Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Dec 15th, 2017)

[TurdFurgusonsHat]

Don’t forget that massive worldwide box office is irrelevant but poor BO in one country is super relevant.

You really think TLJ made gobs of money because it's a masterpiece of cinema?

It was going to make that much no matter what. Let's see how 9 does without Luke Skywalker and Han Solo to kick around. Better yet let's see how Rian Johnson's next SW movie does.

 

[Centurion]

Thank goodness for this movie... I'm loving this thread!

 

[jye4ever]

Haters might have to accept that the controversy has actually made TLJ the most talked about movie of 2017 surpassing even WW and instantly made IX a must see now.

Sure us geeks might’ve loved RO but it wasn’t talked about as much as TLJ has been.

Rian just made SW edgy and controversial.

Even the haters want to see IX just to continue their hate train going lol.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Haters might have to accept that the controversy has actually made TLJ the most talked about movie of 2017 surpassing even WW and instantly made IX a must see now.

Sure us geeks might’ve loved RO but it wasn’t talked about as much as TLJ has been.

Rian just made SW edgy and controversial.

Even the haters want to see IX just to continue their hate train going lol.

Wrong.

 

[Popnfresh98]

Haters might have to accept that the controversy has actually made TLJ the most talked about movie of 2017 surpassing even WW and instantly made IX a must see now.

Sure us geeks might’ve loved RO but it wasn’t talked about as much as TLJ has been.

Rian just made SW edgy and controversial.

Even the haters want to see IX just to continue their hate train going lol.

Yes because that’s how it worked for most talked about movie BVS and it’s follow up JL. Solid logic there.

Oh and there already appears to be a super detailed response to your freshly written and erroneous statement courtesy of your friendly neighbourhood Spazz:

The only box office "symptoms" one might detect are regarding the trajectory of interest. Anyone who defends the quality of TLJ based on its overall box office is delusional. We won't know if TLJ is a failure until Solo and, more importantly, ep. 9 come out. Let's look at (what should be) a less controversial example: The Matrix trilogy.

The Matrix: $463,517,383 Worldwide
The Matrix Reloaded: $742,128,461 Worldwide
The Matrix Revolutions: $427,343,298 Worldwide

Many people feel that Reloaded and Revolutions were an artistic failure, that ruined the mythology. Does anyone think that Reloaded was a better film than the Matrix? I'm sure there are some. However, the consequences of artistic failure don't really hit the box office until the following box office. I can almost guarantee you that Ep. 9's box office will make The Matrix Reloaded look enviable, in proportionate box office failure. Either way, that's when we'll know how pervasive fan disappointment with TLJ actually is.

Box office is only a gauge of momentum, in a film's ability to outgross their predecessors.

The Force Awakens: $2,068,223,624 Worldwide
The Last Jedi: $1,235,274,584 Worldwide

We know that The Force Awakens had a lot of momentum behind it thanks to the popularity of the franchise, but failed to sustain the momentum of franchise popularity. Sales are down, not up. Can a sequel make more money than its predecessor? Here's a list of films that have:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_film_sequels_by_box-office_improvement

 

[Wor-Gar]

Even the haters want to see IX just to continue their hate train going lol.

That's what we need around here, more hate. Place stinks of lavender and kindness.

 

[Sachiel]

 

[Wor-Gar]

Is that Rian going down on Greedo?

 

[jye4ever]

In the haters efforts to bring down SW they have inadvertently given it more life than the generic TFA.

Good job fellas you’ve made it cool to love TLJ you have almost instantaneously made it a cult classic.

 

[Centurion]

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Should've replaced the Porg with Rian.

 

[Wor-Gar]

If there is a "cult classic" Star Wars its definitely The Last Jedi.

In fact, I see a drinking game in its future for college students: every time the movie sucks you have to pound a shot.

 

[YoNoSe]

In the haters efforts to bring down SW they have inadvertently given it more life than the generic TFA.

Good job fellas you’ve made it cool to love TLJ you have almost instantaneously made it a cult classic.

