SSC Green Lantern 1/6 Figure

[Durable]

I don't know what you said "no" for since I said the days of the <$200 are over as a statement without giving a reason for the new price minimum--a statement that you seemingly agree with, unless you're saying that we'll see figures under that amount from SS and HT.

Your theory of "Don't buy them and the price will go down" is flawed. You know what happens when people don't buy figures from a line from SS? That line gets cancelled. They don't go back and redo the figures at a cheaper price point. Look at the GI Joe line. You think SS is going to bring that line back with figures that cost $124.99-$149.99 since the later figures didn't sell well? Regardless, even if that theory worked--good luck getting people to do that. Some people aren't concerned about the cost so you're not getting them to follow the plan. Some people want the figure so badly that they'll buy it just so they don't miss out on the opportunity to get that character in their collection--especially if there's a chance the line doesn't sell well and is cancelled (reread the beginning of this paragraph).

There are some companies making cheaper figures than HT and SS, like I stated in the post you quoted. They may not be licensed or from the license you want but they exist. I don't know how long they'll be able to keep prices that low but enjoy it while it lasts. There are some good ones coming from Threezero. SS and HT, however, are throwing the figures out there at a certain price and seeing if they stick. If people buy them, the line continues. If people don't buy them, they move on to something else.

The $200.00 is a mark-up--is it not driven by demand. If the demand is not there, then the price will go down. The american auto makers were making crap cars in the 70's, and the imports took--off. Did the us stop making cars? They made them better. Maybe SSC should not make the DC line/marvel line--if it's gonna look like this. If sideshow is not willing to put the quality into it--I'm sure companies like Mezco(their one/12 line DKR is terrific) will pick up the slack. We as collectors may have to wait to get what you want--and that's not a bad think. One thing for sure is if you buy this, more of it will come down the line.

 

[GeneralZodLives]

We'll have to agree to disagree. SS isn't going to lower prices.

 

[koonfasa]

I'd prolly still get Powergirl.

 

[AJEswim]

I don't see how people can compare this to mattel products, mattel figures such as the GL Sinestro 2-Pack may have had a total of 6 constructs and 2 figures, HOWEVER, they didn't have cut and sew people they didn't have to make a new head sculpt for either figure there's no extra sculpting the figures have their suits painted on in fact im pretty sure it was the 4th GL figure in that line and the second Sinestro and I mean the exact same figure just a metallic paint. Look do I think a classic GL would be bad from sideshow NO WAY I'd love to have a classic GL, that being said, the sideshow interpretations sound interesting and to be honest I think this GL will fit in fine it's not a HUGE difference can't wait for flash and the rest of the JL. Also as far as the whole Mattel doing wings for Hawkman and Sideshow won't be able to I totally disagree, again wings from Mattel are just two pieces and to dis a company on their ability before they even do something close to that is just odd to me. I'm really glad Matt has commented so much on this thread, thank you Matt. I'm excited to display my SS GL with his illuminated lantern in one hand and his exclusive power up fist facing up in the air. One thing I'd love to see is a photo of the exclusive from the side to see the full back of the fist with the power up effect up.

 

[Durable]

We'll have to agree to disagree. SS isn't going to lower prices.

They don't have to--just make a better product!!

 

[Romidar]

Do not display DC Direct figures with hot toys if you have the space. I plan on doing that when I buy are new house and when I can display them. By themselves, they look great together in pictures I have seen. I can see your wife's point, they look a little weird compared to the more stylised ht's figures. Sorry you are not happy with gl as many are. Congrats on your income situation, with the pricing now a days, you will need it!

I've got 4 Detolfs set up along one wall of my home office, with a combination of Hot Toys (mostly Marvel, but also Crow, Man of Steel Superman, Baby Doll from Sucker Punch, Bespin Luke Skywalker, etc.), Sideshow (Duncan & Connir McLeod, Aragorn, Gandalf, Legolas, Boromir, Darth Vader), Ignite (historical/Knights) and DC Direct (GL, Sinestro, Captain Marvel, Superman). I have them fairly segregated in the cases, but really not much flexibility beyond that.

