Star Wars: Ahsoka

[The Buffinator]

It looks they are abandoning the World between Worlds concept and literally just saying it’s another galaxy???
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I'm pretty sure the Purrgils and their navigating hyperspace to a distant galaxy and the World Between Worlds concept were two entirely different things in TCW/Rebels, so concluding that they've abandoned the WBW based on what's happened so far in Ahsoka would be misguided. That said, I don't see any reason for bringing the WBW stuff into this story so hopefully we've seen the last of it...

 

[choombaz]

Let start of with acknowledging the score. This is the best score I have heard in the SW universe since the OT.

This. I’m not surprised Filoni bought Kevin Kiner in, he’s one of the unsung heroes of modern SW.

 

[Dark_Knight_89]

That sounds like an absolutely miserable way to consume media.

I know you aren't, but...

 

[davejames]

Never watched Rebels and glad I didn't after the first two episodes of Ahsoka. If live action Sabine and Hera are meant to be continuations of their animated counterparts, their characters aren't exactly electric.

I loved Clone Wars though so I get the gist with Ahsoka. Tone wise it's another shift after the masterful Andor. I know I'm banging on about it but it's epic on all levels and Ahsoka looks to be in the same dull plodding vein as Mando and Boba Fett. I mean the show looks like a fetch quest so far, very boring. When Filoni feels like the story is meandering, he throws another lightsaber fight in. There's no depth to his writing, just filler to kill time until the next wipe.

Sabine and Hera were far more dynamic and had much more personality in Rebels. I like the actresses they got for this show, but it feels like Filoni tried a little too hard to make them grounded and realistic. And I really found myself struggling at times to see them as the same characters.

 

[Ramatuelle]

That sounds like an absolutely miserable way to consume media.

whatchoo takin' bout Willis, hate-watching is 95% of what we do here.

 

[Asta]

Instead of risking getting nuked, Ahsoka could simply have ordered a set of eight maps on Amazon...

Every time they showed it all I could think about was that someone had painted one of the water filled garden bowls I remember having as a kid.

Aside from that the first episode is pretty good.

 

[Khev]

That sounds like an absolutely miserable way to consume media.

Nah. I noticed everything ajp pointed out and agree with his assessment yet still found myself enjoying the show anyway since I like the overall aesthetic and think that the legion of girls they cast are a lot of fun to watch.

 

[davejames]

Instead of risking getting nuked, Ahsoka could simply have ordered a set of eight maps on Amazon...

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Every time they showed it all I could think about was that someone had painted one of the water filled garden bowls I remember having as a kid.

Aside from that the first episode is pretty good.

That didn't really seem like the most complicated puzzle to solve. Did no one think to twist a few parts around to see if something happened? I feel like it only would have taken a couple tries before the light show started up.

 

[xipotec]

Maybe the force is something that drains and has to be recouped? Perhaps the lightsaber is the path of least effort. More likely it's just that it looks cooler...which I'm also fine with.

Ok this drives me crazy....

Its literally been shown dozens of times that using the force is a draining experience....even for the most powerful Sith or Jedi there are limits.

Yoda moving the Xwing is clearly exhausted afterward. Even Vader and Palpatine have stopped using the force after a long or strenuous act...

Its kinda cannon at this point.

 

[xipotec]

Look at it this way, you don't need Clone Wars or Rebels to like or apreciate Star Wars.
But you do need it to fill in some of the crap they are throwing your way here.
But, yeah mostly re-caps will do:

Ahsoka a pretty decent character created by Lucas and expanded on by Felloni, as once Anakin's apprentice, fated to die with the rest of the Jedi.
Feloni then ridiculously contrived her survival, by introducing some stupid time-portal, so now she can, going-forward, repurpose the legacy mentor role, once meant for Luke.
(who in the Disney-canon, is a complete coward and useless failure), so lucky we have her instead, to do what he failed at.
Ezmo, is some annoying apprentice Jedi who also shouldn't exist through the OT, so Feloni introduced yet another preposterous hyperspace/time/warping space-whales to temporarily "remove" Ezmo from OT continuity (and by extension Thrawn). And will now bring them back just as facile. Seems to be the plot Ahsoka hinges on.
The titular Rebels among others also included the usual clique of repurposed trope characters, including; Sabine, a Mandalorian & Jedi in training, so pretty much she's the best of everything.
And Hera, pilot of the Falcon Ghost and now Rebel leader.

