Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Dec 15th, 2017)

[Ninja4H]

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Just got back from it and I saw all the glowing reviews online and then came here. Thank god for you guys all hating it, because I feel like I am not crazy now.


But hey Adrian Edmondson was in it. It was fun to see him as generic baddie officer #346198. Young Ones and Bottom fans rejoice! But he didn't even tell a joke, in a movie filled with awkward jokes.


The Red Letter Media review better be worth it.

Sat through about 1/2 the film going "Who the hell is that?" then it clicked. Eddie bloody Hitler in a Star Wars film. Absolute gold.



I...didn't hate the film like I did Force Awakens, but I did walk out utterly disappointed. When they went new it was fantastic. The hyperspace battering ram looked magnificent on the big screen, and the Rey/Kylo team up was a great moment...until the "Let's do Empire Strikes Back!!" horsespit kicked back in. Why go to all this effort bringing new Star Wars to the screen, only to resort to pilfering your own material. Gah. I feel like a cynical old coot.



Also, horse racing is evil kids!!

 

[Tee-Kay]

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In all honesty, it took quite a few years after the OT to get the Vader/Palpatine back story. It's called the Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones and the Revenge of the Sith. We don't know a whole lot about Vader/Palpatine, just going from the OT. I think people tend to forget that.

I gotta admit you are bringing a very valid point here. My frustration as more to do with the handling of the scene rather than its conclusion. I am fully aware of this bad habit galactic leaders tend to develop getting old which is called overconfidence. Yet, the way that whole scene was handled didn't bring any satisfaction to me. Unlike ROTJ, it lacked the drama building and Snoke's death came while Rey's life hadn't really been threatened.

 

[DarkShadow]

This is what disgust me so much, as Otomofan as pointed out Disney took the most popular pop culture franchise of all time, and had the arrogance and disrespect to pursue it with no coherent plan in mind.

OT had no coherent plan either. Did you really think they knew Leia was Luke's sister when they had her kiss him? They made it up as they went along. All movie franchises do, unless it's based on a book series.

 

[Hydeous]

If Disney wanna milk the SW line, they should make like the MCU and make a one off movie bout Luke and Ben’s training in the Jedi camp and how it eventually turned him to the dark side.

 

[DarkShadow]

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I gotta admit you are bringing a very valid point here. My frustration as more to do with the handling of the scene rather than its conclusion. I am fully aware of this bad habit galactic leaders tend to develop getting old which is called overconfidence. Yet, the way that whole scene was handled didn't bring any satisfaction to me. Unlike ROTJ, it lacked the drama building and Snoke's death came while Rey's life hadn't really been threatened.

I think what you have to accept is that the scene is more about Kylo and Rey, and what it does setting them up for 9, than what it does for Snoke. On one hand, it might rob us of a great villain in Snoke, but I actually don't mind, because he was a bit too much of a parallel to the emperor. This way, it shakes things up and leaves us not knowing what will happen in 9, and it adds another layer to the Kylo/Rey relationship. And honestly, that scene that came after that, Rey and Kylo teaming up, might be one of my favorites out of all the Star Wars movies, so maybe that influenced my feelings on Snoke's death as well.

 

[BuGz]

Just back from seeing The Last Jedi.

It's now my all time favourite SW movie. It needs a second veiwing!!

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[Craig Walker]

The Purg.

 

[SithThundercracker]

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I still think that if you give hints in Ep7, you should give answers in Ep8.

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[chewblacca]

So was the force ever brought into balance?

 

[mrdbios]

So was the force ever brought into balance?

Balancing the Force now only limits the amount of potential sequels.

 

[jimminy]

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Did anyone else find it kind of funny how increasingly inhabited Luke's island became throughout the movie?

First it's a barren island with just Luke.
Then it's a barren island with just Luke and porgs.
Then it's a barren island with just Luke, porgs, and big-titty sea giraffes.
Then it's a barren island with just Luke, porgs, big-titty sea giraffes, and a population of Stations from Bill and Ted 2.

Luke lives on clown car island.

