Star Wars: Ahsoka

[Dave_W]

"Hey everybody! Wow, thank you for making me feel welcome. Where were you 20 years ago?"

 

[ajp4mgs]

I just started Rebels for real this time I need to stick with it if i’m going to understand anything with Ahsoka.

It’s just that I feel like i’m watching Handy Manny.

I’ll concentrate more.

The more you concentrate, the worse it'll be. Just turn your brain off if you want to get through it. I'll summarize the whole series for you below and try to give you some idea of what I mean.

There's a small Rebellion crew with a former Jedi padawan as part of it. This Jedi encounters an orphaned kid who is super strong with the Force (no, not Qui-Gon meets Anakin; no, not Obi-Wan meets Luke; no - dammit, jye - not Rey meets Luke... this is totally different, okay? The kid's name is Ezra).

Kanan trains Ezra until the kid has more mastery of the Force than Luke ever did in the OT (yes, you read that correctly; wait, what do you mean "saga plot logic problems?" Nah).

The crew meets Ahsoka (yes, also very powerful with the Force, wields lightsabers, and very much active during the time Kenobi and Yoda are hiding and waiting for a new hope to... ohhhhhhhhhh... eh, let's move on).

Ezra has to watch her duel Vader where she presumably gets killed. But this kid is so special (hmmm) that he opens a secret Jedi cave years later and finds time portals there. He plucks Ahsoka out of that duel with Vader and they both run back to their original timelines (yes, that's right, jye: there *have* to be two different timelines as a result now because a casaul loop alternative would be horrendous).

They have to run because they're trying to get away from Palpatine (yes, he's aware of Ezra and Ahsoka being in the time portal place. Huh? What implications? ... ohhhhhhhhhh).

Ezra Force-Skypes with Yoda (yes, the same Yoda who is hiding on Dagobah just twiddling his pecker because there are no special Force-powered potential Jedi left to train until Luke is ready). He also encounters Obi-Wan on Tatooine (yep).

At the end of the series, the kid outsmarts the most intelligent being in the galaxy, Thrawn, and communicates with hyperspace-capable space whales to transport Thrawn and an entire star destroyer into the Unknown Regions (yes, I understand that the concept of hyperspace involves technology opening wormhole portals which distort spacetime; yes, these are indeed *very* special space whales).

The kid and Thrawn are now missing in uncharted space, but Ahsoka shows up in an epilogue and recruits one of Ezra's crewmates, Sabine, to go hunt for him and Thrawn. Ahsoka has an owl with her. The owl is connected to a Force goddess who was part of a three-god order controlling balance in the entire universe. One of the times that Ahsoka died, life energy from the Force goddess was used to revive her. And because of how super special Ahsoka is (hmmmm... I see), the magic owl follows her around and even guided Ezra to save Ahsoka from Vader in that time portal place.

No, I did not make any of this up. Enjoy the show, bud!

 

[ajp4mgs]

"Hey everybody! Wow, thank you for making me feel welcome. Where were you 20 years ago?"

They were in grade school, still learning to read and write.

 

[ironwez20]

Lol we didn’t care what the ot purist said. We were all blown away by episode 3 and loved the downfall of anakin

 

[Dave_W]

They were in grade school, still learning to read and write.

"Then tell your dad to go...himself" *mic drop*

 

[ZE_501]

The more you concentrate, the worse it'll be. Just turn your brain off if you want to get through it. I'll summarize the whole series for you below and try to give you some idea of what I mean.

There's a small Rebellion crew with a former Jedi padawan as part of it. This Jedi encounters an orphaned kid who is super strong with the Force (no, not Qui-Gon meets Anakin; no, not Obi-Wan meets Luke; no - dammit, jye - not Rey meets Luke... this is totally different, okay? The kid's name is Ezra).

Kanan trains Ezra until the kid has more mastery of the Force than Luke ever did in the OT (yes, you read that correctly; wait, what do you mean "saga plot logic problems?" Nah).

