Star Wars Saga (OT/PT/ST) Discussion Thread

[Sachiel]

The camera tilting down with him.

 

[jye4ever]

The camera tilting down with him.

Great catch holy crap lol

 

[Wor-Gar]

All I hear is: Oh my, R2... this is all your fault.

 

[jye4ever]

Ok so there is an interesting and very unique geek experiment going on right now one that involves nostalgia.

One is currently a very well handled narrative reunion that certainly succeeds in hitting all the feels especially when grouped together in a particular single space.

The other were the returning OT actors being separated on screen never to share a space together supposedly neglecting its narrative responsibilities and dashing the hopes and dreams of generations past.

But now that I experienced the former all I kept thinking was that this gold standard reunion was pulling me out of the narrative and making me think only about the fact that it was happening and lamenting the past, sad for the future and only seeing the actors saying their assigned classic lines and celebrating their space instead of focusing on the actual urgency of them being there in the first place.

I finally had been injected with nostalgia fentanyl!

Yes I said that their reunion hit all the feels but were they the “right” feels?

Was SW better served by keeping characters just far enough apart so as not to have an overdose of actors assimilating their characters and interfering with the narrative?

What say you?

Spoiler

Engage!

 

[Khev]

I was fine not seeing Kelly McGillis and Goose's ghost in Iceman's office when Maverick paid him a visit. The story is much more important than "group photo" moments.

And going back to Trek ST VI was still one of the best in the series even with Sulu off in his own ship.

 

[ajp4mgs]

Ok so there is an interesting and very unique geek experiment going on right now one that involves nostalgia.

One is currently a very well handled narrative reunion that certainly succeeds in hitting all the feels especially when grouped together in a particular single space.

The other were the returning OT actors being separated on screen never to share a space together supposedly neglecting its narrative responsibilities and dashing the hopes and dreams of generations past.

But now that I experienced the former all I kept thinking was that this gold standard reunion was pulling me out of the narrative and making me think only about the fact that it was happening and lamenting the past, sad for the future and only seeing the actors saying their assigned classic lines and celebrating their space instead of focusing on the actual urgency of them being there in the first place.

I finally had been injected with nostalgia fentanyl!

Yes I said that their reunion hit all the feels but were they the “right” feels?

Was SW better served by keeping characters just far enough apart so as not to have an overdose of actors over taking their characters and interfering with the narrative?

What say you?

Spoiler

Engage!

When you frame it that way (btw, never expected you to be watching Star Trek ), I can see both sides. But with SW, there had been such a long wait to see the big three back together on screen again that I'd be lying if I said that it doesn't still feel like a huge missed opportunity and disapointing.

But, given how each of the three were in such a dark place in the ST, having them on screen together in those circumstances might've just compounded the downer of that. With happier circumstances and context, I think the reunion would've hit a perfect note after all those years of waiting for it. Too late now.

 

[jye4ever]

When you frame it that way (btw, never expected you to be watching Star Trek ), I can see both sides. But with SW, there had been such a long wait to see the big three back together on screen again that I'd be lying if I said that it doesn't still feel like a huge missed opportunity and disapointing.

But, given how each of the three were in such a dark place in the ST, having them on screen together in those circumstances might've just compounded the downer of that. With happier circumstances and context, I think the reunion would've hit a perfect note after all those years of waiting for it. Too late now.

Hopefully our children won’t be robbed of a Fett and kitchen rabbit reunion in the far future.

 

[jye4ever]

When you frame it that way (btw, never expected you to be watching Star Trek ), I can see both sides. But with SW, there had been such a long wait to see the big three back together on screen again that I'd be lying if I said that it doesn't still feel like a huge missed opportunity and disapointing.

But, given how each of the three were in such a dark place in the ST, having them on screen together in those circumstances might've just compounded the downer of that. With happier circumstances and context, I think the reunion would've hit a perfect note after all those years of waiting for it. Too late now.

Technically it’s not Disney is just waiting for Ford to crash his plane one final time.

Hamill don’t care he already signed his Luke likeness away to the Disney A.I. farm.

 

[a-dev]

An intriguing take Jye. But

 

[Asta]

Let Your Geek Sideshow​

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[Kebron]

Ok so there is an interesting and very unique geek experiment going on right now one that involves nostalgia.

One is currently a very well handled narrative reunion that certainly succeeds in hitting all the feels especially when grouped together in a particular single space.

The other were the returning OT actors being separated on screen never to share a space together supposedly neglecting its narrative responsibilities and dashing the hopes and dreams of generations past.

But now that I experienced the former all I kept thinking was that this gold standard reunion was pulling me out of the narrative and making me think only about the fact that it was happening and lamenting the past, sad for the future and only seeing the actors saying their assigned classic lines and celebrating their space instead of focusing on the actual urgency of them being there in the first place.

I finally had been injected with nostalgia fentanyl!

Yes I said that their reunion hit all the feels but were they the “right” feels?

Was SW better served by keeping characters just far enough apart so as not to have an overdose of actors assimilating their characters and interfering with the narrative?

What say you?

Spoiler

Engage!

When the TNG crew were on the bridge and they we all ooing and ahing and reminiscing, I couldn't help but think WTH are they doing wasting time while the BORG are killing and assimilating people on Earth. But I also really enjoyed that moment, and I felt it was needed. Did it help the story, absolutely not, but did it help me enjoy the program, it absolutely did.

For SW it wasn't that they didn't get the band back together, it was the state of the band AND that we didn't get to see them reunite and return to their former glory.

 

[abake]

I felt that they over-did it in Picard. Every time one of them said how important it was that they were back together it just took me completely out of the story. It felt silly and unneeded. For me it was enough to see them together and in action.

 

[Asta]

 

[xipotec]

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Ah, we are once again making the big mistake of thinking Yoda was good and honest….

Both Yoda and Ben were self righteous , lying and manipulative….

“You must learn the ways of the Force if you're to come with me to Alderaan.”

Manipulative from the start…..

He killed himself in front of Luke to cement Lukes hatred of Vader….

Neither Yoda or Ben wanted Luke to know Vader was his father, they just wanted. Vader dead by the most likely person that could do it.

Manipluaative bastards all of them…from the start.

Ans the PT does not help their case.

 

[ironwez20]

I think it’s safe to say now that the jedi were not the good guys we thought w they were. They thought they were better than everyone else. Reason why people dude with Vader lol

 

[Dark_Knight_89]

Also, 9 of those 11 names have only been shown to be alive in pre-ROTJ media. They could all have been hunted down and killed by the time we get to ROTJ.

Only Ahsoka and Ezra are definitely alive. Even then, Ahsoka is no longer a Jedi and Ezra has disappeared (could be considered dead by the characters in universe).

 

[jye4ever]

Also, 9 of those 11 names have only been shown to be alive in pre-ROTJ media. They could all have been hunted down and killed by the time we get to ROTJ.

Only Ahsoka and Ezra are definitely alive. Even then, Ahsoka is no longer a Jedi and Ezra has disappeared (could be considered dead by the characters in universe).

I see Ahsoka as a full on Jedi regardless what the cartoons said her status was just her occupying the same space as Luke makes her a Jedi just by osmosis alone lol

 

[Otomofan]

She uses the Force and she has two lightsabers. She's a Jedi.

 

[Dave_W]

What is a Jedi?

 

[Otomofan]

Anyone that uses the Force and has a non-red lightsaber.