Solo: A Star Wars Story

[Prime Clone]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

On one hand, I admire TLJ for taking risks and being "full of surprises".

But if the true aim was to jettison the older and/or male fan base, that was just dumb. Why not bring everyone along to maximize profit?

 

[Wor-Gar]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

Fett, Greedo and Jabba - they were expected, it would have been "groan-fan-service" ....

In a movie that, from its conception, is "groan-fan-service". Give mean frickin' Jabba and Fett.


It's Han's job to sacrifice... so maybe in the long run, "Star Wars" as a whole will be better off for Solo's sacrifice.

I'm also rooting for IW to dethrone TFA. Kill it all. Burn it down. See, I did hear you, Rian. Right back at ya.

 

[TaliBane]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

All the planets lined up perfectly against Solo.

Lets see shall we.

Kennedy (and Rian) pissing off a very large % of conservative SW fans who are riding a substantially popular post election wave with her forced feminism (ie; Mary Sue Rey, Holdo, Rose, L3)
Post election wave against giant liberal media companies including Disney and RT being grouped into fake media establishments.
TLJ plot not being what Abrams set up.
Perceived mishandling of OT character arcs.
Kennedy very poor relationship with directors and writers.
Han unceremoniously killed off
Harrison Ford constant berating of SW.
Hamill constant anti conservative comments.
Hamill constant public comments on TLJ.
Solo movie without Ford.
No one asking for a Solo movie.
Alden being hired and not that popular Youtube kid clone of Ford.
Acting coach rumors.
Hiring of poor reputation Ron Howard.
Boycott against Lucasfilm.
Lack of Jedis in Solo.
Battlefront 2 game controversy lingering.
Moving Solo from December next to DP2 and IW (seriously wtf)


No way in hell was Solo NOT going to crash and burn.

Even if only half of that list was accurate it would still be destructive.

The irony of it all, Solo was good

But the core issue is it's the first Star Wars movie EVER to not be a Skywalker-related trilogy film or be set inside a Skywalker-related trilogy film. It was far riskier than most thought. It was Star Wars but missing most of what people expect from a SW movie.

Solo was really at a huge disadvantage because:

(a) no ANH death star plotline to "borrow" like RO did, bringing with it galaxy-wide high stakes and host of classic ANH locations and characters including Vader, and

(b) no Skywalker/Jedi/Force A-story like the ST has (with its "Millennial Luke" and "Millennial Vader," along with OT Luke/Han/Leia in the mix.)

The movie had a complete stranger as Han and all it had in terms of the "SW nostalgia comfort food" people expect (what is becoming recognized as the key ingredient in any SW film) was Chewy and the Falcon (and another stranger playing Lando if you can count that.) Even the Empire, with all its sinister coolness and hardware, basically only got a CAMEO in lieu of an assortment of low wattage bad guys like water-caterpillar, Vos (reprising his role in Da Vinci Code with a Just-for-Men makeover) and Empty Nest.

So Solo in the end had very little to hang your hat on as a "Star Wars film." I quite liked it as a "deep" fan but I can see how the general audience and even casual fans would reject it - completely.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

In a movie that, from its conception, is "groan-fan-service". Give mean frickin' Jabba and Fett.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

But the core issue is it's the first Star Wars movie EVER to not be a Skywalker-related trilogy film or be set inside a Skywalker-related trilogy film. It was far riskier than most thought. It was Star Wars but missing most of what people expect from a SW movie.

Solo was really at a huge disadvantage:

(a) no ANH death star plotline to "borrow" like RO did, bringing with it galaxy-wide high stakes and host of classic ANH locations and characters including Vader, and

(b) no Skywalker/Jedi/Force A-story like the ST has (with its "new Luke" and "New Vader," along with OT Luke/Han/Leia in the mix.)

The movie had a complete stranger as Han and all it had in terms of the "SW nostalgia comfort food" people expect (what is becoming recognized as the key ingredient in any SW film) was Chewy and the Falcon (and another stranger playing Lando.) Even the Empire, with all its sinister coolness and hardware, basically only got a CAMEO in lieu of an assortment of low wattage bad guys like water-caterpillar, Vos (reprising his role in Da Vinci Code) and Empty Nest.

So Solo in the end had very little to hang your hat on as a "Star Wars film." I quite liked it as a "deep" fan but I can see how the general audience and even casual fans would reject it.

Well that’s what I meant with lack of Jedi’s in Solo.

But yes the main problem with the movie is the lack of good villians.

Wor-Gar had the solution see his post above lol

 

[TaliBane]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

In a movie that, from its conception, is "groan-fan-service". Give mean frickin' Jabba and Fett.


It's Han's job to sacrifice... so maybe in the long run, "Star Wars" as a whole will be better off for Solo's sacrifice.

I'm also rooting for IW to dethrone TFA. Kill it all. Burn it down. See, I did hear you, Rian. Right back at ya.

It will, but not domestically.

It's kind of fascinating how Star Wars is more of a U.S.-weighted phenomenon where it earns about 50/50 domestic vs international whereas most other major franchises can be as drastic as 30/70 or even 20/80, with international sometimes being double or triple the domestic side. Hunger Games is another one that's more 50/50 as a franchise. I wonder what these things say about these particular franchises.

Well that’s what I meant with lack of Jedi’s in Solo.

But yes the main problem with the movie is the lack of good villians.

Wor-Gar had the solution see his post above lol

I wonder what the Michael K Williams mo-cap version of Vos was like.