The crew meets Ahsoka (yes, also very powerful with the Force, wields lightsabers, and very much active during the time Kenobi and Yoda are hiding and waiting for a new hope to... ohhhhhhhhhh... eh, let's move on).

Ezra has to watch her duel Vader where she presumably gets killed. But this kid is so special (hmmm) that he opens a secret Jedi cave years later and finds time portals there. He plucks Ahsoka out of that duel with Vader and they both run back to their original timelines (yes, that's right, jye: there *have* to be two different timelines as a result now because a casaul loop alternative would be horrendous).

They have to run because they're trying to get away from Palpatine (yes, he's aware of Ezra and Ahsoka being in the time portal place. Huh? What implications? ... ohhhhhhhhhh).

Ezra Force-Skypes with Yoda (yes, the same Yoda who is hiding on Dagobah just twiddling his pecker because there are no special Force-powered potential Jedi left to train until Luke is ready). He also encounters Obi-Wan on Tatooine (yep).

At the end of the series, the kid outsmarts the most intelligent being in the galaxy, Thrawn, and communicates with hyperspace-capable space whales to transport Thrawn and an entire star destroyer into the Unknown Regions (yes, I understand that the concept of hyperspace involves technology opening wormhole portals which distort spacetime; yes, these are indeed *very* special space whales).

The kid and Thrawn are now missing in uncharted space, but Ahsoka shows up in an epilogue and recruits one of Ezra's crewmates, Sabine, to go hunt for him and Thrawn. Ahsoka has an owl with her. The owl is connected to a Force goddess who was part of a three-god order controlling balance in the entire universe. One of the times that Ahsoka died, life energy from the Force goddess was used to revive her. And because of how super special Ahsoka is (hmmmm... I see), the magic owl follows her around and even guided Ezra to save Ahsoka from Vader in that time portal place.

No, I did not make any of this up. Enjoy the show, bud!

Huh. I don't remember some of this, maybe I didn't watch all of Rebels after all. I thought some of this was in Clone Wars for some reason.

But a casual observer can see why I don't like Filoni's work or even his general approach to Star Wars. Or his hat. I hate his hat.

 

[jye4ever]

The more you concentrate, the worse it'll be. Just turn your brain off if you want to get through it. I'll summarize the whole series for you below and try to give you some idea of what I mean.

There's a small Rebellion crew with a former Jedi padawan as part of it. This Jedi encounters an orphaned kid who is super strong with the Force (no, not Qui-Gon meets Anakin; no, not Obi-Wan meets Luke; no - dammit, jye - not Rey meets Luke... this is totally different, okay? The kid's name is Ezra).

Kanan trains Ezra until the kid has more mastery of the Force than Luke ever did in the OT (yes, you read that correctly; wait, what do you mean "saga plot logic problems?" Nah).

The crew meets Ahsoka (yes, also very powerful with the Force, wields lightsabers, and very much active during the time Kenobi and Yoda are hiding and waiting for a new hope to... ohhhhhhhhhh... eh, let's move on).

Ezra has to watch her duel Vader where she presumably gets killed. But this kid is so special (hmmm) that he opens a secret Jedi cave years later and finds time portals there. He plucks Ahsoka out of that duel with Vader and they both run back to their original timelines (yes, that's right, jye: there *have* to be two different timelines as a result now because a casaul loop alternative would be horrendous).

They have to run because they're trying to get away from Palpatine (yes, he's aware of Ezra and Ahsoka being in the time portal place. Huh? What implications? ... ohhhhhhhhhh).

Ezra Force-Skypes with Yoda (yes, the same Yoda who is hiding on Dagobah just twiddling his pecker because there are no special Force-powered potential Jedi left to train until Luke is ready). He also encounters Obi-Wan on Tatooine (yep).

At the end of the series, the kid outsmarts the most intelligent being in the galaxy, Thrawn, and communicates with hyperspace-capable space whales to transport Thrawn and an entire star destroyer into the Unknown Regions (yes, I understand that the concept of hyperspace involves technology opening wormhole portals which distort spacetime; yes, these are indeed *very* special space whales).

