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I'm wondering if I can figure a way to remove the head and apply a thread to the neck.

I could always fill him with Bubble Bath and have the best, geekiest bathtime accessory in the UK
 
Yeah, I sent my Sauron PF packing back to SS. I just couldn't convince myself to love it. The material not only felt like plastic but it looked like plastic as well imo. No regrets letting him go.

i thought sauron pf is above mediocre . time to fly into LOTR threat...
*fly away*


*fly back*
what u talking about ? that sauron is lookin ggreat.


got into 1st page of this thread, what a great prototype . too bad ssc cant delivered what they promise.
 
Well he's waiting for me at home.

I'll unbox, put together some pics and probably write a review on my blog page tonight.
 
This was a business decision, pure and simple. SS decided they’d rather allow you to examine the entire piece and its overall impression on you with the figure in hand, hoping that the meticulous and truly excellent suit, and the paint apps, applied at arguably their best painting factory in China, would win you over against the non-polystone molding. In short, they gambled that you’d fall in love with it and your love would trump your disappointment. Simply put, SS wanted you to give the piece a fair measure before you formed an immovable opinion based on your feelings about PVC.

Despite the passion here and on the other forums, SS seems to be winning this bet. If you examine the opinions of the people who actually have the piece in-hand (who are still few in number), the reception is reasonably positive. SS may not hit a homerun on this one (and I think they likely knew that from the day the figure was announced, polystone or otherwise), and there will be a fair number of returns, but compared to the return ratio they would have likely experienced had they announced the PVC up front, I think its likely a win for them.
 
Mine could look like Cavill himself stood in the corner but I'd still want to return it due it being PVC. The only reason I'm not is because I'll be £100 out of pocket and PF less if I send it back on something sideshow won't consider a defect (technically it's not, I know that).

What worries me is that I used to make Screamin' Model kits when I was a teenager. These were hollow vinyl kits that we had to weight with sand or cement in the legs and then stuff the remaining cavities with balled up paper to prevent collapse or warping.

How do we know that this statue won't face the same? Sideshow won't let us peek behind the curtain and tell us the thickness of material, if cavities were reinforced etc.

I know that those that have it in hand are fairly happy but I've also seen everybody and their sister on these boards start panicking that the wonder woman or court of the dead or Reeve pfs will be PVC. Collectors aren't happy. I really do hope Sideshow takes note.
 
BTW (I know I'm whining) but as well as collectors being unhappy, I feel they have let down the consumer in the way they have handled this since the news broke. The simple math is the edition size is 3000. At $400 per unit, if Sideshow sells all of them it sees $1.2 million dollars of investment from the consumer base as a whole in this statue alone.

Over a million dollars in revenue deserves a better response than "we never said it would be polystone!"

The lady I spoke to in customer services seemed far more sympathetic and understanding than the published responses from "seniors" so far. That is troubling.
 
This was a business decision, pure and simple. SS decided they’d rather allow you to examine the entire piece and its overall impression on you with the figure in hand, hoping that the meticulous and truly excellent suit, and the paint apps, applied at arguably their best painting factory in China, would win you over against the non-polystone molding. In short, they gambled that you’d fall in love with it and your love would trump your disappointment. Simply put, SS wanted you to give the piece a fair measure before you formed an immovable opinion based on your feelings about PVC.

Despite the passion here and on the other forums, SS seems to be winning this bet. If you examine the opinions of the people who actually have the piece in-hand (who are still few in number), the reception is reasonably positive. SS may not hit a homerun on this one (and I think they likely knew that from the day the figure was announced, polystone or otherwise), and there will be a fair number of returns, but compared to the return ratio they would have likely experienced had they announced the PVC up front, I think its likely a win for them.

Sad but true
 
BTW (I know I'm whining) but as well as collectors being unhappy, I feel they have let down the consumer in the way they have handled this since the news broke. The simple math is the edition size is 3000. At $400 per unit, if Sideshow sells all of them it sees $1.2 million dollars of investment from the consumer base as a whole in this statue alone.

Over a million dollars in revenue deserves a better response than "we never said it would be polystone!"

The lady I spoke to in customer services seemed far more sympathetic and understanding than the published responses from "seniors" so far. That is troubling.

How are you whining, you got duped on a 400+ dollar doll.
 
Darkavatar it wasn't meant to be a slight. I collect hot tots and agree. I'm actually hoping the new mystery 1/4 hot toys is a reve Supes. I don't refer to Hot Toys as dolls but figures. This one piece plastic 'statue' is a doll, like some sort of uber injection molded dolly and 400 bucks is a lot of money to ask.

Well my friends call them dolls, but then again they call any collectable I have dolls because they can't tell the difference between a statue and a figure if they are both wearing clothes. I didn't know there was a mystery 1/4 scale figure coming out by Hot Toys but only Arnie Kim can capture the core likeness of Reeve and Hot Toys fired him, so I doubt Hot Toys will be able to match Arnie's one because Sideshow's failed to match it.

Which is the reason why it doesnt make sense to why they switched to PVC.
If the proto is resin, why not just use the same resin?

Look at the difference between the abs between the proto and final, it looks more defined to me.
look at pics of the fiinal piece...not much definitions.


Proto (resin...possibly polystone)






Final (PVC...plastic)

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If the resin looks better and cheaper than PVC, why not leave it as resin and Sideshow even saved some more money?
Which is why a lot of people are having a hard time believeing SS excuse of switching to PVC.


