Star Trek: Picard

[Skyroes]

Finally had time today to watch.

Guess we got the answer in the cameo.

Spoiler

So with the revelation of the Changelings evolution maybe that explains why their shape shifting looks different? At least it’s a bit of head canon I came up with.

I’m liking Shaw more every episode. His smart assery is awesome. I need to look into what else this actor has done.

Ro was awesome and I think it was a perfect end to the character and a tying up of her and Picard’s storyline. Really liked that she was Worf’s Handeler.

I can’t figure out Jack. That Crusher doesn’t know something is going on with him doesn’t seem right to me. I don’t mean him acting weird, it’s whatever secret is going on. I would think she would know.

Theory due to the whispering he hears that CC reveals is Crusher’s voice. That he is a Changeling and doesn’t know it. Like the link is calling out to him in his mother’s voice. That backed up with him knowing people are Changelings, and that one crew member who said he knows what he is in his vision. Only thing not making sense is his eyes going red.

I loved seeing the non Starfleet side of things this week. The Logical Vulcan gangster was amazing IMO. Even if the Worf bluff was able to be seen a mile away. Leaning real hard into the stereotypical warrior monk stuff. Although I did love him sparring Raffi and his one handed easy blocking of her attacks.

We are pass due for a Geordi appearance.

I don’t know what is going on with Jack either but I hope he is what we were led to believe (Picard’s son) and not a changeling cop out.

The return of Ro Laren was unexpected and a welcome surprise (Michelle Forbes looks great). I’m not really sure I buy the whole story about how she got back into Starfleet (again) given her twice stained record but it’s not a big deal. The exchange between her and Picard made this episode and it was a nice callback to Preemptive Strike of TNG.
Her sacrifice at the end really upped the conspiracy factor, it’s going to be interesting to see how one ship takes on a comprised Starfleet.

Has it hit anyone yet that we only have 4 more episodes left before this ride comes to an end? Enjoy it while it lasts.

 

[Johnny Utah]

5 episodes dude. 10 episode season.

 

[e30ernest]

So regarding Daystrom Station...

Spoiler

I wonder if the "AI" guarding it is Moriarty. Krinn said the AI had somewhat illogical weaknesses. We know Moriarty is going to show up, so I wonder if it is going to be when they arrive at Daystrom Station.

 

[jedibear]

I resisted as long as I could. I know, hoary ST cliché, but resistance is indeed futile. After hearing over and over again how great this show is this season, I just binged the first four episodes. I'm simply STUNNED at the 180 in quality...it's been FANTASTIC. The acting, the tone, the writing...just, wow.

I really hate the Kurtzman Trek universe and Picard especially just became more unwatchable as it went on...I couldn't even make it past two episodes of the second season - just awful. STD is the worst and while SNW was - okay, I sense that's about to become as bad as Discovery when it starts back up.

But I see that although Kurtzman's name is still in the credits, somehow a new team is putting this show out this year and yes, what a difference. So far, it's truly feeling like a worthy send-off to the Next Gen crew. Especially enjoying Seven and Worf. Heck everyone is doing a great job. Here's hoping that the quality keeps going for the remaining episodes. It would be nice to have one beloved franchise end well instead of being decimated by agenda and destroyed be non-creatives who have no business making shows and movies.

Okay, time to watch that episode I haven't seen yet.

 

[Skyroes]

So regarding Daystrom Station...

Spoiler

I wonder if the "AI" guarding it is Moriarty. Krinn said the AI had somewhat illogical weaknesses. We know Moriarty is going to show up, so I wonder if it is going to be when they arrive at Daystrom Station.

I’m thinking they illicit his help to overcome the AI, as he was the only thing that could outwit Data in TNG.

After watching this weeks episode a second time, I’m wondering if Beverly knows more than she’s leading on. The whole reference to Jack’s nightmares as a child, perhaps he inherited Picard’s Irumodic Syndrome gene and she resequenced his genetic structure with DNA resistant to the gene. He has some sort of telepathic connection with whatever is reaching out to him.

Alternatively, the only time that I recall us seeing red eyes in Trek was a direct result of the Pah-wraiths.

 

[e30ernest]

I’m thinking they illicit his help to overcome the AI, as he was the only thing that could outwit Data in TNG.