The kid and Thrawn are now missing in uncharted space, but Ahsoka shows up in an epilogue and recruits one of Ezra's crewmates, Sabine, to go hunt for him and Thrawn. Ahsoka has an owl with her. The owl is connected to a Force goddess who was part of a three-god order controlling balance in the entire universe. One of the times that Ahsoka died, life energy from the Force goddess was used to revive her. And because of how super special Ahsoka is (hmmmm... I see), the magic owl follows her around and even guided Ezra to save Ahsoka from Vader in that time portal place.

No, I did not make any of this up. Enjoy the show, bud!

jye before agp explained Rebels:

jye after agp explained Rebels:

 

[Wor-Gar]

The more you concentrate, the worse it'll be. Just turn your brain off if you want to get through it. I'll summarize the whole series for you below and try to give you some idea of what I mean.

There's a small Rebellion crew with a former Jedi padawan as part of it. This Jedi encounters an orphaned kid who is super strong with the Force (no, not Qui-Gon meets Anakin; no, not Obi-Wan meets Luke; no - dammit, jye - not Rey meets Luke... this is totally different, okay? The kid's name is Ezra).

Kanan trains Ezra until the kid has more mastery of the Force than Luke ever did in the OT (yes, you read that correctly; wait, what do you mean "saga plot logic problems?" Nah).

The crew meets Ahsoka (yes, also very powerful with the Force, wields lightsabers, and very much active during the time Kenobi and Yoda are hiding and waiting for a new hope to... ohhhhhhhhhh... eh, let's move on).

Ezra has to watch her duel Vader where she presumably gets killed. But this kid is so special (hmmm) that he opens a secret Jedi cave years later and finds time portals there. He plucks Ahsoka out of that duel with Vader and they both run back to their original timelines (yes, that's right, jye: there *have* to be two different timelines as a result now because a casaul loop alternative would be horrendous).

They have to run because they're trying to get away from Palpatine (yes, he's aware of Ezra and Ahsoka being in the time portal place. Huh? What implications? ... ohhhhhhhhhh).

Ezra Force-Skypes with Yoda (yes, the same Yoda who is hiding on Dagobah just twiddling his pecker because there are no special Force-powered potential Jedi left to train until Luke is ready). He also encounters Obi-Wan on Tatooine (yep).

At the end of the series, the kid outsmarts the most intelligent being in the galaxy, Thrawn, and communicates with hyperspace-capable space whales to transport Thrawn and an entire star destroyer into the Unknown Regions (yes, I understand that the concept of hyperspace involves technology opening wormhole portals which distort spacetime; yes, these are indeed *very* special space whales).

The kid and Thrawn are now missing in uncharted space, but Ahsoka shows up in an epilogue and recruits one of Ezra's crewmates, Sabine, to go hunt for him and Thrawn. Ahsoka has an owl with her. The owl is connected to a Force goddess who was part of a three-god order controlling balance in the entire universe. One of the times that Ahsoka died, life energy from the Force goddess was used to revive her. And because of how super special Ahsoka is (hmmmm... I see), the magic owl follows her around and even guided Ezra to save Ahsoka from Vader in that time portal place.

No, I did not make any of this up. Enjoy the show, bud!

That's got to be some of the worst stuff I've ever read since... Splinter of the Mind's Eye force snakes.

It's as much a childish mess as your basic comic book lore. A juvenile jambalaya.

It's like when the Greek gods and heroes stories became so bloated and inconsistent that new generations moved away from the multi-God universe to a simpler (yet also false) belief system. Star Wars has become so bloated that future generations won't want to bother "getting into it".

 

[Ramatuelle]

The more you concentrate, the worse it'll be. Just turn your brain off if you want to get through it. I'll summarize the whole series for you below and try to give you some idea of what I mean.

