Star Wars: The Force Awakens (12/18/15)

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Have multiple viewings cleared up who the heck the First Order is and how they came to be if there is a (New) Republic and why the heck there is a resistance if there is a (New) Republic to deal with the threat? Over powered Rey aside, that's my biggest issue with the movie. The political factions springing up made little sense. Not enough was given to us. They tried to make it like ANH in that sense but a Galactic Empire that dissolved an earlier form of government known as the Republic being fought by an underground group known as the Rebel Alliance didn't need any more explaining. This one does after the happy ending of RotJ. Even if it was a few extra lines of dialogue.
 
I have no idea if accurate however. my take has been the Republic is the government and the Resistance is the military fraction. FO is what was left of the Empire after RotJ. Finn is twenty and he was taken as a child to be a storm trooper so it's been around for awhile.
 
Have multiple viewings cleared up who the heck the First Order is and how they came to be if there is a (New) Republic and why the heck there is a resistance if there is a (New) Republic to deal with the threat? Over powered Rey aside, that's my biggest issue with the movie. The political factions springing up made little sense. Not enough was given to us. They tried to make it like ANH in that sense but a Galactic Empire that dissolved an earlier form of government known as the Republic being fought by an underground group known as the Rebel Alliance didn't need any more explaining. This one does after the happy ending of RotJ. Even if it was a few extra lines of dialogue.

No multiple viewing will, only E8 will be able to explain that, and that's a big IF they will even bother.

The question is, does it really need to be explained further?

For me, YES, that 32 year gap is killing me! :lol

Who knows, maybe we will see that the FO is just a front for the Sith, hence Starkiller base being taken out like a chump. :lol

ANH Star Destroyer opening explained what needed to be explaind without any exposition needed although Obi-Wan's "before the Empire" was a very simple yet effective way of giving them a little more menace.
 
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No multiple viewing will, only E8 will be able to explain that, and that's a big IF they will even bother.

The question is, does it really need to be explained further?

For me, YES, that 32 year gap is killing me! :lol.

Agreed. It does need to be explained or the ending of ROTJ is totally pointless and whatever ending this new trilogy gets ought to be equally forfeit if someone just decides it to be so.
 
Depending how the story progresses, I don't see them explaining the resistance nor the first order in great detail. A explaination for the empire, rebels etc. didn't happen until 16 yrs after Jedi and with the heavy OT influence so far......I doubt future installments dabble in the past beyond advancing the character arcs. Their telling a new story building a new group of heroes and villains.
 
Depending how the story progresses, I don't see them explaining the resistance nor the first order in great detail. A explaination for the empire, rebels etc. didn't happen until 16 yrs after Jedi

True but we didn't require one because there had been no previous film whose ending was suggestive of something entirely different than what is now presented in the follow-up.
 
Depending how the story progresses, I don't see them explaining the resistance nor the first order in great detail. A explaination for the empire, rebels etc. didn't happen until 16 yrs after Jedi and with the heavy OT influence so far......I doubt future installments dabble in the past beyond advancing the character arcs. Their telling a new story building a new group of heroes and villains.

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True but we didn't require one because there had been no previous film whose ending was suggestive of something entirely different than what is now presented in the follow-up.

While I get the confusion with the Republic, Resistance and First Order everything else pretty much is laid out to be part of the future story. What needs explained from the past 32 yrs that wasn't touched on in the film? I feel some may want Episode 6.5 the continuing adventures of the OT cast....:lol
 
While I get the confusion with the Republic, Resistance and First Order everything else pretty much is laid out to be part of the future story. What needs explained from the past 32 yrs that wasn't touched on in the film? I feel some may want Episode 6.5 the continuing adventures of the OT cast....:lol

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She "likes the blue one better". :lol

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It does need to be explained or the ending of ROTJ is totally pointless and whatever ending this new trilogy gets ought to be equally forfeit if someone just decides it to be so.

So melodramatic. :lol Don't be drinking DiFabio's kool-aid as some form of penance for liking Terminator Genisys. Genisys was entertaining and TFA has explained things just fine.

What was the conflict in ROTJ?

1. Luke striving to become a full Jedi.
2. To redeem Anakin
3. Destroy the second Death Star/Emperor
4. Restore freedom to the galaxy.

The film ended with the heroes successful in all such endeavors.

Now, how does TFA begin?

1. With Luke a Jedi Master
2. Vader still dead/redeemed
3. Death Star/Emperor still destroyed/No planet destroying menaces for over 30 years
4. Freedom throughout the galaxy. We see no evidence of any planet being "occupied" in any way by the First Order in fact. Not Jakku, not Takonada, certainly not that Republic planet that gets taken out by Starkiller.

Nothing that they achieved in Jedi was "forfeit." A new menace simply rose from the ashes three decades later and needs to be dealt with. And the movie made that clear in the opening scroll.
 
I did AMC digital IMAX (liemax) for my first viewing because it was just a few minutes from my house and in a mall and I knew that'd be easiest to see with my kids. Second showing was 2D.

I'm saving 65 mm IMAX (finally I live in a city that doesn't do those damn domes :lol) for a later showing so I can be re-blown away by the movie. :D

I wish there was an option for 2D 65 mm IMAX. I want to see just how crystal clear the escape from Jakku could have looked.
 
Took my mother to see this and she liked it. Her comments during it were funny though, loud as they were.

"What is that suppose to be?"

"I don't like that robot ball"

"OMG...is that Carrie Fisher?"

"Han Solo makes ugly babies"

"What is that thing?"

"Who is Finn suppose to be?"

"Who is the girl suppose to be?"

"What is that thing?"

"I can't believe that's Carrie Fisher"

:dunno :lol





That's so... Mom.
 
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