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The ill Jedi

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Being that I am a HUGE Spider-Man fan, I would never pull any punches when it comes to my opinion of a Spider-Man movie. That being said...

...Out of the three this is the best and SM3 is the best Super Hero movie ever PERIOD!!!

All of the returning cast members were excellent and Topher Grace and Thomas Haden Church were really good as well, not to mention the gorgeous Bryce Dallas Howard was adorable as Gwen Stacy. Oh and Bruce Campbell once again stole the show!!

I admit that it was a lot to try to fit in in such a shorty amount of time, but I liked what I saw. To those that didn't like it, I honestly think you were expecting too much. I enjoyed the 'Dark Peter' moments, even though the dancing and strutting bits were a bit much. Peter's inner turmoil and his problems with MJ were a great part of the story and I thought it was cool that the symbiote took him over for a while.

The fights with Harry, Sandman and Venom were all well done and I thought Venom looked awesome. I had read a lot of negative comments about his design, but I loved it. The final fight was amazing, it really captured that comic book feel fight that a lot of other super hero films miss the mark on.

I loved it, point blank. Could it have used a little tweaking here and there? Sure, but it was still awesome, those are my 2 cents. Sorry for making another thread, but I didn't want my positive comments to get lost in the sea of negative ones in the other thread. I had something nice to say about it so deal with it! :D Oh and for the love of god can you please stop calling 'Dark Peter' 'Emo'. :rolleyes:

It's 3AM now and I'm not even sure what I wrote made any sense. :D

Ill :cool:
 
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I'm with you, playa.:D I saw it yesterday and i thought it was great. The fighting scenes were awsome and well-made, Venom and Sandman looked great and Topher Grace and Thomas Hayden Church did a good job (although i wish Eddie Brock/Venom got a little more screentime) and Bruce Campbell was hilarious:lol As was J.K. Simmons. Bryce Dallas Howard also did a good job and looked hot too and the Spider-Man movies needed a hot chick like the other comic-book movies (Kirsten Dunst is ugly and anoying IMO).
Is it the best Spider-Man movie? It's hard to say (for me anyways) after one view but it's a great movie and very entertaining. So go see it if you havn't and don't be so critical:D
 
The ill Jedi said:
Being that I am a HUGE Spider-Man fan, I would never pull any punches when it comes to my opinion of a Spider-Man movie. That being said...

...Out of the three this is the best and SM3 is the best Super Hero movie ever PERIOD!!!

All of the returning cast members were excellent and Topher Grace and Thomas Haden Church were really good as well, not to mention the gorgeous Bryce Dallas Howard was adorable as Gwen Stacy. Oh and Bruce Campbell once again stole the show!!

I admit that it was a lot to try to fit in in such a shorty amount of time, but I liked what I saw. To those that didn't like it, I honestly think you were expecting too much. I enjoyed the 'Dark Peter' moments, even though the dancing and strutting bits were a bit much. Peter's inner turmoil and his problems with MJ were a great part of the story and I thought it was cool that the symbiote took him over for a while.

The fights with Harry, Sandman and Venom were all well done and I thought Venom looked awesome. I had read a lot of negative comments about his design, but I loved it. The final fight was amazing, it really captured that comic book feel fight that a lot of other super hero films miss the mark on.

I loved it, point blank. Could it have used a little tweaking here and there? Sure, but it was still awesome, those are my 2 cents. Sorry for making another thread, but I didn't want my positive comments to get lost in the sea of negative ones in the other thread. I had something nice to say about it so deal with it! :D Oh and for the love of god can you please stop calling 'Dark Peter' 'Emo'. :rolleyes:

It's 3AM now and I'm not even sure what I wrote made any sense. :D

Ill :cool:

I agree with most of what you wrote but I think we had the right to expect this film to focus much more on Venom as well as his design. Venom sould be much bigger and like I said in the other thread should say "We". I just felt that Venom was thrown in the film only to get rid of him.
Sam Raimi had some good ideas for the final fight but it felt ridiculous sometimes. I think the worst part was the journalist's saying "this might be the end of Spider-Man". I mean everybody laughed in the theater because of that line and I do understand why. The same thing goes for the kids saying "wicked cool!" when the Sandman explodes. I reckon that kind of lines had nothing to do in an SM film and especially the one that was expected to be the darkest.
 
I LOVED PP's pimp moves(so unlike him and thats what makes it SO work)Really can't wait for the Medicom PP now!:D :cool: :cool:
 
Seth Gecko said:
I LOVED PP's pimp moves(so unlike him and thats what makes it SO work)Really can't wait for the Medicom PP now!:D :cool: :cool:

Same here. I was worried when I heard about them before seeing the movie. But they worked so well in context. The symbiote, as depicted in the film, brings out an individual person's inherent dark side. Peter is so good-hearted, composed, and respectful that his "dark side" would be a flashy, smug, arrogant, self-absorbed IDIOT. But he was even darker at times...