After watching this weeks episode a second time, I’m wondering if Beverly knows more than she’s leading on. The whole reference to Jack’s nightmares as a child, perhaps he inherited Picard’s Irumodic Syndrome gene and she resequenced his genetic structure with DNA resistant to the gene. He has some sort of telepathic connection with whatever is reaching out to him.

Alternatively, the only time that I recall us seeing red eyes in Trek was a direct result of the Pah-wraiths.

You might be on to something there. I think you may be right about all that.

 

[Skyroes]

I really hate the Kurtzman Trek universe and Picard especially just became more unwatchable as it went on...I couldn't even make it past two episodes of the second season - just awful. STD is the worst and while SNW was - okay, I sense that's about to become as bad as Discovery when it starts back up.

But I see that although Kurtzman's name is still in the credits, somehow a new team is putting this show out this year and yes, what a difference. So far, it's truly feeling like a worthy send-off to the Next Gen crew. Especially enjoying Seven and Worf. Heck everyone is doing a great job. Here's hoping that the quality keeps going for the remaining episodes. It would be nice to have one beloved franchise end well instead of being decimated by agenda and destroyed be non-creatives who have no business making shows and movies.

Okay, time to watch that episode I haven't seen yet.

I thought SNW had a surprisingly successful first season and the finale was a nice callback to TOS. I think they’ve learned what the fans want to see.

You might be on to something there. I think you may be right about all that.

Or it’ll be something completely out of left field.

 

[Kebron]

GOD D@$&!! How do they do it every week? Another episode better than the last. And Fan service that doesn’t feel pandering (all though one almost did). So much nostalgia this episode.

Spoiler

So Jack isn’t a changeling but I don’t buy that the syndrome is the cause for the visions or his abilities.
Going to just be random cause I don’t have a lot of time to type.

That scene where the reunite with Worf perfect. Riker and Worf might have better chemistry than Riker and Picard, “Annual bottle of sour mead”.Love the whole interaction. The Geordi one was good too just not as good as Worf’s IMO. Nostalgia ships, Easter eggs in the Daystrom station, it’s like a Lower Decks episode offering deep dives into Trek lore. Attack Tribble!
I like how they handled Moriaty. Verdict still out on the Data 2.0 mixer. Geordi expressing every parent’s thought on wanting to do something while protecting family, then his daughter coming in with just as valid POV. Jack and Seven geeking out over the ships. Shaw geeking out over Geordi. I guess the Changelings are the real villains. Part of me thinks it’s still a red herring for bigger villain, but with Shrike being a Changeling too, it’s looking like it might not be. Why does Starfleet keep famous Captain’s bodies in ice? Why did the Changelings need the Picsrdcicle? I’m sure I skipped stuff. But damn this show just keeps making me happy every week.

 

[Johnny Utah]

Another great episode. This season is amazing.

 

[MyenShi]

It’s been really nice to have a Star Trek show to look forward to in this way. Feels quite special. And not having a mystery box drawn out over and over again helps a lot. It’s nice to actually get answers to questions at good intervals.

And I gotta say I really appreciate the proper use of music; especially the Voyager theme for that nice moment with Seven on the bridge.

It really shows just how much more care went into this season versus PIC S1 when it played as she transported into a bar to Phasers Akimbo some people we have zero connection to.

 

[e30ernest]

Another overall excellent episode. This season is firing on all cylinders!

 

[HPGR_Thrawn]

These episodes are so good! Loving the mix of character moments with the larger narrative. Couple little nitpicky things, like several lines of repeated dialogue: I get it, the changlings stole something even more important that the portal gun! This is like the 6th time a character has said this revelation.

But the emotional beats are firing on all cylinders and I am FEELING FEELINGS.

 

[Kebron]

It really shows just how much more care went into this season versus PIC S1 when it played as she transported into a bar to Phasers Akimbo some people we have zero connection to.

IMO Matalas is just like one of us, and that’s what a big difference is between this season and the previous seasons.

He’s a fan of the show. Maybe even a super fan. He really cares what people think and he’s even been on some podcast and streams that aren’t “Hollywood” type streams.

He was even in the chat on SixthScale Mafia’s live stream a few weeks ago. Just hanging out.

I know the general rule is “fans don’t make good creators”, and that maybe true. But this is a prime example that sometimes it does work.

