SSC Batman 1/6 figure

[piccolodaimaoh]

According to Kevin and some of this may have been said here, the figure bodies are totally new and designed specifically for Supes and Bats SO FAR. Batman obviously has the buffer one between he and Superman. There are nice ratchet joints along the shoulders that should help provide studier holds for poses. One downside is that the elbows are not double-jointed but Kevin mentioned this was a decision made based on the spandex costume that the figures have. The reason being that they found that double joints tend to get caught in the costume and damage the fabric. Also, due to the muscularity of the figure body, making that double joint can be tricky.


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Great info on the line. Thank you for sharing. Did he happen to mention why they made Batman the more buff between he and Supes when in actuallity Superman is the much larger of the two? Decisions like this and the choices they made on the GI Joe line and their interpretations of Deadpool and Wolverine always leave me scratching my head.

 

[jpuli28]

I had some hands on with this figure and came away very impressed.

Were they able to stand on their own or were the stands a necessity?

 

[Awesome-O]

Looks cool. I was unsure on the preview pics but the SDCC pics changed my mind. First 1/6 I'll be buying from SS in a long time.

 

[Bardoon]

piccolo, he mentioned that they did try the buffer body on Superman. I think some of the earlier display pieces have it. But ultimately decided they wanted a slightly less muscular one for Supes. He said Batman being the pinnacle of human physique that it worked better for him. The overall muscularity just didn't work for the Superman design and look they were going for. So they made a new body for him.

jpuli, yes they stood very well on their own. If Sideshow is able to carry that quality to the actual production models, then they have some winners on their hands. I remember the Prometheus bodies had some issues and loose joints was one of them. Sideshow seems to have recognized this and has worked to rectify it. I think they feel they have a better grasp on it which is why we see them releasing new 1/6 figures again (outside the Star Wars line).

 

[Sardo Numspa]

I had some hands on with this figure and came away very impressed.

Kevin Ellis (Sideshow's Costume Designer/Project Manager) brought out BOTH Batman and Superman for some of us to look at. Which was awesome of him to do. Really nice and friendly open guy and I know he's here on the Freaks board so THANK YOU KEVIN!

According to Kevin and some of this may have been said here, the figure bodies are totally new and designed specifically for Supes and Bats SO FAR. Batman obviously has the buffer one between he and Superman. There are nice ratchet joints along the shoulders that should help provide studier holds for poses. One downside is that the elbows are not double-jointed but Kevin mentioned this was a decision made based on the spandex costume that the figures have. The reason being that they found that double joints tend to get caught in the costume and damage the fabric. Also, due to the muscularity of the figure body, making that double joint can be tricky.

The boots appear to be two pieces with the rubber boot along the shin slipping into the crease by the ankle, this allows the ankle to move pretty freely. Hopefully there won't be much strain because the rubber can eventually split as it did on one of prototype models I handled.

Sideshow is getting better at 1/6th. Kevin says they've learned a lot and they're being more flexible, which is why you don't see one devoted figure body like the Prometheus. They hope to be able to re-use some of their newer figure bodies, but they'll cater towards the specific character.

I asked about a Black & Gray Batman (my personal favorite colors for Bats) and he said if they do it, he would prefer it to be a *NEW* Batman figure as opposed to a repaint of this one.

Kevin also noted that they wanted to go with the "classic" DC looks for their DC line because they took a look at what was out there and noticed a lack of "classic" DC interpretations of their heroes in 1/6th (Medicom is an exception but they have a different style). So they went that route but would eventually like to change them up later on with some creativity like they have with the Marvel SSC figures (Wolvie & Deadpool). It's likely if they do Superman and Batman again, they might do their "own" versions of the character as opposed to taking a pre-existing design and making a figure of that.

He also noted that if they ever did Wonder Woman, she would likely be a new figure body.

This guy was handling the figures right next to me and taking a lot of pics. So he has some good shots. He also did variations of all the different headsculpts with the various mouth expressions.

By the way, these Bats and Supes were EARLIER production prototypes than the ones they had in the display cases. So the ones in the cases were the most up-to-date with slight changes (color variations mostly).

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Thanks for posting... I had pre-ordered both Bats & Sups anyway, but this just adds to the excitement!

 

[ASTRO13ZOMBIE]

The BD face and cowl looks awesome.

