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[dan350zr]

Then he later says hes not sure if its PVC or another plastic in MOS. Whats going here?

You have to remember that Igo is just the Creative Director, he has no say or what they do on the production side of things.... Igo with his team just comes up with the prototypes and then the production team takes it from there... So I don't expect Igo to know all the answers...

 

[mattman6886]

My Man of Steel PF has arrived. Some thoughts. First off, yes, Superman himself is very light. On the negative side, this makes the statue feel a little less "substantial". On the plus side, the statue is also less fragile feeling than most PFs. With the base being heavier and made from polystone, the statue is very balanced and you can carry it with no fear of Supes wobbling or falling off the base.

Moving on from weight issues, as far as the statue itself goes, I'm very pleased with how it looks. I'm one of the one's who thought the pose looked very awkward when I first saw the proto. I've felt like the body was designed to originally be in more of a flying/floating pose, with the head tilted more downward like in the concept art. While it still doesn't look like the ideal pose to me, thankfully it looks much less awkward in person, with Supes looking like he's about to leap off the rubble and fly away. As far as the paint goes, sure it's a step down from the prototype, like every SS piece, but I'd say it's one of the better jobs they've done on a PF. The suit looks fantastic, and the cape has several wires in it to get some good poses out of. You won't be able to pose the cape straight upward, but you can get it in some nice floaty positions like the pics on the website if you work with it a little.

Some pics:
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[xjamiex]

Thanks for the review, those are some great pics!

 

[Skywalker(OG)Kush]

My Man of Steel PF has arrived. Some thoughts. First off, yes, Superman himself is very light. On the negative side, this makes the statue feel a little less "substantial". On the plus side, the statue is also less fragile feeling than most PFs. With the base being heavier and made from polystone, the statue is very balanced and you can carry it with no fear of Supes wobbling or falling off the base.

Moving on from weight issues, as far as the statue itself goes, I'm very pleased with how it looks. I'm one of the one's who thought the pose looked very awkward when I first saw the proto. I've felt like the body was designed to originally be in more of a flying/floating pose, with the head tilted more downward like in the concept art. While it still doesn't look like the ideal pose to me, thankfully it looks much less awkward in person, with Supes looking like he's about to leap off the rubble and fly away. As far as the paint goes, sure it's a step down from the prototype, like every SS piece, but I'd say it's one of the better jobs they've done on a PF. The suit looks fantastic, and the cape has several wires in it to get some good poses out of. You won't be able to pose the cape straight upward, but you can get it in some nice floaty positions like the pics on the website if you work with it a little.

Some pics:
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Fantastic Pictures. PVC issues aside, this PF looks very good.

 

[godzilla2099]

Great pictures. Its not the materials that is making me hesitate, but three concerns. If any owners can comment on them I'd appreciate it:

1. The Cape: How does it match up with the rest of the suit? Some pictures the color matches the costume, others it does not. If those reds really clash that's the deal breaker for me.

2. The Face: Overall, how does it look? I loved the Costume and the Base the most about this statue. The cape and the face is whats making me iffy.

3. The Neck: Is it me, or is that neck extremely long?

Thanks

 

[Darklord Dave]

This "PF" doesn't affect me per se, but I heard about your woes and I too am concerned with future products. There's no material description on the PO pages as you know, only weight, so if Supes here is 12 lbs, and Kier is 10 lbs... Not to mention WW, BG, Cap, etc...

oh my God, cap ws in pvc? catwoman in pvc? Panic!!

SS rep Mike told a poster above that PVC was used because it displayed better under the all cloth costume. So we can assume that PF like Kier or Wonder Woman, which are mainly sculpted with less costume material, will be resin.

LOL at that picture, it reminds me the episode of seinfeld. when seinfelddating this girl she look awesome pretty in the dark light but in the brighter room she just plain ugly.


btw let me add what is the difference between PVC and PS
PS is a resin compund and the mixture of it can be anything from PE, PVS, ABS ,silica but mostly made from mineral materials such aluminum hydrate while it PS offer detailed form/shape it is very brittle and very hard to form and expensive sometime.
meanwhile Poly Vinyl Chloride (PVC) is really is a plastic which really easily form , hard to break, o dont but it can bend easily and thats why some of you feel the the statue looks like a doll .
PVC used mainly for plumbing pipe and can be use for leather like clothing. however PVC without proper treatment poses heatlh issue so dont let your babygirl lick Henry cavill at least in his statue form.

HENCE SSC is cutting corner by using PVC.

Not true - see my post above. The actual materials used are a MINUSCULE contribution to how expensive a piece is to produce. The WAY something is produced is what dictates the costs involved.

 

[SammyG]

I'm calming down a bit about this PVC switch (don't get me wrong, I'm still upset, just have stopped swearing about it), and I got thinking... if indeed, the suit looked bad on the polystone sculpt, and thus the controversial switch to PVC, would Sideshow be willing to show the forums/customers/public exactly what looked wrong? Evidence of why the switch was made would likely put to rest some of the concerns... obviously not about weight, but that's another issue all together.

I wonder what Alex over on SF would have to say about this. Anybody care to relay and hope that it's something they can or are willing to address? Or am I nuts for thinking that transparency is something embraced by Sideshow?

 

[Bmutha]

I'm calming down a bit about this PVC switch (don't get me wrong, I'm still upset, just have stopped swearing about it), and I got thinking... if indeed, the suit looked bad on the polystone sculpt, and thus the controversial switch to PVC, would Sideshow be willing to show the forums/customers/public exactly what looked wrong? Evidence of why the switch was made would likely put to rest some of the concerns... obviously not about weight, but that's another issue all together.

