Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Dec 15th, 2017)

[Mandible]

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GOLD!!!!!!

 

[Chakor]

Only 19 yrs .... I recall collecting toys in the 70’s and the remakes, reissues and so on afterwards.....

I meant that the "nothing but a glorified toy ad" thing began with the prequels. The OT was at least made with artistic merit (whereas the PT and Disney Wars are not ).

 

[Darkseed]

I meant that the "nothing but a glorified toy ad" thing began with the prequels. The OT was at least made with artistic merit (whereas the PT and Disney Wars are not ).

Perhaps. One could argue RoTJ and EU may have begun the creation of characters for the sake of a toy to a lesser degree. It picked up with the films re-issues to hit their stride with the PT. Toys always a big part of the series

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

TFA - Rey is OP and a Mary Sue using telekinesis and doing Jedi mind tricks with no training.

Fanboys, "The next film will explain it!! Muh Rey is the the child of Luke, Ben, or Snoke Hefner ..."


TLJ - Rey is a nobody...

Fanboys

Kid with broomstick = No training because he' s using Disney magic.

 

[Mandible]

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People are saying "This is for the new generation..." Blah, Blah, Blah.

TFA is the 3rd highest grossing film in history and they didn't need to totally destroy the lore/history to make that happen.

If it looks like ****, and it smells like ****... guess what? (Star Wars or not) It is ****.

 

[Cap'n Cook]

^
^ mind. Blown.

 

[Darkseed]

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Isn’t it for the new generation? My SW ended with OT. I continued the journey (good & bad) thru comics, EU etc. I followed the journey thru PT and ST however; I don’t think for a second those films were directed towards me....I’m watching from afar to see what happens next in the universe I enjoy.

Much like the EU, I watch cartoons, occasionally read comics and listen to books on tape to mostly keep up knowing again I’m not the intended audience in most of these situations. I do it to follow the journey and because I’m a fan.

 

[The Chaver]

^
^ mind. Blown.

Mind ****.


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[swo77]

That's one of my biggest criticisms with this awful movie, all the suicide. You had the rebels in the beginning killing themselves. The Asian chick's sister with the bombs. Laura Dern's character. Finn trying to kill himself in that canon thing. Luke Skywalker, etc. etc. That was one of my gripes with Rogue One, half the cast willingly let themselves die. What message does this send to children about heroes? I'm all for self sacrifice of some kind but this is sickening.

For me, this is by far the worst Star Wars movie of the 9. I hated all the on the nose meta stuff like Luke saying "this isn't going to go the way you think", Yoda manically burning down the Jedi alter, Kylo Ren basically saying Rey needs to let go and destroy everything that makes Star Wars, Star Wars. It's just depressing. It's like the people that made this hated Luke Skywalker and Star Wars in general. They seemed determined to subvert and ruin it. I had so many "WTF" moments like Luke drinking that ****ing green milk from the alien's *******. He slobbered that **** up, it was disgusting. Leia somehow surviving that explosion takes the cake though. Jesus Christ. I actually thought her "death" was done well. Kylo hesistates to kill his own mother, but the other TIEs finish the job. It was sudden, blunt and jarring, but I accepted it since Fisher is dead. To cut back to her floating body in space, unscathed, and have her literally fly to the hall way door and live was just insulting. I actually couldn't believe what I was seeing. I looked around at the people I was with expecting people to burst out in laughter. Say what you will about Yoda and Palpatine spinning around with a lightsaber, but nothing beats the corniness of Carrie Fisher flying through space. There are so many terrible moments in this movie that I just can't believe it's being rated so highly. I want what everyone else was on.

Luke Skywalker was my favorite Star Wars character and he was reduced to a gag, a lame joke. I can see why Mark Hamill was so upset and glum with the promotion of this ****ing thing. I mean, I knew Disney was going to make him a loser and kill him off, we all did, but actually seeing it kind of makes me sad. It's a running joke that "oh, George Lucas ***** and killed my childhood" or whatever, but it really feels like that with Luke. He's despicable. He squanders his life on an island with these weird aliens, doing god knows what all because he was caught with his pants down when he goes to kill his nephew. This is the first time in a long time that I went into a movie with ZERO spoilers only to be disappointing by virtually every outcome and reveal. I knew when they went to that stupid salt planet that Luke was going to come back and die a martyr, you could see it coming. What I didn't know was that he was going to be this hilariously bad force projection/hologram thing. I mean what the ****? How did he even die on that rock? When Kylo and Rey were doing that psychic bull shot, Kylo never died from being shot by that blaster? I might have bought it if Luke came back in his X-Wing and was actually there in person, but the projection **** across the galaxy was too much. The whole movie seemed like really bad fan fiction. SNIKT's hilarious Snoke force vampire/Rey incarnation of Anakin Skywalker theory was actually better and more believable than this ****.