SPOILER WARNING


...hitting MJ, psychologically attacking Harry with comments like "He thought you were a disgrace, etc.


And I too am looking forward to the Medicom Parker now.
 
Worst Spiderman movie of all of them IMO.

I liked it but had some major problems with it.
 
https://www.scifi.com/scifiwire/index.php?category=3&id=41341

Raimi was struggling with Venom for a while as to what he should do with him, he knew that fans wanted him in there but wasn't sure if he should have a small appearance (like at the end) or a more important role.
But through a lot of fan mail about the subject it seems that most fans wanted him to either do a big thing with Venom or not have him at all.
So because of that we have the lower amount of screen-time for Venom.

I really like it though, and it's made me order my first Marvel stuff.
 
I have mixed feelings about it. I liked it, definitely enjoyed the Black Suited Spidey parts, thought that aspect was introduced too late especially with all the hype around it.

I really enjoyed Gwen Stacy's character, even her look gave me vibes from the 60s rendition in the comics although why Mary Jane looked emaciated I'll have no idea.

The fight scenes were done really well although looking at the Goblin Lair in this one and the various Goblin masks why Harry chose that particular look at the "New Goblin" is really beyond me creatively, especially with the yellow version of Gobby right there, I for sure thought Hobgoblin. The Harry storyline was nicely played out although the middle part was unnecessary and the confession before the climax was strangely placed especially since I got a whole Batman vibe from it.

Felt the Venom storyline was actually perfectly played, they encapulated the Brock downfall perfectly and the suit's rejection just fine. The look of Venom had me though because he screeches more than speaks and his face looked too "pushed in", not to mention the eyes were much larger and closer to the mouth with seemed to be just teeth and so he didn't match ANY of the product released. They were definitely targeting the "Ultimate Venom" including the whole Eddie Brock Jr, thing.

Ultimate_venom_inline.jpg


The interesting thing is the storyline IMHO that look "forced" was the Sandman storyline....he was barely in it for the major villain of this film. The resolution with that character was stupid. Not to mention all of the "MUMMY" ripoffs which was a complete loss of the source material.

Its not that I expected too much, its that I expected a film. Something with development. Had they just used Harry or Venom it would have worked but splitting your time with all three was overkill, not to mention that with a film with so many slow parts it definitely felt fast paced in terms of development if that makes any sense.

I liked Venom, was upset by the resolution there. Hated the Sandman completely, liked the Church casting but hated the way he was used. Like the New Goblin but he should have donned his real armor at least for the climax. Enjoyed the Dark Parker parts. Hated both useless dance scenes. Absolutely was floored by the Black Suited look, played amazingly well on film. Enjoyed the fight scenes more than any other SM flick. Hated the open ending because if this was originally supposed to be the last Spider-Man film it was handled poorly. Didn't like the "Rock Star Spidey" thing. Loved the J. Jonah scenes. Thought the Uncle Ben thing was useless could have easy been omitted. Thought overall the film ran about 15 minutes too long for what they had on-screen.

Its definitely the "Return of the Jedi" for me of the trilogy. There are some parts that I like but definitely like the second one better and the first is in a dead heat....just like the Star Wars Original Trilogy.

Interested where they go with Spider-Man 4 and hope we return to the one villain a film ideal.
 
Dark_Spidey said:
I agree with most of what you wrote but I think we had the right to expect this film to focus much more on Venom as well as his design. Venom sould be much bigger and like I said in the other thread should say "We". I just felt that Venom was thrown in the film only to get rid of him.

Maybe they will include some more Venom scenes on the Extended Edition DVD?:D

SPOILER! (If you havn't seen it)

I read somewhere that they are working on Spider-Man 4 and that one of the characters that die in the end comes back.
 
Worst of the 3 but still enjoyable and a dvd buy. Too much time seeing Peter as a juiced up testosterone freak. Should've let Harry sit this one out, or just a cameo. His change of heart was too fast and way too complete to be believable. Effects were top notch. Venom angle was well done. Love to see him swap out tired looking MJ for hot Gwen, but he blew that one in the bar. Fun movie, but faaaaar from the best superhero movie ever made.
 
I'm wondering providing there is a 4th spiderman whether venom will return. I know he got destroyed at the end, but the professor/scientist guy still had that small speciman that they could put a spin on somehow. Venom's design was so so for me. I think his head bothered me the most. It looked like a black and white venus fly trap. I thought they should have made his voice alot deeper too. Overall though I really enjoyed the movie.
 
I liked the movie alot too. It wasn't as good as I expected, but only in that I wanted it to show a little more of how the suit was affecting him as Spider-Man as well as Peter Parker. I was also disappointed with Venom having such a small part. But those are my only two really small criticisms. They didn't make the movie less good to me, just not as good as I think it could have been.