(Snippity)
No, I did not make any of this up. Enjoy the show, bud!

And this is why I absolutely refuse to watch Rebels. Ezra Bridger is the biggest, most overhyped Mary Sue in all the history of Star Wars, he has no equal in undeserved magnitude. Compared to him, Ahsoka is Reverend Mother Helen Gaius Mohiam and Rey is Lady Jessica. Baby Anakin is a Confucian monk in his wisdom and battle prowess, leading his own Order at the age of nine and able to stop time with his thoughts. Compared to Ezra.

No, my opinion of Ezra is not high. Not at all. Its that suspension of disbelief thing again.

 

[Sassafras]

And this is why I absolutely refuse to watch Rebels. Ezra Bridger is the biggest, most overhyped Mary Sue in all the history of Star Wars, he has no equal in undeserved magnitude. Compared to him, Ahsoka is Reverend Mother Helen Gaius Mohiam and Rey is Lady Jessica. Baby Anakin is a Confucian monk in his wisdom and battle prowess, leading his own Order at the age of nine and able to stop time with his thoughts. Compared to Ezra.

No, my opinion of Ezra is not high. Not at all. Its that suspension of disbelief thing again.

Nah, IMO there's lots of good stuff in Rebels and don't see a Mary Sue at all. Ezra screws up, struggles, sort of drifts to the Dark Side at one point, thought they did pretty well with coloring the characters and giving them arcs. For me if anyone was drifting to Mary Sue it was Sabine at one point.

There's hokum and fan service and questionable stuff, but pretty good arcs and some surprisingly heavy themes too. I was satisfied with the ending but Disney can't leave well.enough alone. And Filoni of course plot armors the unkillable Ahsoka in Rebels

 

[LiamNeesons112]

Whatever Ahsoka’s planned future ending is, it will never top her getting taken down by her former master in an emotionally charged battle to the death inside of a crumbling Sith temple. They really fumbled that one.

 

[e30ernest]

Whatever Ahsoka’s planned future ending is, it will never top her getting taken down by her former master in an emotionally charged battle to the death inside of a crumbling Sith temple. They really fumbled that one.

Well she lives all the way to TROS so her ending may be a long way out.

 

[chrisstbh]

Nah, IMO there's lots of good stuff in Rebels and don't see a Mary Sue at all. Ezra screws up, struggles, sort of drifts to the Dark Side at one point, thought they did pretty well with coloring the characters and giving them arcs. For me if anyone was drifting to Mary Sue it was Sabine at one point.

There's hokum and fan service and questionable stuff, but pretty good arcs and some surprisingly heavy themes too. I was satisfied with the ending but Disney can't leave well.enough alone. And Filoni of course plot armors the unkillable Ahsoka in Rebels

People that haven’t watched the show seem to have some heavy criticisms of it .

Rebels is good and Ezra isn’t even the focus half of the time.

 

[a-dev]

Ezra Miller? George Ezra?

 

[Ramatuelle]

People that haven’t watched the show seem to have some heavy criticisms of it .

Rebels is good and Ezra isn’t even the focus half of the time.

Was really put off by Ezra cowering off to the side while Ahsoka did the fighting.

Man up.

Then he outsmarts Thrawn. OH COME ONNNNNNNNNNNNNN

 

[Kebron]

Was really put off by Ezra cowering off to the side while Ahsoka did the fighting.

Man up.

Then he outsmarts Thrawn. OH COME ONNNNNNNNNNNNNN

He was a kid. Like 15 or 16. And Vader is the scariest thing he's ever come across. The first time him and his master came across Vader, Vader smacked them around with no effort. His master was basically powerless and they barely escaped. Makes more sense he was scared then him jumping in to help fight, like Vader wasn't intimidating. Besides it was Ahsoka's fight, and if I remember correctly, she told Ezra to stay out of it.

