasfilm and there are no plans for her to be in the future,” a Lucasfilm spokesperson said in a statement. “Nevertheless, her social media posts denigrating people based on their cultural and religious identities are abhorrent and unacceptable.”

 

[The Buffinator]

You mean like this...

“Gina Carano is not currently employed by Lucasfilm and there are no plans for her to be in the future,” a Lucasfilm spokesperson said in a statement. “Nevertheless, her social media posts denigrating people based on their cultural and religious identities are abhorrent and unacceptable.”

What's the old adage - two wrongs don't make a right? Bitterness over Carano's treatment is no excuse to treat Liu unfairly as well. Plus there's a subtle difference: Carano was working for Disney (or technically inbetween contracts) when she made her statements whereas Liu was not. Actually his situation seems closer to that of James Gunn rather than Gina's, and Gunn was ultimately rehired for GoTG3.

 

[TurdFurgusonsHat]

What's the old adage - two wrongs don't make a right? Bitterness over Carano's treatment is no excuse to treat Liu unfairly as well. Plus there's a subtle difference: Carano was working for Disney (or technically inbetween contracts) when she made her statements whereas Liu was not. Actually his situation seems closer to that of James Gunn rather than Gina's, and Gunn was ultimately rehired for GoTG3.

Oh I agree about the two wrongs, I'm just pointing out the hypocrisy of Disney(easy to do nowadays). I would also say that the action taken against Carano and the inaction taken against the other individuals has more to do with the political leanings of all the players involved.

 

[TurdFurgusonsHat]

Here is a rather prophetic passage from a past Forbes article:

Disney’s approach is dangerous. Canceling people for their views is the proverbial slippery slope. The maxim, “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it,” is losing ground to a rather frightening alternative of, “I disapprove of what you say, and I will cancel you for it.” In the past, organizations that needed to distance themselves from employees’ controversial opinions would make a public statement that, “the employee’s opinions are theirs alone and do not necessarily reflect the official policy or position of the company.” Done. Banishment was reserved for more egregious behaviors like debilitating drug abuse, assault, robbery, and murder. The 1950’s blacklisting experience reinforced our belief that speech and political affiliation need to be protected, but we seem to have forgotten the lesson.

As companies cancel people for their opinions, it feeds a dangerous cycle. The more they cancel, the more they emboldened the mob to target more people and organizations. Then repeat. Disney, and many other organizations, are playing a very dangerous game out of fear, partisanship, and/or misplaced sincerity. The beast they helped to create and indulge may eventually devour them.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/genede...ical-and-dangerous--lacking-sound-management/

 

[Khev]

What's the old adage - two wrongs don't make a right?

This. Whatever happened to the simple disclaimer of "The views and opinions expressed are those of the speakers and do not necessarily reflect the views or positions of The Walt Disney Company and Marvel Entertainment" and calling it a day?

 

[Dave_W]

Gina who?

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

You don't think the HT's Shang-Chi sculpts are accurate? I'm not saying they're expressive, but they're pretty balls on.

Yes. They nailed the head sculpt.