Star Wars Saga (OT/PT/ST) Discussion Thread

[Otomofan]

Did he die already?

Just looked him up...he's still alive. But he really seemed to disappear off the face of the planet a while ago. Wonder what happened...

 

[jye4ever]

Just looked him up...he's still alive. But he really seemed to disappear off the face of the planet a while ago. Wonder what happened...

Sexual harassment accusations.

I don’t know how but ok lol

 

[choombaz]

Only one bad episode in the first 2 seasons.

Remind me, which was the bad one??

Wow, amazing video, thanks for posting.

 

[JAWS]

Remind me, which was the bad one??

The 4th episode of season one where he meets Cara Dune. It’s just so cheap looking. Takes me out of the show cause it looks like the Ewok movie on ABC.

 

[ZE_501]

The 4th episode of season one where he meets Cara Dune. It’s just so cheap looking. Takes me out of the show cause it looks like the Ewok movie on ABC.

Was that the one where they had to take out the AT-ST the raiders were terrorizing the village with?

Those killable alien raider guys were basically from the Ewok movies right?

 

[choombaz]

The 4th episode of season one where he meets Cara Dune. It’s just so cheap looking. Takes me out of the show cause it looks like the Ewok movie on ABC.

Ah ok yes that one is pretty awful. Bryce Dallas Howard’s first directing ep. She got a lot better. I do love the red eyes of the AT-ST though.

 

[TheClient]

The 4th episode of season one where he meets Cara Dune. It’s just so cheap looking. Takes me out of the show cause it looks like the Ewok movie on ABC.

Also my least favorite. I was not nearly as smitten with Cara as others were, and the whole thing had a vibe that reminded me of lesser episodes of "Firefly". Some good moments, though.

 

[Otomofan]

I liked the single mom in that episode. She's hot. I think she was naked in Westworld.

 

[ZE_501]

Also my least favorite. I was not nearly as smitten with Cara as others were, and the whole thing had a vibe that reminded me of lesser episodes of "Firefly". Some good moments, though.

I liked the concept of the Cara Dune character, and Carano's athleticism but she's not a particularly good actor and Howard's directing was pretty weak -- in that episode anyway.

 

[MeatHookGekko]

Also my least favorite. I was not nearly as smitten with Cara as others were, and the whole thing had a vibe that reminded me of lesser episodes of "Firefly". Some good moments, though.

That episode, IMHO, had a lot of homage to Lone Wolf And Cub. I really liked the early Mando episodes. He was wandering around, getting into adventures, meeting people, while Grogu was in perpetual mischief, much like Cub did.

One issue for Cara Dune was Carano was clearly out of shape. If your bread and butter zone is to be a physical actor and really engage in the fight scenes, then you have to commit to that.

Show absolutely positively hit a wall when it tried to keep churning out storylines to support back door pilots and spin offs and kept trying to engage into a larger overall "universe" The show was great as it was in the beginning, small scale, sort of detached from the main canon. Same thing happened to Glee. It was a fun show, the first half season, with a lot of humor and heart, but small stakes with more realistic people. Then it became an "event" and had to drag in all this other bloat that killed off what made the show a fan favorite in the first place.

Viewers are just smart enough to understand when a brand is grinding down to trying to squeeze every nickel into pure paste. It's exhausting to watch interesting things get whored out into just more energy drinks and "content"

 

[Otomofan]

I loved those early Mando episodes, too. Just an adventure of the week, like Dukes of Hazzard and The Fall Guy and Knight Rider. Loved those as a kid.

 

[Johnny1378]

IDK if it’s because I just watched Mando season 1&2 or what but my son and I are watching the movies and OMG are these Prequel movies bad.

TPM still has good moments but Jar Jar’s annoying level has gone up several notches due to the poorly aged VFX

AOTC - This is easily the worst made film of the series. Hayden’s performance actually makes a little more sense if you interpret it the following way. He’s an incell. And my son pointed out how he talks like those cringe tik tok vids of incells professing threat love.

That’s all fine accept WTF does Padme see in him. My only guess is she is a gal who will **** anything and the kids she has might belong to Obi Wan’s, Mace Windu’s, or yoda’s

ROTS tomorrow night. Sigh.

It was that japor snippet, dawg. After Ani gave her that, she was putty in his hand.

 

[Asta]

 

[jaztermareal]

I liked the single mom in that episode. She's hot. I think she was naked in Westworld.

She was hot that is true.

Shame the episode was naff.

 

[jye4ever]

I loved those early Mando episodes, too. Just an adventure of the week, like Dukes of Hazzard and The Fall Guy and Knight Rider. Loved those as a kid.

Speaking of Dkrs of Hazard

I know it’s fashionable to trash on Star Wars nowadays, but remember one thing if you really want to know how crazy unique SW was in 1977 just watch Stsr Crash from 1978 to see just how far advanced Star Wars was when created.