Mainly I was commenting on the quality vs. cost comparison. I don't mind spending $200+ for a toy that I feel is worth it (my wife may feel differently ;-)), but this GL seems a major miss based on the price. I honestly don't see it as an improvement over the DC Direct Hal but it costs more than twice as much.

I do get that no one likeness will make everyone happy. Not everyone liked the MoS Superman movie costume, but the difference in fan reaction when it was first shown was dramatically different than the Ryan Reynolds GL costume (I still remember getting that Entertainment Weekly issue where it was first shown and thinking it was a bad omen for the movie that they so totally missed on the costume).

I guess it's probably too late to course correct this figure, which is unfortunate. I don't care about accessories, but I do want to feel like the figure stepped off the page/screen. I simply don't feel that here.

 

[DeltaForceChung]

I'd prolly still get Powergirl.

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Of course you will.

Her boobs will mesmerize you short of breaking off or her head sculpt will turn you off because of a cross eyed paint job or maybe the body breaking apart at the hips.

 

[The Mike]

If yourself or any other members who are upset about Lantern come to SDCC, I do hope you come to our booth and find myself, Kevin or Jesse and please let us know who you are so we can have a more in depth face to face conversation. We can probably also discuss more details than are worth typing out so please come find us. One of the highlights of SDCC is finally putting a face to the name and meeting you all in person.

I have to give it to you Matt, willing to continue the dialog and even offer to continue it in person is a class act move, especially since the tension in the room could have had you running the other way.

So since you mentioned Marvel, any chance you could give us a heads up on that license, since we've only had one release since the line was shown at SDCC? I know this isn't the thread for it but you're here so...

Any chance we'll see a figure up for order before this year's SDCC or should be wait until then AND if we are waiting until then will more be shown than last year? Thanks!

 

[teemu]

The $200.00 is a mark-up--is it not driven by demand. If the demand is not there, then the price will go down. The american auto makers were making crap cars in the 70's, and the imports took--off. Did the us stop making cars? They made them better. Maybe SSC should not make the DC line/marvel line--if it's gonna look like this. If sideshow is not willing to put the quality into it--I'm sure companies like Mezco(their one/12 line DKR is terrific) will pick up the slack. We as collectors may have to wait to get what you want--and that's not a bad think. One thing for sure is if you buy this, more of it will come down the line.

Yeah,I hope Mezco gets the Marvel license for the one collective...I'd rather pay $65 for an awesome super-articulated Classic rendition of Captain America than what Sideshow's "interpretation" is going to look like when they get to him.

How can Mezco make an amazing Batman figure for only $65???? Wait till Mezco's Green Lantern shows up

 

[**16k**]

I don't see how people can compare this to mattel products, mattel figures such as the GL Sinestro 2-Pack may have had a total of 6 constructs and 2 figures, HOWEVER, they didn't have cut and sew people they didn't have to make a new head sculpt for either figure there's no extra sculpting the figures have their suits painted on in fact im pretty sure it was the 4th GL figure in that line and the second Sinestro and I mean the exact same figure just a metallic paint. Look do I think a classic GL would be bad from sideshow NO WAY I'd love to have a classic GL, that being said, the sideshow interpretations sound interesting and to be honest I think this GL will fit in fine it's not a HUGE difference can't wait for flash and the rest of the JL. Also as far as the whole Mattel doing wings for Hawkman and Sideshow won't be able to I totally disagree, again wings from Mattel are just two pieces and to dis a company on their ability before they even do something close to that is just odd to me. I'm really glad Matt has commented so much on this thread, thank you Matt. I'm excited to display my SS GL with his illuminated lantern in one hand and his exclusive power up fist facing up in the air. One thing I'd love to see is a photo of the exclusive from the side to see the full back of the fist with the power up effect up.

