Star Wars: The Force Awakens (12/18/15)

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I can't help but wonder if this will end up worse than the prequel films (and Return of the Jedi) :lol.

That's impossible. I think the film will be pretty good. If they can't make the original cast work, then they might as well give up and sell the rights back to Marvel...oh...wait. :lol

Hardcore fans will think this film is the greatest thing ever (like in 1999), then a few years from now, in retrospect, they will be more objective, they'll see the flaws, and think it's just ok.
 
That's impossible. I think the film will be pretty good. If they can't make the original cast work, then they might as well give up and sell the rights back to Marvel...oh...wait. :lol

Hardcore fans will think this film is the greatest thing ever (like back in 1999), then a few years from now, in retrospect, they will be more objective, they'll see the flaws, and think it's just ok.

 
That's impossible. I think the film will be pretty good. If they can't make the original cast work, then they might as well give up and sell the rights back to Marvel...oh...wait. :lol

Hardcore fans will think this film is the greatest thing ever (like in 1999), then a few years from now, in retrospect, they will be more objective, they'll see the flaws, and think it's just ok.

Nah, just like no one can admit anything wrong with the OT due to nostalgic purposes, this movie will be the same way within a few decades.
 
Nah, just like no one can admit anything wrong with the OT due to nostalgic purposes, this movie will be the same way within a few decades.

It's possible that children who watch the film this year will be blinded by nostalgia decades from now, but I'm was talking about the adults who watch the film this year. Adults might have trouble accepting the flaws of the OT due to nostalgia, but I doubt they'll feel the same way about the modern films because they are viewing them as adults, unlike when they saw the OT for the first time. I think most of the adults who saw the PT in 1999 don't have a problem being objective and seeing the flaws, it's those kids who grew up with the PT that don't understand the people who dislike those films, because they saw them when they were children, and that which was once new and "good" to them, is now "old" and nostalgic, but to guys like me, the PT are just bad films.

I also think people are a bit more cynical and critical nowadays, and at times audiences can be more demanding, although the success of certain films this year perhaps contradicts that thought, but I do think people are more aware of flaws and plot holes than ever before, perhaps because of the internet and all the reviews online, so it's more difficult to ignore the flaws when you have 300 reviews online, hundreds of video reviews on YouTube, and cynics like me on this forum to remind you of the flaws, so you know what, I don't think people will see films like they used to. They will acknowledge the flaws and nostalgia will no longer blind people, thanks to the internet, but that's just my opinion though.
 
It's possible that children who watch the film this year will be blinded by nostalgia decades from now, but I'm was talking about the adults who watch the film this year. Adults might have trouble accepting the flaws of the OT due to nostalgia, but I doubt they'll feel the same way about the modern films because they are viewing them as adults, unlike when they saw the OT for the first time. I think most of the adults who saw the PT in 1999 don't have a problem being objective and seeing the flaws, it's those kids who grew up with the PT that don't understand the people who dislike those films, because they saw them when they were children, and that which was once new and "good" to them, is now "old" and nostalgic, but to guys like me, the PT are just bad films.

I also think people are a bit more cynical and critical nowadays, and at times audiences can be more demanding, although the success of certain films this year perhaps contradicts that thought, but I do think people are more aware of flaws and plot holes than ever before, perhaps because of the internet and all the reviews online, so its more difficult to ignore the flaws when you have 300 reviews online, hundreds of video reviews on YouTube, and cynics like me on this forum to remind you of the flaws, so you know what, I don't think people will see films like they used to. They will acknowledge the flaws and nostalgia will no longer blind people, thanks to the Internet. That's just my opinion though.

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No man, I agree. I really agree with ya on everything. I probably fit into this line by you "those kids who grew up with the PT that don't understand the people who dislike those films." Im only 20, I grew up with the PT. Watched the movies 1-6 in that order, but I love all the star wars movie. I still view TPM and AOTC as the worst of the six films, I still like them though. All six are some of my favorites movies. I just am worried that I will view the ST as some of the older members view the PT here, I would really hate that if I did. Hopefully I am blinded by nostalgia :lol
 
Agreed. Not a great effort.

It's a shame. I want to like it. I have several of Drew Struzan's other Star Wars posters, and they're fantastic. This one just seems a little off, though. I agree that Solo just seems out of place. Additionally, he looks like an old curmudgeon, trying to shoo whippersnappers off his lawn with his blaster. To be fair, that illustration may be taken right from a scene in the movie, but as part of the poster, it just seems out of place. The illustrations of the other main characters look good though, and I like the TIE fighters and X-wings in the background. I'm hoping that maybe he'll make another one, more in the style of his PT and OT Special Edition posters.
 
This won't be your Daddy's Star Wars film! :lol

This will have the elements that will tie it in and may capture the nostalgia feeling, but those whom are expecting OT movies are in for a real difficult time.

Look at the direction of Rogue One!
 
My hype for this is building by the day. When 'a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away...' comes up...oh man it'll be sweet. I just hope that feeling doesn't sink into my stomach within the first 5 minutes. As soon as I read the first lines of TPM's crawl, followed by the Neimoidians, I felt such a wave of disappoinment.
 
Unaltered SW/ESB/ROTJ(half) have only improved with age.

But I'm open to seeing the Battlestar plans being stolen by Apollo Creed and Starbucks coffee.

yeah, it (Rogue One) certainly doesn't look like Star Wars, looks like TV. I wonder if that's the deal with these "A Star Wars Story" movies?
Much smaller budgets? Would make sense, and would also explain their choice of directors? Edwards, Trank (RIP)....
 
People always see things from their childhood with rose-tinted goggles, but Star Wars (the original) was a special case. There was nothing even close to that back in the '70s and early '80s. Now, we get comic book-y movies out the wazoo, with insane special effects, "epic" storylines, many having a space theme or sub-theme. A kid who was born in, say, 2008 may latch onto this movie, or some of the Marvel Studios stuff, or Transformers, or the Pixar stuff, or something else, but no matter how good it will be (and I'm highly doubtful it will be as good as the OT Star Wars objectively) it's not going to have the same impact on kids, broadly defined, that the original films did. That was more than the impact of the film alone, it was the film's impact in the context of the culture and output of films at the time.
 
People always see things from their childhood with rose-tinted goggles, but Star Wars (the original) was a special case. There was nothing even close to that back in the '70s and early '80s. Now, we get comic book-y movies out the wazoo, with insane special effects, "epic" storylines, many having a space theme or sub-theme. A kid who was born in, say, 2008 may latch onto this movie, or some of the Marvel Studios stuff, or Transformers, or the Pixar stuff, or something else, but no matter how good it will be (and I'm highly doubtful it will be as good as the OT Star Wars objectively) it's not going to have the same impact on kids, broadly defined, that the original films did. That was more than the impact of the film alone, it was the film's impact in the context of the culture and output of films at the time.
Well said. :duff
 
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