Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Dec 15th, 2017)

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I thought it was just the prequels, but I'm beginning to realize people will **** talk any SW movie that isn't the original trilogy. None of these movies are perfect. Even though I enjoyed seeing this movie it definitely wasn't perfect, had lots of plot holes and cringey scenes. I liked it, many others did, many didn't. But I'm also seeing lots of either nostalgia blinded hate or just people who think it's cool to say it sucks.

I'm a huge SW fan, but in the end they are just movies. Usually when I am disappointed with a movie, I shrug my shoulders, say whatever and don't buy the bluray. Must've really struck a nerve for people to be typing paragraphs and paragraphs about how much it sucks 2 weeks after release.
 
Rey inspired you to write all that.

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You are a true anakin-ist. :lol
 
Before I completely burnout, complaining about this dumb movie, there's one thing I haven't said yet about this travesty of a film, and Kathleen Kennedy's feminism. Kennedy was quoted as saying,

"I have a responsibility to the company that I work with. I don't feel that I have a responsibility to cater in some way [to those particular fans]," Kennedy told the New York Times in an interview focused around Jones. "I would never just seize on saying, 'Well, this is a franchise that's appealed primarily to men for many, many years, and therefore I owe men something.'"

[video]https://comicbook.com/starwars/2016/11/29/lucasfilm-president-kathleen-kennedy-says-she-doesnt-need-to-cat/[/video]

Meanwhile, the success of the last two films was largely the result of nostalgia for Han, Chewbacca and Luke. The promotional campaigns appealed primarily to this nostalgia. For the sequels, that era is over. From here on in, ticket sales will be based on the strength of the new characters. Kennedy has it backwards: She doesn't owe male fans of Star Wars anything, but she's been marketing to them relentlessly in an economy governed by supply and demand. Just wait. Two years from now, we'll see how successful she's been in moving the brand forward, with episode 9. :rotfl There's going to be a reckoning.
 
*reads the last 30 pages*

So this is the power of Disney Star Wars. Wow

As a ****ing white male myself, is it considered racist and/or sexist to not like The Last Jedi or the last couple of Disney Star Wars movies in general??

The reason I don't like the current protagonist isn't because she's a girl. I don't like her because she's written poorly and the chick that plays her can't act. People that defend the way she is written don't appear to be very intelligent. Of course she's a bland, one dimensional character with a grating posh accent. She is the epitome of a Mary Sue. Anyone that disagrees is in denial of a valid criticism. Forget all the comparisons between Luke and Rey, and even everything she does in TFA, just look at TLJ.

Look no further than the ending where she's is the gunner in the Millennium Falcon in the film's climax. Not only is she barking orders to Chewie, she shoots better than Luke, Han and Finn combined. Remember in Star Wars how Han and Luke in particular are struggling to shoot down 4 TIE Fighters? It takes them forever to take those things down and they're breaking in a sweat after it's all said in done. ****ing Luke was happy to take down ONE. Remember in the Force Awakens when Finn is fumbling at the controls? He's lucky to even fire the turret canons, let alone destroy a single TIE.

TLJ? She destroys dozens of them with ease while quipping "I like this" or whatever cutesy BS she says, I can't remember.

Like StarPuffs said, she's wish fulfillment: the character. Maybe she's something special to immature little girls, morphosis or weirdos like Guyver who is in it for the dolls (no offense Guyver, you know I love ya), but to the rest of us, she's boring. In two years or the TFA and TLJ story timeline, a mere week, she does and achieves more than any character in this franchise. She is an expert marksman with a blaster, she is an expert duelist and a better pilot than Poe. Her force abilities can be summed up as she had a vision, felt something, it awakened, but now she is a pro. She is stronger than Luke, Han, Obi-Wan and Anakin and owns Luke's lightsaber, the Millennium Falcon, R2-D2 and Chewbacca like they're god damn trophies or something. She sucks.

Luke was a whiny little weak ass *****, but atleast he grew throughout the trilogy as a character. The second installment usually has several defining moments for a character. In Empire, Luke ****s the bed in everything he does. He's brash, arrogant, he's an idiot. What happens to Luke in the second movie? He gets ****ed up in the first 2 mins, he can't recognize a Jedi Master right in front of his face, he fails his training, sees himself in the person he hates the most, fails to rescue his friends, gets bruised, battered and beaten, and oh yeah, he gets his ****ing hand lobbed off. To top it off, he finds out the father he never met, the man he idolized and was inspired to be like is really his arch nemesis and the wise elders he trusted lied to and manipulated him. This character is so defeated that he jumps off the gantry to certain death just to achieve some small victory.