Okay, point taken....

...now let's compare them to DC Direct 13" figs...

 

[WWEJedi]

Thanks for your thoughts Jedi - let me try and respond to each point you have brought up:

We felt the lantern lighting up was important and that was always planned. There were multiple people on here just a few days ago voicing concern that it did not appear to light up, hence my initial jump onto the board to mention that it will illuminate. Perhaps in hind site I should have just allowed speculation to prevail and not have come on. I seem to be have upset more people with my comments. I see the point you are shooting for with the Mattel comparison but I have to respectfully disagree. At the smaller scale I feel you have better ability to inject 'slug' constructs, i.e. one piece injections. At this larger scale, we can encounter issues with such a large single shot injection so we would have to break the constructs up into multiple pieces like we did with the fist. This does get expensive to tool so many pieces.

Outfit - what is this? We mentioned at SDCC to those we talked with that we were moving away from spandex and 'classic' looks and moving our DC line into our interpretations of the characters. Similar to how we are handling Marvel. We are not going to go way out to left field with them - the goal is that when you see it you will clearly know who is who, but they will look different than anything previously seen in comics, film. I mentioned repeatedly I am not defending anything as I am trying to respect everyones opinion and provide simple clear answers to some of the questions. I believe someone mentioned I was giving a typical Sideshow response - I'm not sure what that is. Respectful, listening and acknowledging critiques, being as clear as I can with responses? I obviously am not going to give you the deep nuts and bolts of every decision as I don't think any company divulges that type of info.

Yes - Actually one of the architects of the design is a huge DC fan. Also we share our designs with Warner Brothers/DC licensing and we make sure they are on board with our designs before we even initiate development. We then share again through each stage to make sure what we are doing is in line with their characters. So, we do share the product with multiple sources prior to release. Ultimately though, it is a Sideshow product so your pointed criticisms of this figure are correct in directing it towards us.

Again - I don't believe I tried justifying the price. If that is how it was interpreted, than I am sorry it came off like that. I was providing straight information on attributes that affect the price. Yes - those other figures came with additional items. They were also priced - prior to production a few years ago as well as with multiple vendors who all have different pricing. Sideshow is a business so we need to adapt to our partners cost while making a profit in the end.

'I have to find a factory that makes figures at $150.00' was a response to Groovy mentioning on 3/19 that (I paraphrase) "the only way to get out of this mess and recoup money spent is to lower to $150.." - I made the mention in jest as a light hearted attempt to 'get out of this mess', unless of course said board member has manufactured sixth scale figures in mass quantities and knows this to be 100% true. I do not think she will share her factory location with me though. Many other companies making figures for $150 or less - sure, of course there are and I think its great they can pull this off. There are also plenty of other companies with similar pricing as us, even more. Its all over. As far as Spook sales - those are sold through Sideshow - not HT, so are you sure that is what Sideshow pays or did Sideshow sell at a loss or in some other strategic decision? I think your example is well thought, but I think its speculative of costs.

As far your point of $250 , with the load out you mention and suit design - honestly you don't know that any more than I whether those results would be favorable. You may buy it, but would enough people buy in mass to make that the right decision for this character and make it highly profitable? Would the people who already bought this Lantern figure have purchased the design you mentioned? I'm sure had we done that, we would now be discussing how 'the hell we justify' a $250 price point with a simpler, spandex suit and clear constructs that don't have paint.

Thanks for a well written and well thought out post. I hope this addresses some of what you mentioned. If not I hope the acknowledgement of your points hold some weight.

If yourself or any other members who are upset about Lantern come to SDCC, I do hope you come to our booth and find myself, Kevin or Jesse and please let us know who you are so we can have a more in depth face to face conversation. We can probably also discuss more details than are worth typing out so please come find us. One of the highlights of SDCC is finally putting a face to the name and meeting you all in person.

