Star Trek: Picard

[punisher1974]

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Yes Kirk would have just stolen a ship but Picard had more diplomacy. I like Kirk’s style more but you have to give Picard his due for trying things the more legal way.

 

[jrice73]

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Yes Kirk would have just stolen a ship but Picard had more diplomacy. I like Kirk’s style more but you have to give Picard his due for trying things the more legal way.

Totally agree with you but I would have loved it if someone had said to Picard that he should pull a Kirk and steal the Enterprise-E out of drydock.

 

[a-dev]

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Oh yeah, is the Enterprise E still the Federation flagship in this series? I don't remember it being mentioned yet....

 

[e30ernest]

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Oh yeah, is the Enterprise E still the Federation flagship in this series? I don't remember it being mentioned yet....

If they're keeping the Star Trek prelude book canon, then the Enterprise E would have been destroyed and they would now be using the Enterprise F (which was introduced in Star Trek Online). I think there was a prequel book on the Picard series and he was the captain of an Odyssey class ship, which was the same class the Enterprise F would be.

 

[punisher1974]

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Totally agree with you but I would have loved it if someone had said to Picard that he should pull a Kirk and steal the Enterprise-E out of drydock.

I would have enjoyed that too.

 

[Prime Clone]

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Anyone else think they should have mentioned the Eugenics Wars at some point, i.e. "It was the second time humanity had faced a revolt by beings of its own making."

 

[punisher1974]

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I need to read those books about Khan and the Eugenics war. I always thought it was cool for the backstory in earth history.

 

[e30ernest]

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Anyone else think they should have mentioned the Eugenics Wars at some point, i.e. "It was the second time humanity had faced a revolt by beings of its own making."

Yeah there are parallels to that here. But, the eugenics war also had an ethical issue behind it (modifying humans).

This one though... I don't think "AI" applies to them yet. These robots seem more like an advanced version of Siri or Alexa compared to the sentience we see in Data/Dahj. What happened (from what we see) is akin to a starship's main computer getting malware and causing it to open fire on other ships and then self destruct.

 

[SilverStar17]

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Oh yeah, is the Enterprise E still the Federation flagship in this series? I don't remember it being mentioned yet....

I was thinking that as well. What Enterprise is the Federation on now?

Totally agree with you but I would have loved it if someone had said to Picard that he should pull a Kirk and steal the Enterprise-E out of drydock.

I’d love for them to make a reference to Kirk, or for Picard himself to make a reference to Kirk. For instance, when he was lamenting in the first episode how all he’s been doing lately is waiting to die, I thought it would have been cool if he said something along the lines of as an old friend once told me, ever since I took that promotion to Admiral, I haven’t made a difference.

 

[a-dev]

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Just googled the Enterprise F




Looks like the offspring of Enterprise E and the USS Voyager.

 

[Prime Clone]

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Yeah there are parallels to that here. But, the eugenics war also had an ethical issue behind it (modifying humans).

This one though... I don't think "AI" applies to them yet. These robots seem more like an advanced version of Siri or Alexa compared to the sentience we see in Data/Dahj. What happened (from what we see) is akin to a starship's main computer getting malware and causing it to open fire on other ships and then self destruct.

I actually thought Ep 2 was making the point the synths were more sentient than the humans gave them credit for.

Spoiler

Also, that synth committing suicide suggested a deeper level of awareness of his own actions.

 

[e30ernest]

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I actually thought Ep 2 was making the point the synths were more sentient than the humans gave them credit for.

Spoiler

Also, that synth committing suicide suggested a deeper level of awareness of his own actions.

I thought he committed suicide due to the malware to hide evidence of the tampering on his programming (commanded by the attacker to cover his tracks) rather than an act of guilt.

Just googled the Enterprise F

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Looks like the offspring of Enterprise E and the USS Voyager.

It's one of the more beautiful ship designs in Star Trek Online IMO:



The twin-keel design is weird, but everything just flows on that ship. I also love the huge bridge.

 

[Prime Clone]

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I thought he committed suicide due to the malware to hide evidence of the tampering on his programming (commanded by the attacker to cover his tracks) rather than an act of guilt.

You're probably right. I thought it was due to his breaking one of the laws of robotics.

 

[e30ernest]

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I just watched episode 3. I found the editing on this one quite wonky. There are multiple times where they changed camera angles and there is no continuity in the body positions of actors (Patrick Stewart especially). Took me out of the moment at times. Also, I am not liking the new characters introduced here. Their motivations/emotions/actions look forced.

 

[Prime Clone]

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Anyone else notice the Matrix-style digital rain on Raffi's holo-display?

 

[e30ernest]

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Also, anyone find it weird that someone had a cigar and someone else was vaping in this show? I thought they no longer smoked in the Star Trek era?

 

[Prime Clone]

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^ 24th century hipsterism?

 

[e30ernest]

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Ok a few more things I don't get....

Spoiler

The Federation is supposed to be a money-less society. Why is Raffi:
1. Living in the equivalent of a trailer because of an apparent loss of livelihood
2. Bitter toward's Picard's comfortable life out of Starfleet?

In a money-less economy, would it matter if she was still in Starfleet or not? Does this mean there are still "poor" people on Earth? Also, couldn't she just do something else? As the former First Officer of a Starfleet vessel, she is bound to be a very skilled and intelligent individual. Why didn't she get other work in the civilian sector?

This episode just soured me towards this series.

 

[ZE_501]

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Ok a few more things I don't get....

Spoiler

The Federation is supposed to be a money-less society. Why is Raffi:
1. Living in the equivalent of a trailer because of an apparent loss of livelihood
2. Bitter toward's Picard's comfortable life out of Starfleet?

In a money-less economy, would it matter if she was still in Starfleet or not? Does this mean there are still "poor" people on Earth? Also, couldn't she just do something else? As the former First Officer of a Starfleet vessel, she is bound to be a very skilled and intelligent individual. Why didn't she get other work in the civilian sector?

This episode just soured me towards this series.

All of that. They appear to be playing very fast and loose with canonical foundations in what looks like a transparently desperate attempt to be relevant and contemporary.

The narrative machinery itself isn?t so bad by this episode. Fun albeit predictable, pulling us along as expected.

But it?s their foundation that has me wondering WTF.

I?ve watched Trek since TOS reruns when I was a kid, but I?m not a super-fan. Have to wonder what the true fandom thinks across the board since this doesn?t feel right.


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[a-dev]

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@ e30ernest

Maybe she had been cancelled