Then we have our girl Rey Rey. She doesn't do a ****ing thing except inspire people. She bosses Luke around and tells him how it is, inspiring him to finally kill himself. Chewie is like her ****ing dog. Finn is infatuated with her. Yoda thinks she's the ****. Leia has taken a liken to her since day one despite being a cold hearted ***** to everyone she came into contact with since the series began. Poe fan girls over her and wants to bang her. Kylo Ren? She's going to ****ing "redeem" and inspire him onto the light side 100%. She's the hero, the Disney princess, through and through. In a movie about failure, all she does is win. She didn't even lose a limb, an eye ball, bladder control. Nadda. Oh boo hoo, you're lineage is **** and your parents were druggies who abandoned you. Welcome to the club kid, take a number

She's boring, she's mayonnaise, I don't like her. When this is all said and done, she'll be forgotten, just like this movie.

:goodpost: ...... :exactly: Like I said earlier, some people deny rationalization and refuse to grow and change. They will still argue Rey is not a MarySue not matter what is presented before them. :dunno
 
I cried myself to sleep last night with these burning questions in my soul Ruin Johnson!

1. Who are the Knight of Ren
2. Who Is Snoke
3. Is Finn Force Sensitive
4. Where did Maz get the saber
5. Why did the Saber speak to Rey
6.Who is Rey
7. Who made the First Order
8.Is Vader speaking to Kylo

She's the main character. That's all you need to know.

William Shatner's meant to have posted this on 4chan. Thought it was a fake but then he confirmed it was him on his twitter. :lol

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He regularly trolls the /tv/ section apparently. :rotfl

:rotfl

"A crying coward"
 
she did not say the words "the future belongs to brown people"....You are completely quoting her 100% wrong. You are taking her words and twisting them to something you think is racist.

In re-reading it, she actually says "the future belongs to brown-nosers"....which is not only true but a very powerful and empowering point on social justice media.
 
Okay. We've ventured into territory that is beyond talking about the movie.

Thread closed for cleaning.

When I reopen the thread, please keep the political nonsense out of here or you'll earn an infraction.
 
You guys got Mod slapped! Whoop whoop

Amazing to think I was worried the porgs were going to ruin this movie.

Code:
 https://youtu.be/R0QPCS4a84k
 
*reads the last 30 pages*

So this is the power of Disney Star Wars. Wow

As a ****ing white male myself, is it considered racist and/or sexist to not like The Last Jedi or the last couple of Disney Star Wars movies in general??

The reason I don't like the current protagonist isn't because she's a girl. I don't like her because she's written poorly and the chick that plays her can't act. People that defend the way she is written don't appear to be very intelligent. Of course she's a bland, one dimensional character with a grating posh accent. She is the epitome of a Mary Sue. Anyone that disagrees is in denial of a valid criticism. Forget all the comparisons between Luke and Rey, and even everything she does in TFA, just look at TLJ.

Look no further than the ending where she's is the gunner in the Millennium Falcon in the film's climax. Not only is she barking orders to Chewie, she shoots better than Luke, Han and Finn combined. Remember in Star Wars how Han and Luke in particular are struggling to shoot down 4 TIE Fighters? It takes them forever to take those things down and they're breaking in a sweat after it's all said in done. ****ing Luke was happy to take down ONE. Remember in the Force Awakens when Finn is fumbling at the controls? He's lucky to even fire the turret canons, let alone destroy a single TIE.

TLJ? She destroys dozens of them with ease while quipping "I like this" or whatever cutesy BS she says, I can't remember.

Like StarPuffs said, she's wish fulfillment: the character. Maybe she's something special to immature little girls, morphosis or weirdos like Guyver who is in it for the dolls (no offense Guyver, you know I love ya), but to the rest of us, she's boring. In two years or the TFA and TLJ story timeline, a mere week, she does and achieves more than any character in this franchise. She is an expert marksman with a blaster, she is an expert duelist and a better pilot than Poe. Her force abilities can be summed up as she had a vision, felt something, it awakened, but now she is a pro. She is stronger than Luke, Han, Obi-Wan and Anakin and owns Luke's lightsaber, the Millennium Falcon, R2-D2 and Chewbacca like they're god damn trophies or something. She sucks.