I have many large scale items that are single injection items that come from a much smaller price point. A entrance ramp, announcers table, surfboard.... I could go on. Even the Funko POP! figures, the body is a single injection, from a large mold.... is it not? Those are very large, probably the same size as the fist yet Funko is able to do it for $10. Sure the fist may have a more.... artistic design..... maybe if made more simplistic more constructs could have or should have been done.

"We mentioned at SDCC to those we talked with that we were moving away from spandex and 'classic' looks and moving our DC line into our interpretations of the characters. Similar to how we are handling Marvel. We are not going to go way out to left field with them - the goal is that when you see it you will clearly know who is who, but they will look different than anything previously seen in comics, film." Did you start moving away from the classic look with Green Lantern? Batman is No Mans Land Bats to me, Superman is basically classic Superman, basically pick a year and that figure will work for it. Harley is from the comics, Joker is from the comics. I guess this Green Lantern is his New 52 look? It is just so.... so..... head scratching that SSC starts with five figures in classic attires and then all of sudden they make a switch. It would be like the Star Wars line switching between life like sculpts and animated sculpts for the clone wars.... it makes no sense. As far as displaying these all together that is out the window to (at least for me). You put this figure next to any previous release and you know both are from different eras immediately, heck even my Mom would know the difference. I just do not understand the need or reason to switch "goals" in this line when SSC was doing a great job up to this (although Superman should have had a bigger body, tiny)

Maybe next time for a DC release take fan input??? I know Mattel Design Team does the same on another forum. Ask on facebook, twitter, a poll on here. List some attire choices and at least take into consideration what the fans... the buyers want.

I guess I understand the price point for other figures. Disney upped the price for Star Wars and Marvel if I remember correctly. Did anything happen to DC though? To me, as GeneralZodLives said, it seem as if this is just a price point thrown out to see if it sticks, and right now that price is slipping.

Companies making figures for $150 and less are great. Not asking SSC to do this but asking to put out a figure worth the price being asked. Maybe you could call up ThreeZero and ask the location for there factory if Groovy wont tel you?
As far as Spook goes, sure it is just speculation, but as you said SSC is a business wanting to make a profit so I highly highly doubt SSC would sell figures during Spook and not make any money back or just break even on them. Even at $128 Robin 1966 figure SSC is still making money on, Spook figures are 25% to 40% off, still making money. Or would SSC sell figures for a loss? And lose even more money in employees working probably one of the busiest weeks for SSC whether that be customer service, packing, updating the website, giving out the free figures, etc.... I highly doubt SSC does all this just to lose money.

As far as justifying the $250 that I proposed, sure it could either way, no one knows, jut what I would have wanted and what I would of payed for a properly done Green Lantern.

Thanks for taking the time to respond to me. Would love to go to SDCC one day and discuss... maybe this year!

 

[Matt Bischof]

I have many large scale items that are single injection items that come from a much smaller price point. A entrance ramp, announcers table, surfboard.... I could go on. Even the Funko POP! figures, the body is a single injection, from a large mold.... is it not? Those are very large, probably the same size as the fist yet Funko is able to do it for $10. Sure the fist may have a more.... artistic design..... maybe if made more simplistic more constructs could have or should have been done.

"We mentioned at SDCC to those we talked with that we were moving away from spandex and 'classic' looks and moving our DC line into our interpretations of the characters. Similar to how we are handling Marvel. We are not going to go way out to left field with them - the goal is that when you see it you will clearly know who is who, but they will look different than anything previously seen in comics, film." Did you start moving away from the classic look with Green Lantern? Batman is No Mans Land Bats to me, Superman is basically classic Superman, basically pick a year and that figure will work for it. Harley is from the comics, Joker is from the comics. I guess this Green Lantern is his New 52 look? It is just so.... so..... head scratching that SSC starts with five figures in classic attires and then all of sudden they make a switch. It would be like the Star Wars line switching between life like sculpts and animated sculpts for the clone wars.... it makes no sense. As far as displaying these all together that is out the window to (at least for me). You put this figure next to any previous release and you know both are from different eras immediately, heck even my Mom would know the difference. I just do not understand the need or reason to switch "goals" in this line when SSC was doing a great job up to this (although Superman should have had a bigger body, tiny)

Maybe next time for a DC release take fan input??? I know Mattel Design Team does the same on another forum. Ask on facebook, twitter, a poll on here. List some attire choices and at least take into consideration what the fans... the buyers want.