And why did the sea giraffes have breasts and not udders? Is this a David Cronenberg movie?

A friend said the sea giraffes were representative of us in the cinema, right down to the slightly annoyed and disapproving expression on their faces. 'Yes, we will sit here, and we will allow ourselves to be milked, but we don't have to like it.'

And were porgs even name-checked in the movie? Why do I know what they are called? Why did we spend a whole scene on Chewie learning to have sympathy for them? Where was the payoff for that? I mean he allows them on the ship, fine. And later he has to slap one off the dash when he's doing an obligatory 'fly the Falcon through a tunnel' scene. But so is that the payoff? He learns sympathy for porgs so he can spend a second slapping one off the dash later? That's an arc, is it? What was the point of that porg sympathy scene? Did it add something to Chewie's character that we needed to know? Just one of many 'so where is this going, exactly?' moments.

Why did we have three scenes about having sympathy for three cute animal species? Like, with freeing the cat-horses. Is that a theme? I guess resistance=freedom=something ... But if that's why those scenes are there, as an allegory for the resistance and their ethos, then that's pretty heavy-handed. And those cat horses were rounded up that same NIGHT, I guarantee you. Those casino planet guys have spaceships and multiple kinds of electric stun weapons. We saw them use the stun weapons. Freeing those cat horses so they can run onto that nearby hill for ten minutes was utterly pointless. They inspired the child animal husbanders, I guess, but still ... Are the child animal husbanders going to be a huge part of the next movie? God, I hope not. We already have way too many characters. Anyway. The movie's a mess.

 

[burtial]

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Bah. I did myself in. I haven't watched it yet, but was too tempted to come on here are read. Now I'm in no hurry to see this.

 

[darth toffeeman]

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Bah. I did myself in. I haven't watched it yet, but was too tempted to come on here are read. Now I'm in no hurry to see this.

Star Wars is always worth seeing in the cinema. Just don't expect it to be anything other than an effects filled film with not much character development.

 

[wongderek]

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I hate Luke was die

 

[Ropen]

This is what disgust me so much, as Otomofan as pointed out Disney took the most popular pop culture franchise of all time, and had the arrogance and disrespect to pursue it with no coherent plan in mind.

Exactly, they could have established at least this movie a battle between all of them or one or two hunting after Luke in this film and have snoke behind all this, where they could go after kylo since snoke might have sensed him going to the light side but nooo, but instead they just off them all like that where the setup in TFA was all for nothing. It’s BS.


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[Wor-Gar]

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Just got back from it and I saw all the glowing reviews online and then came here. Thank god for you guys all hating it, because I feel like I am not crazy now.

I'm so happy for reviews like this because after I saw the film Monday night and then all the positive reviews gushed forth Tuesday I felt like the world had gone crazy.

 

[Wor-Gar]

This is what disgust me so much, as Otomofan as pointed out Disney took the most popular pop culture franchise of all time, and had the arrogance and disrespect to pursue it with no coherent plan in mind.

I blame JJ. He has a history of doing this (on "Lost"). I think they had a plan, but the fans figured it all out immediately, so in his arrogance, JJ started trying other ideas, whatever hadn't been guessed... and we end up with this.

In the end (Ep. 9), just like Lost, it will end the exact way so many guessed and the way JJ continued to deny right until the end.

 

[jimminy]

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I'm so happy for reviews like this because after I saw the film Monday night and then all the positive reviews gushed forth Tuesday I felt like the world had gone crazy.

 

[Mother's Basement Batcave]

I blame JJ. He has a history of doing this (on "Lost"). I think they had a plan, but the fans figured it all out immediately, so in his arrogance, JJ started trying other ideas, whatever hadn't been guessed... and we end up with this.

In the end (Ep. 9), just like Lost, it will end the exact way so many guessed and the way JJ continued to deny right until the end.

What do you think the ending will be? Agree with you on Lost. Such a letdown of an ending that proves they had no answers for many questions they raised.

 

[guyver1]

Now that the characters have been seen in action, do any of you think the guards were worth all the merchandise hype