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I liked Enterprise. It got pretty good once they let Manny Coto take over. Too bad it was stuck on the completely WRONG network.

I liked '09 as well. Into Darkness, not so much. We didn't need a blatant TWOK knock off (especially since they already piss-poorly did that with Nemesis), and it wrapped itself up far too cleanly. It started out pretty good, too - all the way through to the Klingon homeworld, I was on board. I was really, REALLY hoping he wasn't Khan though. That just killed the whole thing.
 
I also liked 'Enterprise'. :duff
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I agree, and I'm not sure that CBS would've been the right home for it either. But UPN catered to a completely different demographic. IIRC, there were no other dramas on the network that were anything worth writing home about - the only success they really had was with sitcoms. And their target audience didn't seem to be "young and hip," it was urban. Not that I care, but Trek isn't urban, no matter how young and hip it's trying to be.
 
I'm not sure what to think of the trailer. Nothing in it really grabbed my attention except the Enterprise getting destroyed (good because I hate the abramsprise) and the new uniforms.
The scene from ST 2009 with Sabbotage was great, but I don't think it needed to be wasted in the ST Beyond trailer.
I'll definitely see this (never missed a ST movie in the theater) so it doesn't matter how good the trailer was, but it didn't do anything to get me excited to see ST Beyond.
 
I agree, and I'm not sure that CBS would've been the right home for it either. But UPN catered to a completely different demographic. IIRC, there were no other dramas on the network that were anything worth writing home about - the only success they really had was with sitcoms. And their target audience didn't seem to be "young and hip," it was urban. Not that I care, but Trek isn't urban, no matter how young and hip it's trying to be.

Um, I'm not sure where you were located back then, but for me in Southern California at the time KCOP-TV was the home of Star Trek Next Gen and Deep Space 9. When KCOP turned into UPN, it was no surprise it continued to be the home of future Star Trek shows because the network originated in Southern California.
 
Um, I'm not sure where you were located back then, but for me in Southern California at the time KCOP-TV was the home of Star Trek Next Gen and Deep Space 9. When KCOP turned into UPN, it was no surprise it continued to be the home of future Star Trek shows because the network originated in Southern California.


Well, I remember at the time UPN being an odd fit because of its target demographic. Maybe that was everywhere else but SoCal.
 
Um, I'm not sure where you were located back then, but for me in Southern California at the time KCOP-TV was the home of Star Trek Next Gen and Deep Space 9. When KCOP turned into UPN, it was no surprise it continued to be the home of future Star Trek shows because the network originated in Southern California.

Well, I remember at the time UPN being an odd fit because of its target demographic. Maybe that was everywhere else but SoCal.

Here in DC, Star Trek stayed on the same channel too - "technically." it was WDCA-TV 20, and it turned into UPN just like how you're describing. And yup, TNG and DS9 were on the same channel. It was the other shows that changed, as well as the marketing of them. Pre-UPN, I watched that network all the time when I got home from school; they played repeats of sitcoms like Family Matters, Full House, etc, and then at 7 PM they showed TNG repeats. Had it on every day.

Then it switched to UPN, and all the shows I liked watching started to gradually disappear. There were a couple shows I liked on UPN besides Trek, to be sure - The Sentinel, for one. But by the end, it was all Girlfriends and WWE Smackdown (I'm not quite sure who would watch both of those, but I guess I'm not them). I remember seeing the network commercials in the last two years of Enterprise and thinking "WTF is this crap?" But maybe that's just me. Perhaps if you were within their target demographic, you wouldn't have noticed. That's pretty common - when you're being focused on, you don't realize that it's not for everyone. I'm not trying to insult you by any means, it's a fallacy we all share.

It's funny, since UPN disappeared, FOX bought the local station, and now it's back to repeats of shows I like (LOTS of The Simpsons, for one, and some Big Bang Theory) and the occasional Redskins game for the local market when the game's on ESPN or NFL Network. So I tune in again!
 
Wow, that trailer. Wow. I don't know what's going on, but i was not interested at all. Why is this new enterprise always getting hit with stuff? What kind of a captain is this new Kirk? I still don't buy the whole Spock/Uhura thing.
 
Wow, that trailer. Wow. I don't know what's going on, but i was not interested at all. Why is this new enterprise always getting hit with stuff? What kind of a captain is this new Kirk? I still don't buy the whole Spock/Uhura thing.

Yeah.....is space too expensive? It is called STAR TREK? I really like the new movies, but this one seem to be saying we are going to make an away mission movie....destroy the Enterprise (again) and make it a land based film.

I always love the idea that Star Trek is essentially a sci fi high seas military type adventure.....you know on a SHIP!!!!!
 


I too was mislead by the trailer thinking the movie is only going to be an action piece, but Simon Pegg is saying that there is much more to the movie than what was shown in the trailer.
 
what???? you mean theres more to the movie than whats shown in the 2 minute trailer......what a bold new concept, I mean judging a movie totally by whats not in a trailer....
 
Did you see the pleading look in his face? Wow, he really thinks the trailer did the film no favours. It certainly didn't paint a good picture.
 
Yeah.....is space too expensive? It is called STAR TREK? I really like the new movies, but this one seem to be saying we are going to make an away mission movie....destroy the Enterprise (again) and make it a land based film.

I always love the idea that Star Trek is essentially a sci fi high seas military type adventure.....you know on a SHIP!!!!!

It's funny, on TOS, I'd say half of the shows, if not more, were based 90% on a planet.

Has anyone read the excellent Making of TOS books by Marc Cushman? A fascinating read that goes through the whole series episode-by-episode. I don't agree with some of his basic premise (That TOS was doing just fine ratings-wise, and the network killed it regardless because it hated Roddenberry), but one of the interesting things is that the network liason, Stan Robertson, PUSHED continuously to get stories down on the planet as much as possible, because that's the whole concept of "exploring strange new worlds," not the same old sets we've seen over and over again. So....it's not like planet-side is a new thing. And considering these new movies have spent extremely little time on planets, I'm all for it.
 
I didn't mind the trailer but I'll probably stay away from them as much as I can before I see the movie. Did that with Star Wars and glad I did.
 
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