 

[piccolodaimaoh]

piccolo, he mentioned that they did try the buffer body on Superman. I think some of the earlier display pieces have it. But ultimately decided they wanted a slightly less muscular one for Supes. He said Batman being the pinnacle of human physique that it worked better for him. The overall muscularity just didn't work for the Superman design and look they were going for. So they made a new body for him.

Well, that's a reason. That's their story and they're sticking to it. The Batman body is very impressive and hopefully it looks just as nice in had. Can't wait 'til IGN gets this boy in hand for a review. Their Vader review was priceless. Thank you for the info.

 

[jpuli28]

Im not a Medicom fan but I love this pose. This pose with the BD COH will rock.

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[Karnis]

If I can get this right here I'll be a happy camper...looks great.

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[melkorjunior]

piccolo, he mentioned that they did try the buffer body on Superman. I think some of the earlier display pieces have it. But ultimately decided they wanted a slightly less muscular one for Supes. He said Batman being the pinnacle of human physique that it worked better for him. The overall muscularity just didn't work for the Superman design and look they were going for. So they made a new body for him.

This is why Hot Toys eats their lunch. Any design calculations that end with "and therefore our Batman figure must have a buffer body than our Superman figure" are flawed calculations. There is no good Superman design that should necessitate he have a smaller body than Batman. If that's what their design calculus was telling them then they should have scrapped it and started over.

 

[EVILFACE]

Meh, Bats needs muscles. Superman needs the Sun.

 

[GasparZizou]

The sun gives Superman muscles.

 

[onethousandmasks]

Is the body suit removable? If so, you can always pic up an extra Batman body from TA and use it for Supes.

 

[GasparZizou]

It hasn't been said, but I think it shouldn't be too hard to remove.

 

[melkorjunior]

And remember, Batman is vaulting all over the place like a gymnast every night, so the ore weight he packs on, the harder his body has to work. Superman, on the other hand, is smashing through buildings all the time, lifting unimaginable weights, and absorbing energy from the sun like a solar battery, which directly powers his body. Batman should be relatively lithe compared to Superman. Sideshow has it reversed.

 

[piccolodaimaoh]

Meh, Bats needs muscles. Superman needs the Sun.

And there is no one arguing that but, if we are going to be scientific about the matter, Batman swings from roof top to roof top, does flips, is a modern day ninja. If you look at, say, Ninja Warrior or MMA, none of them are big like this Batman. They are muscular of course and fit, built more like a gymnist than a linebacker. This Batman is too muscular, not just to me but in general. He should be lithe and athletic like Jon Jones or Daniel Bryan not big and muscular like John Cena or Clay Matthews. For him to be super ripped and still do all the ninja stuff he would have to be superhuman like Cap; since he isn't he should be trimmer like Daredevil.
I can't come down on Bardoon because he is only passing along their message but their reasoning makes no sense; not in a comic way or even a logical real world way. Batman should be built like a Porsche not a tank.

 

[Bardoon]

I'm going to wait for a black & gray Batman. I was VERY impressed with the figure like I said. But I've never been a fan of the Neal Adams' Blue & Gray Batman colors. Plus, I don't dig the head-sculpt that much, just something about it doesn't sit right with me. I REALLY considered getting it after messing with it in-hand but those are two strikes for me and I'm out. Kevin did mention it's VERY likely they'll do another Batman because well, he's Batman and Batman = $$$DOLLA BILLS$$$. So I'll wait for another one.

Supes...on the other hand. Might definitely pick him up.

 

[GasparZizou]

What? No Batman should be built like a tank, all those MMA and Gymnasts? Batman is supposed to be better than them and have an even more impressive physique.

This Batman looks ok, a bit slim on the waist but nothing too bad and this Superman could definitely use a slight bulk up.

Btw, this is a gymnast body for reference.

 

[piccolodaimaoh]

What? No Batman should be built like a tank, all those MMA and Gymnasts? Batman is supposed to be better than them and have an even more impressive physique.

This Batman looks ok, a bit slim on the waist but nothing too bad and this Superman could definitely use a slight bulk up.

Btw, this is a gymnast body for reference.

I can see it now, a 280lbs Batman goes out for his first night on patrol, swings to a roof top, rips his MCL and ACL because he is has too much muscle weight and retires forever. Gotham is lost forever. A chilling future.

 

[piccolodaimaoh]

Is the body suit removable? If so, you can always pic up an extra Batman body from TA and use it for Supes.

You read my mind. Supes and Batman have great looking body designs, I just think they are on the wrong character. They should be switched.