I guess I understand the price point for other figures. Disney upped the price for Star Wars and Marvel if I remember correctly. Did anything happen to DC though? To me, as GeneralZodLives said, it seem as if this is just a price point thrown out to see if it sticks, and right now that price is slipping.

Companies making figures for $150 and less are great. Not asking SSC to do this but asking to put out a figure worth the price being asked. Maybe you could call up ThreeZero and ask the location for there factory if Groovy wont tel you?
As far as Spook goes, sure it is just speculation, but as you said SSC is a business wanting to make a profit so I highly highly doubt SSC would sell figures during Spook and not make any money back or just break even on them. Even at $128 Robin 1966 figure SSC is still making money on, Spook figures are 25% to 40% off, still making money. Or would SSC sell figures for a loss? And lose even more money in employees working probably one of the busiest weeks for SSC whether that be customer service, packing, updating the website, giving out the free figures, etc.... I highly doubt SSC does all this just to lose money.

As far as justifying the $250 that I proposed, sure it could either way, no one knows, jut what I would have wanted and what I would of payed for a properly done Green Lantern.

Thanks for taking the time to respond to me. Would love to go to SDCC one day and discuss... maybe this year!

Some good points as far as single injection. Those Funkos are roto cast PVC I believe (I dont own any so I'm purely guessing), a surfboard is -I'm guessing foam? Picnic tables? One big PVC injection - all are different molds than copper or steel ABS / PVC molds which would be needed for high detailed constructs - and undercuts? Oh boy, you need to break down the sculpt in order for all those nooks and crannies to get injected while retaining the sharpness. Great discussion here and one I think would benefit both of us over a round of drinks at SDCC?

Maybe a year or two from now after we have some more DC figures released we can roundtable on whether this Green Lantern was a fitting transition? Deal?

SSC is not in the business of losing money - correct. Storage of a bunch of product though does cost money - right? It makes sense to move that product, ours, product we distribute. I even know at times our shipping department has randomly inserted figures into people's outbound packages unexpected as a gift. Also - those reward points - thats a loss of potential revenue too - right? I don't have any involvement in those decisions and I'm likely treading on thin water even discussing this. My point being is, like I said, you brought a good analogy on the discounted HT stuff, but I wouldn't invest too much into using that as a metric to what figures cost to make.

I do appreciate the dialogue Jedi. I totally get where you are coming from and I respectfully appreciate the time to reply to me and put your thoughts together. Please do stop by the booth at SDCC or at Celebration (I 'm assuming by your name you'll be there) - lets continue this in person. Some good stuff to discuss.

 

[Groovy34]

I have many large scale items that are single injection items that come from a much smaller price point. A entrance ramp, announcers table, surfboard.... I could go on. Even the Funko POP! figures, the body is a single injection, from a large mold.... is it not? Those are very large, probably the same size as the fist yet Funko is able to do it for $10. Sure the fist may have a more.... artistic design..... maybe if made more simplistic more constructs could have or should have been done.