So SS spent more on a material that feels cheaper, and cost more, and looks inferior?

:goodpost:

Wow what a difference, the final PVC product lacks total detail compared to the polystone proto! :horror
 
Of all the complaints I've read, lack of detail in the actual sculpt is not one of them. What part are you referring to?

Might be just the lighting in the pics, but the muscles like the abs seem to be more noticeable on the proto. The PVC figure just looks rather smooth looking.:dunno
 
I love his blank emotionless face, very fitting with the movie.

He's definitely on his way to murder innocents in Metropolis :lol
 
Might be just the lighting in the pics, but the muscles like the abs seem to be more noticeable on the proto. The PVC figure just looks rather smooth looking.:dunno

I see what you mean. Though honestly the proto doesn't look normal... the suit looks like it was glued to the outlines of the muscles. The abs are there though... you can feel the mold under the suit.

I also like that they were able to remove the suit "bunching" at the crotch/thigh.
 
Oh man. for me, this is really disappointing. I don't really care about if it's PVC or Polystone (I prefer polystone obviously) but the thing I value the most as a collector is the likeness. I don't care if it's PVC, resin, polystone or silicone. What I really care is to have a really impressive statue or figure that captures the resemblance of the character (and in that case the actor) This is not the case and is very notorious.
I think the costume is great, it's very accurate in texture and color for me (at least the recent pictures show that) but the face is way off and that's what makes me loose interest in this statue.
That's why I simply have chosen to cancel my order on Sideshow. I don't use to cancel any order, but in this case the quality is so low for a $400 item (for me and of course it hasn't to be the same for other collectors). Maybe the head sculpt is OK and it is the paint job what ruins the sculpt, I don't really know.

The only thing that I care now, is that this won't repeat with future items like C. Reeve PF, Batman PF and so other futures PF.
 
So I read Igo's interaction on SF to give them a bit of the benefit of the doubt. Guy should have stayed quiet or just said sorry. He's made it 10 times worse than it would have been over there. One post he say's something like " We didn't ever say it was poly-stone"

Talk about throwing a match on some tinder. I mean why the hell would anybody think it would be made of polystone, when you've been selling polystone statues for 10 years....? bahaahahahah.

Seriously I feel sorry for you international guys like me. It's a one way ticket most of the time - ALWAYS wait on in hand. There is zero reason to PO. Half of the EX editions are rubbish these days anyway.


Wise words mate.
 
I see what you mean. Though honestly the proto doesn't look normal... the suit looks like it was glued to the outlines of the muscles. The abs are there though... you can feel the mold under the suit.

Oh I don't doubt they are there it is just that they look more noticeable on the proto but like I said that could be the lighting. And I do see what you mean by it looks like the suit was glued to the outlines of the muscles but I still prefer that statue to the final product.

I also like that they were able to remove the suit "bunching" at the crotch/thigh.

Yeah they did a good job there, I must admit that.


Oh man. for me, this is really disappointing. I don't really care about if it's PVC or Polystone (I prefer polystone obviously) but the thing I value the most as a collector is the likeness. I don't care if it's PVC, resin, polystone or silicone. What I really care is to have a really impressive statue or figure that captures the resemblance of the character (and in that case the actor) This is not the case and is very notorious.
I think the costume is great, it's very accurate in texture and color for me (at least the recent pictures show that) but the face is way off and that's what makes me loose interest in this statue.
That's why I simply have chosen to cancel my order on Sideshow. I don't use to cancel any order, but in this case the quality is so low for a $400 item (for me and of course it hasn't to be the same for other collectors). Maybe the head sculpt is OK and it is the paint job what ruins the sculpt, I don't really know.

The only thing that I care now, is that this won't repeat with future items like C. Reeve PF, Batman PF and so other futures PF.

Where have you been? The majority have not been impressed with this sculpt since day one of seeing proto pretty much. And if you want the item with the best likeness then the Hot Toys one is the one to buy. I just preferred the color of the suit on this one more than the Hot Toys one because in this case I was just gong for the overall look and not so much the head sculpt with the best likeness.
 
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I was lucky enough to get this from Chicky last spook. I am sitting here reading everything people are saying and I of course have my own feelings and opinions.

First, I got mine as a gift so it's very hard for me to form any realistic criticism that may make me seem ungrateful.

I do not believe there is anything at all wrong with PVC. If they want to use it, fantastic. However, I do believe that collectors deserve the right to know if/when pvc will be used, so that they can make the conscious decision to buy or not. No switcheroos from Sideshow, no head games. Tell people the truth, let them decide.

I myself, as a collector, love my polystone/resin. If I had paid for this statue, I would have been devastated to receive it and feel the lightness and see it is pvc. I probably would have returned it. Not because it's pvc per se, but because no one told me that's what was going to be added to my collection.

So, let's try to forget the fact that Sideshow used PVC, and let's focus more on why we didn't get the chance to be told, out of respect, that we weren't getting resin, which is the assumption after all of these years buying with Sideshow.

I am still very happy with him, especially if I look at him from afar. I am also very thankful to Chicky and Sideshow for him. So I don't want to lose sight of my gratefulness. I just want to be honest about how I would feel had I paid full price for him. I wouldn't have been thrilled.
 
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