The second point, yeah its almost as unbelievable as a farm boy on his first combat mission piloting a ship he's never been in before and taking out a giant moon size base, oh and being one of like a handful of survivors from the battle where experienced seasoned pilots were shot down, he some how lives. Let's not pretend that the OT doesn't have some things that you just accept because every hero at some point has plot armor.

 

[chrisstbh]

Was really put off by Ezra cowering off to the side while Ahsoka did the fighting.

Man up.

Then he outsmarts Thrawn. OH COME ONNNNNNNNNNNNNN

He was a literal child, then he grew up

 

[Kebron]

The more you concentrate, the worse it'll be. Just turn your brain off if you want to get through it. I'll summarize the whole series for you below and try to give you some idea of what I mean.

There's a small Rebellion crew with a former Jedi padawan as part of it. This Jedi encounters an orphaned kid who is super strong with the Force (no, not Qui-Gon meets Anakin; no, not Obi-Wan meets Luke; no - dammit, jye - not Rey meets Luke... this is totally different, okay? The kid's name is Ezra).

Kanan trains Ezra until the kid has more mastery of the Force than Luke ever did in the OT (yes, you read that correctly; wait, what do you mean "saga plot logic problems?" Nah).

The crew meets Ahsoka (yes, also very powerful with the Force, wields lightsabers, and very much active during the time Kenobi and Yoda are hiding and waiting for a new hope to... ohhhhhhhhhh... eh, let's move on).

Ezra has to watch her duel Vader where she presumably gets killed. But this kid is so special (hmmm) that he opens a secret Jedi cave years later and finds time portals there. He plucks Ahsoka out of that duel with Vader and they both run back to their original timelines (yes, that's right, jye: there *have* to be two different timelines as a result now because a casaul loop alternative would be horrendous).

They have to run because they're trying to get away from Palpatine (yes, he's aware of Ezra and Ahsoka being in the time portal place. Huh? What implications? ... ohhhhhhhhhh).

Ezra Force-Skypes with Yoda (yes, the same Yoda who is hiding on Dagobah just twiddling his pecker because there are no special Force-powered potential Jedi left to train until Luke is ready). He also encounters Obi-Wan on Tatooine (yep).

At the end of the series, the kid outsmarts the most intelligent being in the galaxy, Thrawn, and communicates with hyperspace-capable space whales to transport Thrawn and an entire star destroyer into the Unknown Regions (yes, I understand that the concept of hyperspace involves technology opening wormhole portals which distort spacetime; yes, these are indeed *very* special space whales).

The kid and Thrawn are now missing in uncharted space, but Ahsoka shows up in an epilogue and recruits one of Ezra's crewmates, Sabine, to go hunt for him and Thrawn. Ahsoka has an owl with her. The owl is connected to a Force goddess who was part of a three-god order controlling balance in the entire universe. One of the times that Ahsoka died, life energy from the Force goddess was used to revive her. And because of how super special Ahsoka is (hmmmm... I see), the magic owl follows her around and even guided Ezra to save Ahsoka from Vader in that time portal place.

No, I did not make any of this up. Enjoy the show, bud!

The amount of stuff you left out is staggering.

You focus on Ezra but Rebels is a ensemble show where all the characters have plots and storylines. Which also happen to have some of the best moments in all of Star Wars.

The episode Jedi Night is extremely well done (IMO one of the best Star Wars anything ever) and is a gut punch, but you have to have gone through the other episodes to see and understand the relationship between the characters to get its impact. It would be like watching the Mando season 2 finale when Din takes his helmet off for Grogu without seeing the other episodes to understand what a important moment that was.

 

[Misterbadguy]

Trailer looked fun. Guess it's time to finally watch TCW and Rebels.

 

[Ramatuelle]

Oh, bah humbug! How old was Luke Skywalker when he fought Vader? Luke back then seems like a literal child to me now. But what did Luke do?! He faced his opponent bravely and ended up paying a terrible price. He found out just how much Vader was not to be trifled with.

He did his own fighting. Respect. He didnt send in his sister.

I just dont like Bridger, in case y'dont know lol. Mileage will vary.