"We mentioned at SDCC to those we talked with that we were moving away from spandex and 'classic' looks and moving our DC line into our interpretations of the characters. Similar to how we are handling Marvel. We are not going to go way out to left field with them - the goal is that when you see it you will clearly know who is who, but they will look different than anything previously seen in comics, film." Did you start moving away from the classic look with Green Lantern? Batman is No Mans Land Bats to me, Superman is basically classic Superman, basically pick a year and that figure will work for it. Harley is from the comics, Joker is from the comics. I guess this Green Lantern is his New 52 look? It is just so.... so..... head scratching that SSC starts with five figures in classic attires and then all of sudden they make a switch. It would be like the Star Wars line switching between life like sculpts and animated sculpts for the clone wars.... it makes no sense. As far as displaying these all together that is out the window to (at least for me). You put this figure next to any previous release and you know both are from different eras immediately, heck even my Mom would know the difference. I just do not understand the need or reason to switch "goals" in this line when SSC was doing a great job up to this (although Superman should have had a bigger body, tiny)

Maybe next time for a DC release take fan input??? I know Mattel Design Team does the same on another forum. Ask on facebook, twitter, a poll on here. List some attire choices and at least take into consideration what the fans... the buyers want.

I guess I understand the price point for other figures. Disney upped the price for Star Wars and Marvel if I remember correctly. Did anything happen to DC though? To me, as GeneralZodLives said, it seem as if this is just a price point thrown out to see if it sticks, and right now that price is slipping.

Companies making figures for $150 and less are great. Not asking SSC to do this but asking to put out a figure worth the price being asked. Maybe you could call up ThreeZero and ask the location for there factory if Groovy wont tel you?
As far as Spook goes, sure it is just speculation, but as you said SSC is a business wanting to make a profit so I highly highly doubt SSC would sell figures during Spook and not make any money back or just break even on them. Even at $128 Robin 1966 figure SSC is still making money on, Spook figures are 25% to 40% off, still making money. Or would SSC sell figures for a loss? And lose even more money in employees working probably one of the busiest weeks for SSC whether that be customer service, packing, updating the website, giving out the free figures, etc.... I highly doubt SSC does all this just to lose money.

As far as justifying the $250 that I proposed, sure it could either way, no one knows, jut what I would have wanted and what I would of payed for a properly done Green Lantern.

Thanks for taking the time to respond to me. Would love to go to SDCC one day and discuss... maybe this year!

Jedi sweetie your wasting your breath. They already made there mind up. And sure a poll on here would give a rough scientific estimate how the overall public would gauge it. Since we are the toughest audience to please.

The only way sideshow will figure this is out is on there own. It's like a child not that I'm saying sideshow is being child like so no one get it twisted.

Like most parents can probably attest to. Are advice/comments is a lot like a parent trying to protect a child. Problem is the child never learns. Sometime you have to let them fall down it's the only way to let them grow up.

Sideshow is trying this with GL and it's a big gamble but they won't know if it's a failure until the results show it was a miss not a hit out of the ballpark.

I give advice to various companies. Sometimes they use them and I see they are working because some things I see sell out. And occasionally I get an email thanking me for the tip. Other companies want to do there own thing and see what happens. That's sideshow.

 

[Matt Bischof]

I have to give it to you Matt, willing to continue the dialog and even offer to continue it in person is a class act move, especially since the tension in the room could have had you running the other way.

So since you mentioned Marvel, any chance you could give us a heads up on that license, since we've only had one release since the line was shown at SDCC? I know this isn't the thread for it but you're here so...


Any chance we'll see a figure up for order before this year's SDCC or should be wait until then AND if we are waiting until then will more be shown than last year? Thanks!

All good Mike. I am not intimidated by people behind a keyboard...if you come to the booth with a baseball bat, well - that may present a better intimidation factor. I like to be optimistic that everyone here is cool in person. People tend to get overtly calibrated when things they are passionate about get tweaked with. It's not like we designed a three pronged lightsaber - I would have second thoughts about engaging that discussion if my last name was Abrams.

Will I get banned for committing heresy and discussing Marvel on this thread...I suppose no reason to stop ticking off people now.

Deadpool is kneedeep in fine tuning the tooling (plastic parts) and the fabric parts. We will be moving into the deco stage shortly. So far I am quite happy with how DP is coming along.

Wolverine's torso threw us a bit of a curveball so we had to figure out some engineering which took a little bit longer than we had hoped. With that said Punisher whom you saw previewed in the announcement video will be completed before Wolverine and will likely be up for order before Wolverine. Will that be before SDCC? I'm not sure, but he will be at SDCC barring any unforeseen issues.