I wonder what Alex over on SF would have to say about this. Anybody care to relay and hope that it's something they can or are willing to address? Or am I nuts for thinking that transparency is something embraced by Sideshow?

You're nuts Sideshow would never do that.

 

[Darklord Dave]

Trying my best not to sound over the top cynical here, but you're assuming that the story about the suit is an honest and accurate account. I have no evidence, conclusive or otherwise, to assume the statement is anything other than honest and accurate, but it is at least possible that this statement is cover for flying out a test balloon to see how we'd react to use of a (potentially cost saving) new material at the same price point as polystone. Not making any statements here, but if I'm reading the mood on the fan base correctly here, it possible that for version 2.0 (and ANYTHING subsequent to this fiasco, for that matter) the decision will be polystone or nothing based on the reception of this piece, despite what costume challenges they face.

I'm reasonably sure that the proto was polystone, and that suit looked pretty amazing too. PVC might well have been easier to work with in this regard, but the question I guarantee Sideshow is asking itself right now is, "at what cost". Just spit balling here, really... Take it for what its worth.

The proto was resin and probably not the exact mix of resin that calls itself polystone.

They know how this flies - they did it with Boba Fett and the reaction was - "how dare they!" even though it actually makes NO difference in how the piece displays. I assume the outrage comes from the perception that PVC pieces are cheaper to produce, but I know that this is NOT the case, but they are significantly more costly to produce.

 

[Bmutha]

The proto was resin and probably not the exact mix of reson that calls itself polystone.

They know how this flies - they did it with Boba Fett and the reaction was - "how dare they!" even though it actually makes NO difference in how the piece displays. I assume the outrage comes from the perception that PVC pieces are cheaper to produce, but I know that this is NOT the case, but they are significantly more costly to produce.

For me, it's the fact that PVC feels cheap compared to polystone. That may be ridiculous, but it's how I feel. I have some PVC statues, and they just don't exude the same level of quality, regardless of how much more or less they cost to produce.

 

[SammyG]

You're nuts Sideshow would never do that.

That's too bad... I really like transparency from a company. I guess I'm still quite new to this game, so I need these doses of reality. Boo-urns.

 

[denny1514]

It seems like now folks are justifying spending hundreds of dollars on PVC, if that's the case Neca needs to raise there prices equal to SS...sheeple will pay it.

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[jpuli28]

Idk, based on a Igo's tone in the SF, I don't think we'll be seeing much of PVC anymore or at least no without notice. CW will be ps btw.

 

[Remy]

SS rep Mike told a poster above that PVC was used because it displayed better under the all cloth costume.

The proto was resin and probably not the exact mix of resin that calls itself polystone.

Which is the reason why it doesnt make sense to why they switched to PVC.
If the proto is resin, why not just use the same resin?

Look at the difference between the abs between the proto and final, it looks more defined to me.
look at pics of the fiinal piece...not much definitions.


Proto (resin...possibly polystone)






Final (PVC...plastic)

If the resin looks better and cheaper than PVC, why not leave it as resin and Sideshow even saved some more money?
Which is why a lot of people are having a hard time believeing SS excuse of switching to PVC.


So SS spent more on a material that feels cheaper, and cost more, and looks inferior?

 

[denny1514]

Wow that's a big difference

 

[dan350zr]

The prototype used a much more expensive resin then the resin they use for production versions. The bottom line was it was cheaper to use PVC then the resin they used on the prototype, at least that's what I get from reading all the posts...

 

[SammyG]

Which is the reason why it doesnt make sense to why they switched to PVC.
If the proto is resin, why not just use the same resin?

Look at the difference between the abs between the proto and final, it looks more defined to me.
look at pics of the fiinal piece...not much definitions.

Lighting has a lot to do with the difference in photos to be sure... notwithstanding, the gauntlets, piping, and neck collar support that the costume on the prototype is considerably different than the one that shipped with the PF. So, yes, why not just use the same resin as the prototype, and alter the colour of the gauntlets and piping to be more movie accurate? The wrinkles in the suit look far more realistic than the skin suit that's on the PF now. All seems reasonable to me.

 

[SwiftC]

This whole situation is crap.

Between the PVC switcharoo and the statue just looking absolutely awful, especially compared to the prototype, Sideshow should replace every last one of these with a version made with the same material as the prototype. Really? The suit didn't look right on the resin? That's complete bull ***** because we can all see clear as day that it looks A THOUSAND times better on the resin prototype than the final product. And I have never cared one bit about weight, and I still don't. But the statue LOOKS cheap. Between the poor paint jobs and the extremely noticeable PvC seam lines it's abysmal. I mean WTF Sideshow?

 

[JAWS]

The dreaded flash photography. Hold on to your privates, boys

That's like the worst place to display a statue... Ever!

 

[SammyG]

This whole situation is crap.

Between the PVC switcharoo and the statue just looking absolutely awful, especially compared to the prototype, Sideshow should replace every last one of these with a version made with the same material as the prototype. Really? The suit didn't look right on the resin? That's complete bull ***** because we can all see clear as day that it looks A THOUSAND times better on the resin prototype than the final product. And I have never cared one bit about weight, and I still don't. But the statue LOOKS cheap. Between the poor paint jobs and the extremely noticeable PvC seam lines it's abysmal. I mean WTF Sideshow?

Got my vote.