EDIT - just found this article about it:

https://screenrant.com/solo-movie-dryden-vos-concept-art-alien/

 

[crows]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

Pretty sure only reason Disney is caring about Solo is mainly the Fox deal. Sure Solo is underperforming, but Comcast potentially throwing an all-cash bid plus a bad B.O right now with Solo. I doubt KK is getting sent to the gallows on one bad movie. Plus this movie sets it up for a sequel (which I actually would like to see).

dont forget cancelling ROSEANNE
which will hurt them a lot too.

All the planets lined up perfectly against Solo.

Lets see shall we.

Kennedy (and Rian) pissing off a very large % of conservative SW fans who are riding a substantially popular post election wave with her forced feminism (ie; Mary Sue Rey, Holdo, Rose, L3)
Post election wave against giant liberal media companies including Disney and RT being grouped into fake media establishments.
TLJ plot not being what Abrams set up.
Perceived mishandling of OT character arcs.
Kennedy very poor relationship with directors and writers.
Han unceremoniously killed off
Harrison Ford constant berating of SW.
Hamill constant anti conservative comments.
Hamill constant public comments on TLJ.
Solo movie without Ford.
No one asking for a Solo movie.
Alden being hired and not that popular Youtube kid clone of Ford.
Acting coach rumors.
Hiring of poor reputation Ron Howard.
Boycott against Lucasfilm.
Lack of Jedis in Solo.
Battlefront 2 game controversy lingering.
Moving Solo from December next to DP2 and IW (seriously wtf)


No way in hell was Solo NOT going to crash and burn.

Even if only half of that list was accurate it would still be destructive.

The irony of it all, Solo was good

shes finished!!!
she messed with the wrong people!
never underestimate the fury of a nerd

 

[jedijim3002]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

Chewbacca in the shower scene?

You really like talking about Wookiee in showers. Are you making a ****?

 

[crows]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

Good riddance, we dont need their money. SO LONG SUCKERS!!!

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

Resident Evil > ANH/ESB

What’s that saying again...

A billion chinese people can’t be wrong.

Are we sure about that lol

 

[EVILFACE]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

A billion Chinese people can’t be wong.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)



Even half wrong that’s still more than twice the size of the US population

Hold on let me wake up the T-Rex of SW....

Hey Khev wake up did you hear....

The Chinese said Resident Evil > ANH/ESB.

That Racoon City > OT Vader/Emperor/Tarkin/Han/Luke/Leia/Yoda/Chewie/C3PO/R2D2/Death Star Run/I am your father/Twin Suns/Cantina/Help us Obi-Wan you’re our only hope/Chasm Swing/Hoth/Space Battles/John Williams score.

 

[crows]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

Even half wrong that’s still more than twice the size of the US population

Hold on let me wake up the T-Rex of SW....

Hey Khev wake up did you hear....

The Chinese said Resident Evil > ANH/ESB.

That Racoon City > OT Vader/Emperor/Tarkin/Han/Luke/Leia/Yoda/Chewie/C3PO/R2D2/Death Star Run/I am your father/Twin Suns/Cantina/Help us Obi-Wan you’re our only hope/Chasm Swing/Hoth/Space Battles/John Williams score.

people always say that star wars never caught up in china because they never grew up with it and because by the time star wars arrived to china it was too late and people just couldnt adapt

yet china never had marvel comics or never has fast and furious when it came out and yet.... both franchises flourished............

so.... yeah right it was all because of nit growing up with star wars.... right....

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

True true and thankfully information released by their government is very trustworthy and reliable data lol

 

[Caped Baldy]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

The Chinese didn't like BR 2049 either, did they? The hell with them then!

 

[YoNoSe]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

Maybe they just don’t like the idea of robot revolutions since they actually have robots.

 

[greedo737]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

You really like talking about Wookiee in showers. Are you making a ****?

Maybe I am?

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

Maybe they just don’t like the idea of robot revolutions since they actually have robots.

No that’s the Japanese who are going the robot route to handle their age/population/workforce problems and fetishes.

The Chinese just like bootleg movies and smoking 24/7 everywhere even while cooking your food and at day care centers so don’t be alarmed when you’re food has ashes in it and your kid comes home with ashes on them

Oh and they also like having zero safety regulations so becareful getting on an escalator and fire hoses at their buildings are really attached to nothing behind the wall and fire alarms aren’t really important enough to connect lol

Their travel slogan should be:

”Come visit Beijing and leave with COPD”

 

[crows]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

True true and thankfully information released by their government is very trustworthy and reliable data lol

No that’s the Japanese who are going the robot route to handle their age/population/workforce problems and fetishes.

The Chinese just like bootleg movies and smoking 24/7 everywhere even while cooking your food and at day care centers so don’t be alarmed when you’re food has ashes in it and your kid comes home with ashes on them

Oh and they also like having zero safety regulations so becareful getting on an escalator and fire hoses at their buildings are really attached to nothing behind the wall and fire alarms aren’t really important enough to connect lol

Their travel slogan should be:

”Come visit Beijing and leave with COPD”

I bet if solo was number one in china then you would be singing a different tune then

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Solo: A Star Wars Story (May 25th, 2018)

Solo # 1 in China it’s not even # 1 with US white males!

Well technically it is # 1 two weekends in a row lol

But seriously don't act so surprised your highness you weren't on any China box office reporting mission this time.