Will more be shown at SDCC? Well - we are still gauging how much development we can complete and get through licensing before the show. San Diego is a scant three months away so we will keep plugging away on all licenses so we can share with you.

 

[amos brearly]

Matt,
thanks so much for offering us this insight into how these figures come about. I sincerely appreciate your posts and you taking the time to share your comments and thoughts.

How many figures ahead do you guys plan? do you have a plan for the next 12/18 months or so?

i personally have enjoyed all the SSC DC figures thus far and look forward to hearing of more soon. Please keep Robin in your thoughts for future figures any version.

 

[Matt Bischof]

Jedi sweetie your wasting your breath. They already made there mind up. And sure a poll on here would give a rough scientific estimate how the overall public would gauge it. Since we are the toughest audience to please.

The only way sideshow will figure this is out is on there own. It's like a child not that I'm saying sideshow is being child like so no one get it twisted.

Like most parents can probably attest to. Are advice/comments is a lot like a parent trying to protect a child. Problem is the child never learns. Sometime you have to let them fall down it's the only way to let them grow up.

Sideshow is trying this with GL and it's a big gamble but they won't know if it's a failure until the results show it was a miss not a hit out of the ballpark.

I give advice to various companies. Sometimes they use them and I see they are working because some things I see sell out. And occasionally I get an email thanking me for the tip. Other companies want to do there own thing and see what happens. That's sideshow.

Might I kindly ask what company do you work for? Through your various posts you speak as though you work in this industry? Freelance work? - where can I see the work you have done which has been produced? I'm just curious - thanks!

 

[Matt Bischof]

Matt,
thanks so much for offering us this insight into how these figures come about. I sincerely appreciate your posts and you taking the time to share your comments and thoughts.

How many figures ahead do you guys plan? do you have a plan for the next 12/18 months or so?

i personally have enjoyed all the SSC DC figures thus far and look forward to hearing of more soon. Please keep Robin in your thoughts for future figures any version.

Amos - we are getting ready to define our 2017 development now if that gives you an idea.

 

[dario2739]

Outfit - what is this? We mentioned at SDCC to those we talked with that we were moving away from spandex and 'classic' looks and moving our DC line into our interpretations of the characters. Similar to how we are handling Marvel. We are not going to go way out to left field with them - the goal is that when you see it you will clearly know who is who, but they will look different than anything previously seen in comics, film.

Again, good to see you coming on here Matt, but again your answers just come across as company pr releases - apologies, nothing personal, it's just how they seem.
The answer quoted for example – I'd be fine with this answer, and SSC doing 'artistic interpretations', however this comment is strange as you have released Catwoman, Harley Quinn, The Joker, Superman and 2 Batman figures in the line so far... all of which are comic accurate and wear spandex (for the heroes) – why all of a sudden would you throw in an 'artistic interpretation'? And let's face it, the only thing different on GL is the material his suit is made from - and i'd be fine with that if the green material wasn't textured... and the more I look at the photos of him, the more his boots bother me – they should be more snug fitting like Batman and Superman's boot, instead it looks like he's wearing his wellies!
So for all the research on this figure, how come this guy, by Evilface in the SSC 1/6th Wolverine thread, looks better..?



Also worth noting that i've only seen Wolverine and Deadpool from the Marvel range and they look damn comic accurate to me – at least with Wolverine's leather on his suit, it matches his boots!

 

[DeltaForceChung]

Okay, point taken....

...now let's compare them to DC Direct 13" figs...

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And to think how far off the discussion could have been if the Sideshow GL may have been a DC DIRECT 13" offering that was aborted and Sideshow picked it up on the cheap.

 

[DeltaForceChung]

Again, good to see you coming on here Matt, but again your answers just come across as company pr releases - apologies, nothing personal, it's just how they seem.

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Exactly.