The more Youtube “evidence” they post, the more independent thinkers slip through their fingers.

 

[Khev]

The more Youtube “evidence” they post, the more independent thinkers slip through their fingers.

 

[Spazz]

Yes because that’s how it worked for most talked about movie BVS and it’s follow up JL. Solid logic there.

Oh and there already appears to be a super detailed response to your freshly written and erroneous statement courtesy of your friendly neighbourhood Spazz:

The funny thing is, when looking at the decline in sales between TFA and TLJ there's room for speculation: How much of the box office decline results from TFA's failure to sustain momentum, and how much of the decline results from backlash toward the film? The opening weekend for TLJ was massive. There was only a 3% drop off opening weekend between TFA and TLJ. The disparity between the two ballooned to over 30% as weeks went by. One could argue the disparity resulted from negative press on social media and fan backlash.

My guess is that the decline in sales resulted from a mix of the two issues: TFA failed to sustain overall momentum, while TLJ didn't help matters, thanks to fan backlash. Time will tell. Maybe I'm wrong, and Episode 9 will outperform TLJ!

 

[GasparZizou]

Good job fellas you’ve made it cool to love TLJ

 

[crows]

Yes yes yes I do owe crows a than....a than....a....th...a...nk ...Y...o...u.

Thank goodness for this movie... I'm loving this thread!

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I really love the subtle *** to the side

 

[rushmore223]

Don’t forget that massive worldwide box office is irrelevant but poor BO in one country is super relevant.

Sure, $1.2 billion Sounds good, but how's it trending in Malaysia?

 

[crows]

 

[Otomofan]

This thread provided me with an outlet for my smarmy smug "I told you so" posts since I've been saying this and all other SW movies are gonna be utter ass since the initial Disney announcement was made. Everyone loves being right.

Then this thread provided me with a ton of lulz as the insanity got out of control over the last few weeks. I was home at my parents' house for the holidays doing nothing, so it was all in good fun.

But now I'm back at my place with so many awesome toys and books and blurays to distract me. I'm bored with this crap now. Yawn. TLJ is boring. It's garbage. It's a terrible, terrible movie and it should feel bad about itself and everyone involved should feel bad and if you like it you should feel bad too.

OK. Enough about this slop. Back to the real world for me. Peace out porgies!

 

[Popnfresh98]

The funny thing is, when looking at the decline in sales between TFA and TLJ there's room for speculation: How much of the box office decline results from TFA's failure to sustain momentum, and how much of the decline results from backlash toward the film? The opening weekend for TLJ was massive. There was only a 3% drop off opening weekend between TFA and TLJ. The disparity between the two ballooned to over 30% as weeks went by. One could argue the disparity resulted from negative press on social media and fan backlash.

My guess is that the decline in sales resulted from a mix of the two issues: TFA failed to sustain overall momentum, while TLJ didn't help matters, thanks to fan backlash. Time will tell. Maybe I'm wrong, and Episode 9 will outperform TLJ!

Haha well I don’t think any of us really know how this will play out, but it’s fun to go all in. Will it be a BvS to JL thing as what you described sounds quite a bit like that situation? Only time will tell.

I really love the subtle *** to the side

Haha I didn’t even notice that. You’ve got a good eye for this stuff

This thread provided me with an outlet for my smarmy smug "I told you so" posts since I've been saying this and all other SW movies are gonna be utter ass since the initial Disney announcement was made. Everyone loves being right.

Then this thread provided me with a ton of lulz as the insanity got out of control over the last few weeks. I was home at my parents' house for the holidays doing nothing, so it was all in good fun.

But now I'm back at my place with so many awesome toys and books and blurays to distract me. I'm bored with this crap now. Yawn. TLJ is boring. It's garbage. It's a terrible, terrible movie and it should feel bad about itself and everyone involved should feel bad and if you like it you should feel bad too.

OK. Enough about this slop. Back to the real world for me. Peace out porgies!

That’s how you make an exit. Peace out brother, it was fun. Enjoy all your materialistic stuff!