Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Dec 15th, 2017)

[crows]

I think KK got on board with Marvel!


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This is like porn for me. Make it a comedy like guardians of the galaxy or thor 3 and i will die a happy man

 

[aa909]

That’s your problem with the character?

he's being sarcastic

 

[Adolfo]

I think KK got on board with Marvel!


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Only if they start going down on each other

 

[TaliBane]

The box office says otherwise

TLJ has been consistently tracking 30% behind TFA, and about 20% ahead of RO (day/day comparisons are tough because TLJ opened an extra two days before Christmas than TFA did, messing up day-to-day TFA/TLJ gross comparisons.) That means TLJ finishes with a domestic total of around $650m, and a global take (if the domestic/int'l split is the same as TFA) of about $1.35B.

Because all SW movies are driven by massive repeat business in the latter 2/3's of their runs, the latter half of TLJ's box office may fall off faster than either TFA and RO, meaning it lands closer to $600m domestic and $1.25B worldwide.

These numbers are noticeably lower than was initially projected for TLJ, which should have been in the $750-800m domestic and $1.5B-1.7B range globally, but it's hard to call it a disappointment in the context of other blockbuster grosses (no Pirates or Transformers franchise movie ever reached $1.25B globally,) and AOTC made 35% less than TPM. Adjusted for inflation, AOTC only made $475m - $125m lower than the lowest TLJ projected gross.

These grosses for TLJ Disney will definitely not see as any wide "rejection" of the film, or that a majority segment of the fanbase disliked or "hated" it. There's been a lot of talk on the TLJ defender side that middle films in trilogies always earn the least (which is totally false in the case of the ST,) but if average audiences and the fanbase rejected TLJ, it would have earned in the $400m range domestically and been in the $800m range worldwide, and even the lowest TLJ projections are 50% above that level.

For better or for worse, the box office performance alone - even the lowest end of TLJ projections - almost certainly isn't enough for Iger/Disney to make changes at Lucasfilm, rethink the trajectory of the ST, or rethink their decision for Rian Johnson to helm his new SW trilogy. Especially with that RT 92% critics response to back it up.

 

[klwn]

I think KK got on board with Marvel!

The big difference being that the Marvel female characters are wayyyy better than anything we have been getting in the ST.

I'm totally fine with an all female MCU movie.

 

[klwn]

TLJ has been consistently tracking 30% behind TFA, and about 20% ahead of RO (day/day comparisons are tough because TLJ opened an extra two days before Christmas than TFA did, messing up day-to-day TFA/TLJ gross comparisons.) That means TLJ finishes with a domestic total of around $650m, and a global take (if the domestic/int'l split is the same as TFA) of about $1.35B.

Because all SW movies are driven by massive repeat business in the latter 2/3's of their runs, the latter half of TLJ's box office may fall off faster than either TFA and RO, meaning it lands closer to $600m domestic and $1.25B worldwide.

These numbers are noticeably lower than was initially projected for TLJ, which should have been in the $750-800m domestic and $1.5B-1.7B range globally, but it's hard to call it a disappointment in the context of other blockbuster grosses (no Pirates or Transformers franchise movie ever reached $1.25B globally,) and AOTC made 35% less than TPM. Adjusted for inflation, AOTC only made $475m - $125m lower than the lowest TLJ projected gross.

These grosses for TLJ Disney will definitely not see as any wide "rejection" of the film, or that a majority segment of the fanbase disliked or "hated" it. There's been a lot of talk on the TLJ defender side that middle films in trilogies always earn the least (which is totally false in the case of the ST,) but if average audiences and the fanbase rejected TLJ, it would have earned in the $400m range domestically and been in the $800m range worldwide, and even the lowest TLJ projections are 50% above that level.

For better or for worse, the box office performance alone - even the lowest end of TLJ projections - almost certainly isn't enough for Iger/Disney to make changes at Lucasfilm, rethink the trajectory of the ST, or rethink their decision for Rian Johnson to helm his new SW trilogy.

I agree, but if Kennedy keeps screwing up, things are going to start happening. TLJ making in the 1.3 to 1.4 billion range isn't really bad, but it is pretty bad on the Star Wars scale, after TFA made 2.1 billion. It's definitely under expectations so they are at least going to consider a course correction in order to ensure more money in the future.
As for Rian Johnson, I would say that if they keep the trilogy project going, he will be a bit more supervised. He has made it clear that he doesn't really understand 1) Star Wars 2) hardcore fans expectations.

 

[aa909]

I think KK got on board with Marvel!


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not sure why it would have to be an "all female" cast, but I would definitely see a Black Widow movie with ScarJo.

 

[Craig Walker]

They'll just end up criticizing each other women behind their backs.


What would this team-up be called?? Trying to think of some names.