Luke was a whiny little weak ass *****, but atleast he grew throughout the trilogy as a character. The second installment usually has several defining moments for a character. In Empire, Luke ****s the bed in everything he does. He's brash, arrogant, he's an idiot. What happens to Luke in the second movie? He gets ****ed up in the first 2 mins, he can't recognize a Jedi Master right in front of his face, he fails his training, sees himself in the person he hates the most, fails to rescue his friends, gets bruised, battered and beaten, and oh yeah, he gets his ****ing hand lobbed off. To top it off, he finds out the father he never met, the man he idolized and was inspired to be like is really his arch nemesis and the wise elders he trusted lied to and manipulated him. This character is so defeated that he jumps off the gantry to certain death just to achieve some small victory.

Then we have our girl Rey Rey. She doesn't do a ****ing thing except inspire people. She bosses Luke around and tells him how it is, inspiring him to finally kill himself. Chewie is like her ****ing dog. Finn is infatuated with her. Yoda thinks she's the ****. Leia has taken a liken to her since day one despite being a cold hearted ***** to everyone she came into contact with since the series began. Poe fan girls over her and wants to bang her. Kylo Ren? She's going to ****ing "redeem" and inspire him onto the light side 100%. She's the hero, the Disney princess, through and through. In a movie about failure, all she does is win. She didn't even lose a limb, an eye ball, bladder control. Nadda. Oh boo hoo, you're lineage is **** and your parents were druggies who abandoned you. Welcome to the club kid, take a number

She's boring, she's mayonnaise, I don't like her. When this is all said and done, she'll be forgotten, just like this movie.
You guys got Mod slapped! Whoop whoop

Amazing to think I was worried the porgs were going to ruin this movie.

Code:
 https://youtu.be/R0QPCS4a84k

Holy crap, how will TLJ fans ever recover?
 
*reads the last 30 pages*

So this is the power of Disney Star Wars. Wow

As a ****ing white male myself, is it considered racist and/or sexist to not like The Last Jedi or the last couple of Disney Star Wars movies in general??

The reason I don't like the current protagonist isn't because she's a girl. I don't like her because she's written poorly and the chick that plays her can't act. People that defend the way she is written don't appear to be very intelligent. Of course she's a bland, one dimensional character with a grating posh accent. She is the epitome of a Mary Sue. Anyone that disagrees is in denial of a valid criticism. Forget all the comparisons between Luke and Rey, and even everything she does in TFA, just look at TLJ.

Look no further than the ending where she's is the gunner in the Millennium Falcon in the film's climax. Not only is she barking orders to Chewie, she shoots better than Luke, Han and Finn combined. Remember in Star Wars how Han and Luke in particular are struggling to shoot down 4 TIE Fighters? It takes them forever to take those things down and they're breaking in a sweat after it's all said in done. ****ing Luke was happy to take down ONE. Remember in the Force Awakens when Finn is fumbling at the controls? He's lucky to even fire the turret canons, let alone destroy a single TIE.

TLJ? She destroys dozens of them with ease while quipping "I like this" or whatever cutesy BS she says, I can't remember.

Like StarPuffs said, she's wish fulfillment: the character. Maybe she's something special to immature little girls, morphosis or weirdos like Guyver who is in it for the dolls (no offense Guyver, you know I love ya), but to the rest of us, she's boring. In two years or the TFA and TLJ story timeline, a mere week, she does and achieves more than any character in this franchise. She is an expert marksman with a blaster, she is an expert duelist and a better pilot than Poe. Her force abilities can be summed up as she had a vision, felt something, it awakened, but now she is a pro. She is stronger than Luke, Han, Obi-Wan and Anakin and owns Luke's lightsaber, the Millennium Falcon, R2-D2 and Chewbacca like they're god damn trophies or something. She sucks.

Luke was a whiny little weak ass *****, but atleast he grew throughout the trilogy as a character. The second installment usually has several defining moments for a character. In Empire, Luke ****s the bed in everything he does. He's brash, arrogant, he's an idiot. What happens to Luke in the second movie? He gets ****ed up in the first 2 mins, he can't recognize a Jedi Master right in front of his face, he fails his training, sees himself in the person he hates the most, fails to rescue his friends, gets bruised, battered and beaten, and oh yeah, he gets his ****ing hand lobbed off. To top it off, he finds out the father he never met, the man he idolized and was inspired to be like is really his arch nemesis and the wise elders he trusted lied to and manipulated him. This character is so defeated that he jumps off the gantry to certain death just to achieve some small victory.

