Star Wars: The Force Awakens (12/18/15)

[Darth Waller]

Nah, just like no one can admit anything wrong with the OT due to nostalgic purposes, this movie will be the same way within a few decades.

Jedi had its problems. Ewoks defeating the Empire with sticks and stones never worked for me. The Empire can build a freaking Death Star. Twice! They could've easily dealt with these teddy bears.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Jedi had its problems. Ewoks defeating the Empire with sticks and stones never worked for me. The Empire can build a freaking Death Star. Twice! They could've easily dealt with these teddy bears.

There are a lot of problems in that film, not just the silly teddy bears and the Death Star having the same design flaw From the start there's stuff that don't make a lot of sense.

 

[stshammgod]

There are a lot of problems in that film, not just the silly teddy bears and the Death Star having the same design flaw From the start there's stuff that don't make a lot of sense.

It didn't have the same design flaw. It wasn't finished so the rebels were able to fly into the middle of it. Hence the need for a shield.

 

[karamazov80]

Jedi had its problems. Ewoks defeating the Empire with sticks and stones never worked for me. The Empire can build a freaking Death Star. Twice! They could've easily dealt with these teddy bears.

Without really trying to defend the Ewoks, I can get behind the general principle. Think about the U.S. example. Post-WWII, it was the global leader in economic, political, and military affairs. It had enough nuclear bombs to destroy the earth many times over. But it was defeated in Southeast Asia by natives who had a fraction of its training or resources. If Lucas was trying to make a statement about the effectiveness of guerrilla war against disproportionately powerful adversaries, then I can get behind it.

 

[TURINS~BANE]

Just read Chewbacca gets killed in this one too. Why even bother bringing the original cast back hey?? Ridiculous.

 

[jye4ever]

I just want to know who will be dubbing over Carrie Fisher.

No way in hell is Disney crazy enough to use her own dialogue.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

It didn't have the same design flaw. It wasn't finished so the rebels were able to fly into the middle of it. Hence the need for a shield.

It's a straight path to its reactor that if blown up, destroys the whole station.They could have written anything, but they just rehashed the first film...and that's just lazy, imo.

Without really trying to defend the Ewoks, I can get behind the general principle. Think about the U.S. example. Post-WWII, it was the global leader in economic, political, and military affairs. It had enough nuclear bombs to destroy the earth many times over. But it was defeated in Southeast Asia by natives who had a fraction of its training or resources. If Lucas was trying to make a statement about the effectiveness of guerrilla war against disproportionately powerful adversaries, then I can get behind it.

The whole Vietnam idea is something Lucas came up with later to save face. Kasdan once said in an interview that Lucas just wanted to sell toys, even though he (Kasdan) and pretty much everyone was again't the Ewoks. It's the same reason Solo didn't died, when again Kasdan and Ford wanted him dead. Lucas "creative" reason, "There was no future in dead Han Solo toys." He had a point I guess. Even if you look at the whole Vietnam idea, which is not bad if it weren't for the chosen creatures, the difference is that in real life, the Vietnamese outnumbered the US, and more importantly they weren't fighting with sticks and stones. The storm troopers had futuristic armors, laser weapons , and all kind of technology and robot at their disposal, and their enemy were four foot tall, slow, unathletic plushtoys ...like an army of Koala bears. It's like gathering the best soldiers America has to offer today with all the modern weapons and technology, and sending them to the past to fight spear-wielding Barbarians– and see them lose. Then again, the Storm troopers in ROTJ are so elite that they don’t need radio transmitters. No, when they want to talk to their main base about anything, like an incoming surprise raid, they have to hop on super-sonic bikes. Ultimately, poor, lazy writing defeated the empire.

 

[MorgulTongue]

I just want to know who will be dubbing over Carrie Fisher.

No way in hell is Disney crazy enough to use her own dialogue.

Probably where her daughter comes into play.

Little Princess: ADR for Old Coked Out Highness.

 

[karamazov80]

Even if you look at the whole Vietnam idea, which is not bad if it weren't for the chosen creatures, the difference is that in real life, the Vietnamese outnumbered the US, and more importantly they weren't fighting with sticks and stones. The storm troopers had futuristic armors, laser weapons , and all kind of technology and robot at their disposal, and their enemy were four foot tall, slow, unathletic plushtoys ...like an army of Koala bears. It's like gathering the best soldiers America has to offer today with all the modern weapons and technology, and sending them to the past to fight spear-wielding Barbarians– and see them lose.

Well obviously it's an analogy that only works in a broad sense, though I suspect there were more Ewoks than Imperials in those forests. I didn't know that Lucas was using the analogy, but it would make sense to me if he did even if it also was used in conjunction with the more commercial concern of selling toys. It's the kind of thinking that often gets powerful states into trouble (again with the Soviets in Afghanistan, and the U.S. in Iraq/Afghanistan). They overestimate their ability to crush "lesser" enemies because they have fancier weapons and better trained soldiers, but when you get into the muck, fighting on foreign soil against those familiar with the environment, who have more to lose and fight for, and who aren't hamstrung by training oriented primarily around more conventional battles, those plans quickly become suspect.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Well obviously it's an analogy that only works in a broad sense, though I suspect there were more Ewoks than Imperials in those forests. I didn't know that Lucas was using the analogy, but it would make sense to me if he did even if it also was used in conjunction with the more commercial concern of selling toys. It's the kind of thinking that often gets powerful states into trouble (again with the Soviets in Afghanistan, and the U.S. in Iraq/Afghanistan). They overestimate their ability to crush "lesser" enemies because they have fancier weapons and better trained soldiers, but when you get into the muck, fighting on foreign soil against those familiar with the environment, who have more to lose and fight for, and who aren't hamstrung by training oriented primarily around more conventional battles, those plans quickly become suspect.

In theory the idea is not bad, it's the execution of it that sucks, imo.

 

[karamazov80]

 

[Prime Clone]

Even in my early teens I thought the Ewoks were a marketing gimmick. But the galaxy is big enough for cute "n" cuddly (or annoying like Jar Jar) as much as ugly and scary.

 

[ZE_501]

Just read Chewbacca gets killed in this one too. Why even bother bringing the original cast back hey?? Ridiculous.

I'm as cynical as the next guy, but if they're seriously killing off Han and Chewbacca, I don't know what to say. Some heroes need to ride off into the sunset, if only for the sake of some last vestiges of innocence in a rough world. I hope it isn't true.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

 

[a-dev]

Even in my early teens I thought the Ewoks were a marketing gimmick. But the galaxy is big enough for cute "n" cuddly (or annoying like Jar Jar) as much as ugly and scary.

Their being able to defeat an Imperial army is a bit of a stretch but otherwise I don't find the ewoks implausible as a species.

 

[YankeesFanboy]

Its lack of camouflage and guerrilla tactics make the Empire ill-equipped to fight and succeed on Endor.

Is the Empire Redcoats and are the Ewoks colonists?

Yub Nub. (Tugs on Leia's...hand and leads her into the brush)

 

[jye4ever]

They must've been dumb clones.

 

[karamazov80]

They must've been dumb clones.

*language warning*

 

[jye4ever]

That's rac.......!

**** it, that **** is funny.

 

[xipotec]

I just hope its an enjoyable movie...I really didnt enjoy the prequels...and I waited like 12 hours to see PM....

Walked out of each movie like......well , I think it was ok?????

I just want to leave the theater going .."that was a good movie!"