 

[Heavy Metal Spike]

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S03E06 - "The Bounty"

Seriously folks - could this be a more of an emotive rollercoaster . . . I actually felt my eyes fill up on NUMEROUS occasions this week - particularly at one of the storage bays (it'll be obvious to those of you that went through that bit in slow motion).

In all honesty, I don't think I have EVER felt more attached and emotionally involved with a Star Trek show - EVER . . . and that is coming from someone that places TOS & DS9 on a pedestal, and right at the VERY top of his fanboy list.

Absolute perfection

 

[Skyroes]

Just finished watching. I’m still processing this episode, 52 minutes goes by fast when you’re sucked into a story like this.

All predictions are off the table now, the big reveal is that they stole Picard’s body, WHAT? I can’t figure that one out unless there’s some remanence of Borg technology in him, what other reason would you specifically need that particular body?
Prior to this, I was kind of forgetting about the whole synthetic Picard thing.

The relic ships were a really nice touch but they missed an opportunity here to show a TNG era Enterprise. This is a TNG send off after all. We know the D’s saucer is there from Season 2 and there’s literally no mention of what happened to the E at all. I guess we’re not going to get a “Second Star to the Right, Straight on 'til Morning" moment.

Anyone catch James T. Kirk on one of the displays on Daystorm? Not sure how much sense that made given that Picard buried him on Veridian III in Generations.

Loved seeing the reunification of the crew - long overdue.

There’s definitely more going on with Jack than just Irumodic Syndrome. What’s the connection between them wanting Jack and Picard’s body? Mind boggling.

It’s going to be a long wait until next Thursday!

 

[Skyroes]

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In all honesty, I don't think I have EVER felt more attached and emotionally involved with a Star Trek show - EVER . . . and that is coming from someone that places TOS & DS9 on a pedestal, and right at the VERY top of his fanboy list.

That’s by design. They’re incorporating all the fondness from the past through all the member berries they’re throwing at you from all the series that came before. Anyone who likes DS9 is going to light up seeing the Defiant on screen again, which invokes all the fondness you have for that series. Same for the Enterprise A, Voyager, etc.

All that nostalgia is intoxicating lol.

 

[davejames]

Yeah the fan service was definitely off the charts in this episode, but I can live with it if it means finally getting to see the Enterprise-A onscreen again for the first time in 32 years.

 

[Skyroes]

Theory:

“Dad, what about Hangar Bay 12?”

Geordi has long since refurbished the Saucer section of the Enterprise D and worked on attaching it to a decommissioned Galaxy star drive to add his own ship to his museum project. There was an empty ring on the outside of the starbase which perhaps was designated for that purpose.

Why Picard’s body was stolen.

We know from First Contact that Picard had a residual connection with the Collective (he could still hear them). Some form of Borg technology remains.

They stole Picard’s body to reactivate Locutus and take control of an “integrated” fleet. Just feels like there’s some Borg angle involved here even though it was already used in Season 2.

The ships being integrated will be a major plot point for Frontier Day and a reason for breaking one or more of the legacy ships out of the museum.

Will we see the crew on the bridge of the Enteprise one last time to save the day? Seems rational given a James T. Kirk being held on ice.

 

[e30ernest]

Theory:

“Dad, what about Hangar Bay 12?”

Geordi has long since refurbished the Saucer section of the Enterprise D and worked on attaching it to a decommissioned Galaxy star drive to add his own ship
to his museum project. There was an empty ring on the outside of the starbase which perhaps was designated for that purpose.

Why Picard’s body was stolen.

We know from First Contact that Picard had a residual connection with the Collective (he could still hear them). Some form of Borg technology remains.

They stole Picard’s body to reactive Locutus and take control of an “integrated” fleet. Just feels like there’s some Borg angle involved here even though it was already used in Season 2.

The ships being integrated will be a major plot point for Frontier Day and a reason for breaking one or more of the legacy ships out of the museum.

Will we see the crew on the bridge of the Enteprise one last time to save the day? Seems rational given a James T. Kirk being held on ice.
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I was actually thinking the same thing. It's either

Spoiler

Enterprise D or E, but I am betting it's the D given how Shaw referenced it in the turbolift

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[Johnny Utah]

Seeing the D somehow again in the show would be insane. A great way to say goodbye, with the crew back on the bridge one last time.

The nostalgia overload would be overwhelming!!!

I know already I'll be in bits watching the last episode.