Then we have our girl Rey Rey. She doesn't do a ****ing thing except inspire people. She bosses Luke around and tells him how it is, inspiring him to finally kill himself. Chewie is like her ****ing dog. Finn is infatuated with her. Yoda thinks she's the ****. Leia has taken a liken to her since day one despite being a cold hearted ***** to everyone she came into contact with since the series began. Poe fan girls over her and wants to bang her. Kylo Ren? She's going to ****ing "redeem" and inspire him onto the light side 100%. She's the hero, the Disney princess, through and through. In a movie about failure, all she does is win. She didn't even lose a limb, an eye ball, bladder control. Nadda. Oh boo hoo, you're lineage is **** and your parents were druggies who abandoned you. Welcome to the club kid, take a number

She's boring, she's mayonnaise, I don't like her. When this is all said and done, she'll be forgotten, just like this movie.

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The cocoon pod in your Shark image that is lying next to your shed out back will be destroyed before you go to bed, I promise...Jye's will still remain alive and intact unless...
 
*reads the last 30 pages*

So this is the power of Disney Star Wars. Wow

As a ****ing white male myself, is it considered racist and/or sexist to not like The Last Jedi or the last couple of Disney Star Wars movies in general??

The reason I don't like the current protagonist isn't because she's a girl. I don't like her because she's written poorly and the chick that plays her can't act. People that defend the way she is written don't appear to be very intelligent. Of course she's a bland, one dimensional character with a grating posh accent. She is the epitome of a Mary Sue. Anyone that disagrees is in denial of a valid criticism. Forget all the comparisons between Luke and Rey, and even everything she does in TFA, just look at TLJ.

Look no further than the ending where she's is the gunner in the Millennium Falcon in the film's climax. Not only is she barking orders to Chewie, she shoots better than Luke, Han and Finn combined. Remember in Star Wars how Han and Luke in particular are struggling to shoot down 4 TIE Fighters? It takes them forever to take those things down and they're breaking in a sweat after it's all said in done. ****ing Luke was happy to take down ONE. Remember in the Force Awakens when Finn is fumbling at the controls? He's lucky to even fire the turret canons, let alone destroy a single TIE.

TLJ? She destroys dozens of them with ease while quipping "I like this" or whatever cutesy BS she says, I can't remember.

Like StarPuffs said, she's wish fulfillment: the character. Maybe she's something special to immature little girls, morphosis or weirdos like Guyver who is in it for the dolls (no offense Guyver, you know I love ya), but to the rest of us, she's boring. In two years or the TFA and TLJ story timeline, a mere week, she does and achieves more than any character in this franchise. She is an expert marksman with a blaster, she is an expert duelist and a better pilot than Poe. Her force abilities can be summed up as she had a vision, felt something, it awakened, but now she is a pro. She is stronger than Luke, Han, Obi-Wan and Anakin and owns Luke's lightsaber, the Millennium Falcon, R2-D2 and Chewbacca like they're god damn trophies or something. She sucks.

Luke was a whiny little weak ass *****, but atleast he grew throughout the trilogy as a character. The second installment usually has several defining moments for a character. In Empire, Luke ****s the bed in everything he does. He's brash, arrogant, he's an idiot. What happens to Luke in the second movie? He gets ****ed up in the first 2 mins, he can't recognize a Jedi Master right in front of his face, he fails his training, sees himself in the person he hates the most, fails to rescue his friends, gets bruised, battered and beaten, and oh yeah, he gets his ****ing hand lobbed off. To top it off, he finds out the father he never met, the man he idolized and was inspired to be like is really his arch nemesis and the wise elders he trusted lied to and manipulated him. This character is so defeated that he jumps off the gantry to certain death just to achieve some small victory.

Then we have our girl Rey Rey. She doesn't do a ****ing thing except inspire people. She bosses Luke around and tells him how it is, inspiring him to finally kill himself. Chewie is like her ****ing dog. Finn is infatuated with her. Yoda thinks she's the ****. Leia has taken a liken to her since day one despite being a cold hearted ***** to everyone she came into contact with since the series began. Poe fan girls over her and wants to bang her. Kylo Ren? She's going to ****ing "redeem" and inspire him onto the light side 100%. She's the hero, the Disney princess, through and through. In a movie about failure, all she does is win. She didn't even lose a limb, an eye ball, bladder control. Nadda. Oh boo hoo, you're lineage is **** and your parents were druggies who abandoned you. Welcome to the club kid, take a number

She's boring, she's mayonnaise, I don't like her. When this is all said and done, she'll be forgotten, just like this movie.

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