This movie was an insult on every level. The stupid little alien creatures on the casino planet. Chewbacca about to eat the porg while the other ones all make sad faces while he's sitting there, the weird crystal fox things. ****, I just remembered those little Beetlejuice/ET creatures walking around on Luke's island in the monk and nun outfits. What the **** did I even watch. Most Star Wars movies have a couple of exotic things in them. Star Wars had the Jawas and Sandpeople. Empire had tauntauns and Ugnaughts. Jedi had the ewoks. Menace has the gungans. Etc etc. This movie? It had about a dozen of these ****ing things in them. I still can't believe all the awful creatures showcased in this mess of a movie. All the jokes felt weird too. I couldn't believe there was actually a "yo momma" joke in a Star Wars movie.

It's actually refreshing seeing so much negativity and backlash against this thing. The audience I was with clapped like a bunch of ****ing idiots when it ended with that random kid with the broom, so I definitely felt like a minority until I saw my brothers' and friends faces when we walked out of there. Needless to say there was plenty to discuss from all the bizzare **** in this movie.

I have no idea where they go from here and frankly, I don't care. They basically crammed Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi together (right down to ripped off shots like the Falcon going through the salt tunnels to Rey being handcuffed and taken to Palpatine, we, Snoke). The irony that they killed off Han and Luke only to have Leia live wit Fisher dead is just hilarious to me. This franchise is a joke. Even now I have random shots of a First Order iron and ironing board burning in my brain.

Again, just reading through and agreeing with every last point, to include feeling apologetic about what we all thought Lucas had done to his own creation with the prequels and how it was actually merciful compared to this.

I can't believe what my family and I just watched. Bizarre is an understatement.

 

[guyver1]

Rey - nobody.. doubt it more like

TLJ - Kylo overkill

Think Johnson wanted to tone down the “ Mary Sue “ from Rey

Also despite what people think, TLJ will still make bank

I don’t think there was any SW trilogy film including the PT that grossed under budget

Not sure about RO though

 

[xipotec]

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Childhood *****?
Committed a crime against my childhood....

Man you guys need a life.....


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[Johnny Utah]

I haven't seen this much disdain for an anticipated film on these boards since Iron Man 3.

And Justice League.

 

[YoNoSe]

Rey is most likely a nobodyIMO. Broom kid is an undiscovered Rey. Ben Solo will probably make a turn but that may be the end of the Skywalker saga along with the strict Jedi dogma.

 

[KerotanFrog]

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Childhood *****?
Committed a crime against my childhood....

Man you guys need a life.....

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[medicomsucks]

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Childhood *****?
Committed a crime against my childhood....

Man you guys need a life.....


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You're right, it's worse than that, it's like watching the anakin and padme scenes from AOTC, while passing a kidney stone, and being kneed in the groin by shaquille oneill.

 

[ShadowX81]

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Why does Star Wars even need to be for a new generation, let alone reinvented for it? Today's kids like the OT just fine.

 

[Dresky]

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Childhood *****?
Committed a crime against my childhood....

Man you guys need a life.....


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Seriously.

I just saw the damn movie and i liked it lol. Been reading spoilers alot and expected the worst time of my life... Guess i'm lucky.

Wife, daughter, son... everyone liked it.

Edit: Didn't like the weird humor with Hux, but i don't want to commit suicide over that. For me TLJ was better than TFA. Just my opinion though.

 

[cerealkeller]

I feel like there are still people here having a tough time accepting the truth that this is a terrible movie. They're fighting the pull to the Light but should just learn to let go.

Or not everybody thinks the same as you. Personal likes and dislikes. I like this film a lot and I am not one to say something is good despite being disappointed. It has several WTF moments that do pull me out of the movie. But I like where they are going with the story. Rian Johnson brought the characters I like in this new trilogy (Rey, Kylo and Poe) to places that I was happy with. Please know that just because you hate this movie doesn't mean everybody does.

 

[Niltusk]

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Childhood *****?
Committed a crime against my childhood....

Man you guys need a life.....


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Oh, the irony.

 

[guyver1]

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So would the Force Bond scenes worked in the OT . I wonder how the audiences would’ve responded back in the 80s