It amazing everything you said about Luke is wrong...

 

[xipotec]

Sabine and Hera were far more dynamic and had much more personality in Rebels. I like the actresses they got for this show, but it feels like Filoni tried a little too hard to make them grounded and realistic. And I really found myself struggling at times to see them as the same characters.

I felt this abit also, then my son hit me with, "Well they arw alot older and have seen way more stuff ....you are not as dynamic as when you were 20 are you?"

Ouch.....

 

[Pin-Din7]

Was anyone else thinking -

Spoiler

Oh, another hallway scene of a Jedi massacring defenseless rebel troops. Don't get me wrong, it looked good, but we've seen it with Vader, with Luke, which makes sense, it rhymes, like poetry. If they keep doing this on every show, it's going to lose its effect. Just my two cents.

Yes I was. I said, "listen just because Vader & Luke have done it doesn't mean everyone can just do it. That's not how this works. Don't overuse it."

I mean I was thinking alot of other stuff that were problematic during the 2 eps but won't get into it. Let's just say you're going to have to "stomach" quite a bit if ridiculousness.

 

[Stront]

Ladies talking
Ladies talking
Ladies talking
Something about a map
Ladies talking
Ladies talking
It’s over
Everyone looks pissed

 

[Khev]

I felt this abit also, then my son hit me with, "Well they arw alot older and have seen way more stuff ....you are not as dynamic as when you were 20 are you?"

Ouch.....

Yeah it initially jumped out at me that Ahsoka could have easily just flicked her wrist at the end and pulled one or both of the bad guys off the loading ramp from the departing ship like she did multiple times on TCW but then I just wrote it off as animation being more exaggerated than live-action.

 

[RavenAsh]

whatchoo takin' bout Willis, hate-watching is 95% of what we do here.

 

[ZE_501]

Curiosity got the better of me and I checked it out. So far:

I don't *hate* it, but it's not impressing me either. It's better than BoBF and Kenobi, but that's not saying much.

The thing about Filoni (one of the things about him anyway) ...

[...] typical Filoni. [...]

He relies so much on cliches, tropes, and direct references that he has yet to demonstrate (IMO, anyway) any ability to tweak them into something that at least *seems* more original. Instead, it's just straight lifting. And he follows one straight-lifted cliche/trope with yet another one in an endless pattern.

Excellent summation.

His tropes are so on the nose it's like he keeps saying "SEE WHAT I DID THERE" and some people love it, others like me may at best briefly appreciate the style but then ... and I'm not joking ... fall asleep a third of the way through the second episode.

I can't decide if he's a canny marketer leveling his product at frustrated virgin nerds or if he's the frustrated virgin nerd inserting his ultimate fantasy women into his work. Man, this guy loves anime girls and goths. Like ... more than a grown ass man should, maybe.


There were visual elements of the show I liked, but even those are lifted from McQuarrie paintings which Rebels intentionally mimicked and recycled, so ... whatever.

(I didn't mind a lot of Rebels thanks to the visual style, although it was too Filoni for me.)

The show isn't terrible. It just doesn't really resonate with me.

I eagerly await Season 2 of Andor.

 

[Ramatuelle]

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We're gonna hate watch if we want to. I'm a Sith and I do what I want.

With that said, still havent watched this.

 

[The Buffinator]

That didn't really seem like the most complicated puzzle to solve. Did no one think to twist a few parts around to see if something happened? I feel like it only would have taken a couple tries before the light show started up.

True it wasn't the most challenging puzzle, but I think you're forgetting that before Ahsoka solved it she first used her lightsabers to cut that hole in the stone ceiling of that underground chamber. I'm guessing previous visitors to those ruins probably couldn't sense that chamber was below them. And they were probably also less inclined to permanently damage what might have been a historic landmark lol...

 

[Khev]

Ahsoka: "I walked away from Sabine..."

*very next scene*

Sabine: "I can come with you."

Ahsoka: "No." (walks away from Sabine)

 

[The Buffinator]

Ahsoka: "I walked away from Sabine..."

*very next scene*

Sabine: "I can come with you."

Ahsoka: "No." (walks away from Sabine)

Filoni's writing has a certain symmetry lol...