As for the dance scenes, I can totally relate, if something unlocked my darker side I have no doubt I'd be dancing and acting really cool, the problem would be that I can't dance worth a crap and my version of cool is really uncool.
 
The way I see the dance thing (Peter making a fool of himself) is that the Symbiote is affecting him since he's now wearing it where he goes instead of the red suit, but Peter isn't that type of person, he can't fool people, and that's why it actually makes him look ridiculous.
 
It was just too much, and unfortunately not of a good thing.

Too many villains, none that you really cared anything about -- except moments from Harry, well when he wasn't totally campy as Amnesia Man. We didn't even need The Sandman, he was a worthless antagonist; the big payoff for him came in the last moments - and really lacked any emotional impact, we apatheticaly watch him literally sail away. I should have cared about his dying daughter, but I didn't, I wasn't given the chance to. The "false" flashbacks that came before the "real" story were just a distraction; again keeping us from maintaining any sense of continuity.

Too many turns in the story, was this to be a jilted and jealous pic, a battle between photographers, a struggle for a father to save his dying daughter and reconcile with his wife, or a teenager finding out about his darker side, a hero comign to terms with new-found popularity and how to maintain a healthy relationship in the midst of it all --- and on, and on. Had the movie been given a longer screen time (which I am glad it wasn't) maybe it would have worked better. As it stands it felt like two maybe three films packed choppily into one.

And no, I am not a hater; I really liked the first and especially the second - this was a disappointment for me.
 
The Mike said:
Its definitely the "Return of the Jedi" for me of the trilogy. There are some parts that I like but definitely like the second one better and the first is in a dead heat....just like the Star Wars Original Trilogy.

My feeling exactly. While this was a good movie, it wasn't even in the same ballpark as Spiderman 2 [ critically acclaimed as the finest superhero movie ever made, and with good reason] and just a slight notch below the original.

Too many villians for my liking, and too many flaws to be considered a great movie. I really didn't like the humorous [at least I think they were supposed to be humorous] one liners tossed around during the fight scene's, and I'd love to know what happened to spiderman's "spidey sense". I'm mean, he must have been ambushed half a dozen times, yet he never saw it coming? And could someone please explain to me how Harry could survive one of those jack-o-lantern bombs exploding 2 ft from his face and yet when one is tossed at Eddie Brock he vapourizes instantly?
Some good supporting roles from J.K. Simmons, Topher Grace, Thomas Hayden Church and Bryce Dallas Howard [she looked great too!]. Bruce Campbell was fantastic in a small role. This guy reminds me so much like Christopher Walken, it doesn't matter what type of a role these two guys play, they steal every scene they're in.
All around a good movie and fun to watch, but hardly a classic. I would put it in my personal best top ten superhero/comic movies, but just barely.
 
yeah... disappointment with a capital D(on't let Raimi have the next one)... F-O-R-M-U-L-A isn't working! such interesting characters with no time to become fleshed out! even the CG was inconsistent... at times it looked great, other times sort of made-for-television... i think Spider-Man needs some new blood!
 
The ill Jedi said:
Being that I am a HUGE Spider-Man fan, I would never pull any punches when it comes to my opinion of a Spider-Man movie. That being said...

...Out of the three this is the best and SM3 is the best Super Hero movie ever PERIOD!!!

All of the returning cast members were excellent and Topher Grace and Thomas Haden Church were really good as well, not to mention the gorgeous Bryce Dallas Howard was adorable as Gwen Stacy. Oh and Bruce Campbell once again stole the show!!

I admit that it was a lot to try to fit in in such a shorty amount of time, but I liked what I saw. To those that didn't like it, I honestly think you were expecting too much. I enjoyed the 'Dark Peter' moments, even though the dancing and strutting bits were a bit much. Peter's inner turmoil and his problems with MJ were a great part of the story and I thought it was cool that the symbiote took him over for a while.

The fights with Harry, Sandman and Venom were all well done and I thought Venom looked awesome. I had read a lot of negative comments about his design, but I loved it. The final fight was amazing, it really captured that comic book feel fight that a lot of other super hero films miss the mark on.

I loved it, point blank. Could it have used a little tweaking here and there? Sure, but it was still awesome, those are my 2 cents. Sorry for making another thread, but I didn't want my positive comments to get lost in the sea of negative ones in the other thread. I had something nice to say about it so deal with it! :D Oh and for the love of god can you please stop calling 'Dark Peter' 'Emo'. :rolleyes:

It's 3AM now and I'm not even sure what I wrote made any sense. :D

Ill :cool:



I AGREE ILL, While it started little slow.I enjoyed it immensely and find all 3 movies all the same to me....Fun to watch and entertaining :)
 
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