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

TLJ has been consistently tracking 30% behind TFA, and about 20% ahead of RO (day/day comparisons are tough because TLJ opened an extra two days before Christmas than TFA did, messing up day-to-day TFA/TLJ gross comparisons.) That means TLJ finishes with a domestic total of around $650m, and a global take (if the domestic/int'l split is the same as TFA) of about $1.35B.

Because all SW movies are driven by massive repeat business in the latter 2/3's of their runs, the latter half of TLJ's box office may fall off faster than either TFA and RO, meaning it lands closer to $600m domestic and $1.25B worldwide.

These numbers are noticeably lower than was initially projected for TLJ, which should have been in the $750-800m domestic and $1.5B-1.7B range globally, but it's hard to call it a disappointment in the context of other blockbuster grosses (no Pirates or Transformers franchise movie ever reached $1.25B globally,) and AOTC made 35% less than TPM. Adjusted for inflation, AOTC only made $475m - $125m lower than the lowest TLJ projected gross.

These grosses for TLJ Disney will definitely not see as any wide "rejection" of the film, or that a majority segment of the fanbase disliked or "hated" it. There's been a lot of talk on the TLJ defender side that middle films in trilogies always earn the least (which is totally false in the case of the ST,) but if average audiences and the fanbase rejected TLJ, it would have earned in the $400m range domestically and been in the $800m range worldwide, and even the lowest TLJ projections are 50% above that level.

For better or for worse, the box office performance alone - even the lowest end of TLJ projections - almost certainly isn't enough for Iger/Disney to make changes at Lucasfilm, rethink the trajectory of the ST, or rethink their decision for Rian Johnson to helm his new SW trilogy. Especially with that RT 92% critics response to back it up.

TL;DR

 

[Craig Walker]

Uncanny X-trogen ?

 

[crows]

The big difference being that the Marvel female characters are wayyyy better than anything we have been getting in the ST.

I'm totally fine with an all female MCU movie.

Difference is that none of the marvel women are mary sues or SJW
AND it would be produced by Feige. Which would make them kick ass and beautiful

 

[klwn]

TLJ is now at 91% critic rating on RT btw. Still 52% audience score.

 

[abake]

I think KK got on board with Marvel!


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Actually, I'd be perfectly fine with an all-female MCU movie.

These misogynistic jokes are getting old. And tasteless.

 

[klwn]

Actually, I'd be perfectly fine with an all-female MCU movie.

These misogynistic jokes are getting old. And tasteless.

 

[ShadowX81]

For better or for worse, the box office performance alone - even the lowest end of TLJ projections - almost certainly isn't enough for Iger/Disney to make changes at Lucasfilm, rethink the trajectory of the ST, or rethink their decision for Rian Johnson to helm his new SW trilogy. Especially with that RT 92% critics response to back it up.

Yes and no. While I don't think that this film alone is enough for a major course correction, the drop off numbers are enough to be troubling; and is enough for the higher up executives at Disney to perk their ears up.

Yes, the prequel trilogy were worse films. However they were aided by three factors. One, 10 years ago box office numbers weren't expected to be in the billions so there was a bit more leeway given. Secondly, they were made entirely by Lucasfilm and only distributed by Fox, which meant that Lucas only had himself to answer to. Three, there were only three films so it was harder to establish a pattern and have time to course correct. If the PT had been comprised of more films over less years, I guarantee that there would have been a few changes had time gone on.

I really think the Solo film is going to be a huge deciding factor to how this series goes forward. And I would put good money on Rian not getting his own trilogy for one reason or another.

These misogynistic jokes are getting old. And tasteless.

Which jokes?

 

[Ropen]

Tell that to bandai, they were supposed to release kimberly with the auto morphin figures this wave but they did not, meaning women merch dont sell. They can do whatever they want to, but so far its been proven it does not work.


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[klwn]

I really think the Solo film is going to be a huge deciding factor to how this series goes forward. And I would put good money on Rian not getting his own trilogy for one reason or another.

Yes, and if the Solo film being a major letdown is what it takes for Kathleen Kennedy to be replaced, that's a small price to pay in the grand scheme of things.

 

[aa909]

Yes, and if the Solo film being a major letdown is what it takes for Kathleen Kennedy to be replaced, that's a small price to pay in the grand scheme of things.

I will not go see solo in theaters unless the fan reviews are excellent. I agree with your sentiment, I would be fine if solo is a box office flop IF it leads to KK being replaced with someone who is primarily interested in making GOOD Star Wars movies.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

I think KK got on board with Marvel!


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That lineup sucks though.

Make an X Men female film with Rogue stealing and keeping Capt Marvel's powers, and a few other female mutants.

 

[xipotec]

I truly fully believe this

Of course this is on the internet so it must be true!

Other interest in the internet!
For sale!

I am selling a bridge if your interested Crows.....
It will cost very little , all I need is a small down payment.


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