 

[JAWS]

Finally got around to watching ROTS again. Warning: A lot of repeat thoughts here

It gave me some false hope as I enjoyed the first hour more than I ever had.. But then Palps starts using a saber, becomes stupid looking, and Anakins turn just does not work. Same complaints as always but it hurts the film.

It’s leaps and bounds better than AOTC

For me it’s about as good as TPM. There is no Jar Jar and the pace is better. I am the least familiar with this one so that helps.

Ewan is great as Obi wan in this and I appreciated Hayden more until his “Liar” performance at the end. Together they keep the movie from being a total loss.

This film would be greatly improved if

Every scene of the Emperor with a Saber was cut out.

Anakin’s turn was more natural and he did not go right to killing children. So dumb. The fact he gets rewarded at the end of Jedi by being one with the force… Just awful.

And if the final Duel between Anakin and Obi was Duel of the Fates great.

Those three things would make it my 3rd fav SW film in the original 6.

Off to RO then the OT

I may give the ST its final shot after that. Curious how I will feel about TROS this time. Probably will be the last time I watch TFA and TLJ.

 

[Khev]

Honestly since you did the whole PT I recommend Solo before skipping to RO. It's a nice segue set 10 years after ROTS which serves as a palette cleanser before jumping right into the OT era.

 

[MeatHookGekko]

With Han, Leia and Luke involved i’m ok with looking past all of the woke nonsense and seek out the stuff that worked for me.

It wasn't complicated. Fans wanted to see Luke, Leia and Han reunite and go on one last big adventure. The practical breakdown of the plot at the point is almost irrelevant. Does it matter if they are hunting down the suitcase from Pulp Fiction or not? Or the Maltese Falcon? Or the Spear of Destiny?

Do you care about spark plugs? I bet you don't. But did I just give you want you want? I sure did. Will you tolerate and even learn to embrace spark plugs if it's packaged in something you want? I'd say that's a good bet.

All a sequel trilogy needed was Luke, Leia and Han rolling out one more time. And plenty of "fan service" along with it. People want to see Lando, Chewy, R2, Ackbar, Wedge, etc, etc and everything would be almost right as rain. None of this is rocket science. Lucas lifted much of Star Wars, the first Holy Trilogy, from Joseph Campbell, Kurosawa and others. The Prequel Trilogy shows what happens when people who rely on stealing ideas from others run out of things to steal.

What made House Of The Dragon S1 so impactful? The queen lasted one episode. She was not critcal tothe core conflict. The problem was a Beta male as King, his psychopath brother and the entitled smug slightly dim witted daughter. The show just got to the point. They didn't banter and hand wring for half a season on the mother, they just stayed only as long as was needed. This is why the Prequel Trilogy failed in so many ways. What were the best scenes in Phantom Menace? Pod race and Duel Of The Fates fight. You could keep both. That's like 20 minutes. And excise the rest. Functionally Lucas wasted a film and a half of run time on stuff that didn't get to the point. Do we care about Sio Bibble? Captain Panaka? Ric Olie?

This is why I actually did like The Acolyte, despite it being very much despised here and elsewhere. It was, IMHO, an honest accounting of how Lucas treated the Jedi in the Prequel Trilogy. They were morons and Headland kept them as morons. Palpatine wasn't so dominant from being cunning and clever. It was more of Mace, Yoda ( tragically ) and the rest were pretty dense.

If I give you want you want, even spark plugs have some new luster to them, don't they? Again, none of this was hard. At some point, probably after Lucas dies, someone will finally say on a large platform that Lucas lost his fastball and made everything after the Holy Trilogy way more complicated than it ever needed to be.

 

[MeatHookGekko]

This "influencer" has over a million subscribers and growing. The production value suck. The camera work sucks. The audio is deficient most of the time. The editing is substandard. There's too much bloat. If you actually weighed most of her videos against gaming the "algorithms" in place ( besides optimizing the thumbnail) , there's a lot of flaws here.

But this person is giving people, lots of them, what they really want.

If you got at least one dedicated film in a Sequel Trilogy where Luke, Leia and Han are the focus and they are out there getting into mischief and terrorizing the universe again, then fans would overlook a lot if they are having fun. Give people what they want and they are more prone to forgive a lot.

The chick wearing the tightest tank top she can find while crawling around on a roof can figure this out, but George Lucas can't? I mean, let's get real about this one guys, how do you fail at making Star Wars movies? They are basically a near locked in license to print money.

It's not rocket science.

( Yes, @jye4ever , she's got like 4 thousand videos uploaded. Have at it, my old friend)

 

[jaztermareal]

Soooo... we need a sequel trilogy with a re-cast or deepfaked ROTJ era Leia in gold bikini lezzing up with Mon Mothma and a bunch of other scantily clad sexy chicks. No plot beyond that is needed. Got it.


Actually I can't really mock you, I would pay to see that on the big screen 8 times over and buy every blu ray, and I would love every second of it. I guess you are on to something.


Disney, I hope you are taking notes. It counts as LGBT representation too so two birds, one stone saber.