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Hulk Hogan was a hero to me when I was young and saying what he said does not change that im afraid, he was a big part of my young life growing up and probably has a lot do with me still going to the gym 3-4 times a week at 35 with a family. Storm collectables release the figure im sure a lot of people feel this way.
 
All I will say is I hope this figure gets released and its utterly stupid WWE fired and took him out of the hall of fame for something that happened eight years when it was clearly a heat of the moment type of thing. Now his Mattel figures won't get released and now this might not either, just stupid.
 
:rotfl Vince has said the N-word on screen!
Really? I'm not shocked.

Wow...seems like HH isn't the only "a little racist" dude in this thread :horror

I am not getting on the holier than thou bandwagon, but once the cat is out of the bag, how can you really defend it? I doubt this will affect the figure sales cause the only color that matters is green. But it's really disturbing that anyone, including guys here, would really want to defend his comments and dismiss them as just a passing comment.

He said it in the most degrading manner one could possibly use it...like the guy was less than him on a human level. Being in the group who his diatribe was directed to, I find his comments very offensive and for me at least, I wouldn't buy it if he gave it to me.

Right is right and wrong is wrong. His comments were just wrong. As a celebrity, he's a target. He got caught saying some dumb ****, so now he should be willing to either commit to the courage of his convictions and declare his deep personal racist views famed be damned or submit to public pressure...either way the only color that matters is green and his figure will sell.

I'd bet the Chinese guys who made this aren't too concerned, the comments weren't directed toward them. :huh
You're missing the point, at least from my point of view. I don't think anyone is defending his views. They're terrible. But I do defend the right of someone to have a private opinion--no matter how vile--and not have that opinion jeopardize areas of his life that frankly should be totally divorced from all that. I believe people should have a right to privacy in the private sphere. Exceptions being something that could lead to legitimate personal harm, such as someone saying they were going to hurt or kill someone, or neglect a child.

But I get that in the modern age of everyone secretly (and often illegally) capturing video and audio recordings without the subject's consent, I guess this isn't a widely shared opinion.
 
He signed this deal on his own right? Outside of WWE? WWE pulled all his merch, so if this is an independent deal, it should still be released.
 
Is the "N" word that bad?
Hmmm you guys get offended by my name? I hate how I'm not allowed to use my name at some sites.
 

In a statement to People, Hogan has apologized for his comments, saying: "Eight years ago I used offensive language during a conversation. It was unacceptable for me to have used that offensive language; there is no excuse for it; and I apologize for having done it."

"This is not who I am," the statement continues. "I believe very strongly that every person in the world is important and should not be treated differently based on race, gender, orientation, religious beliefs or otherwise. I am disappointed with myself that I used language that is offensive and inconsistent with my own beliefs."

Hogan also issued a cryptic response on Twitter in the immediate wake of initial reports.

In the storm I release control,God and his Universe will sail me where he wants me to be,one love. HH
— Hulk Hogan (@HulkHogan) July 24, 2015

The transcripts of Hogan's sex tape likely stem from his ongoing lawsuit with Gawker, which published an excerpt of the tape in 2012. Hogan is suing Gawker for $100 million for allegedly invading his privacy by publishing it.

The kind of response you can always expect from Hogan-"This is not who i am".
He has always been the kind of guy who wants to clear his name more than anything else,and an apology that always starts with "This is not who i am" makes it obvious that he is self-centered like i suspect he has been every single time he goes out speaking about his problems.
But i guess...It's the best apology you can expect from him.It happened 8 years agoo and im sure he regrets it.
 
Of course he regrets it, since he was caught! But I think that's just a standard PR response. His public persona is pretty damaged by something like this, and the best he can hope for is to try and convince people that he wasn't in his normal state of mind when he said it.
 
I am not a wrestling fan at all, but over here in the UK even I had heard of HH back in the day.
People should not feel bad for still wanting this figure or liking Hulk, he was part of your childhood and its the character he portrayed that you remember and like not the actual person.
 
You're missing the point, at least from my point of view. I don't think anyone is defending his views. They're terrible. But I do defend the right of someone to have a private opinion--no matter how vile--and not have that opinion jeopardize areas of his life that frankly should be totally divorced from all that. I believe people should have a right to privacy in the private sphere. Exceptions being something that could lead to legitimate personal harm, such as someone saying they were going to hurt or kill someone, or neglect a child.

But I get that in the modern age of everyone secretly (and often illegally) capturing video and audio recordings without the subject's consent, I guess this isn't a widely shared opinion.

This. :lecture :exactly:
 
Really? I'm not shocked.

He did, in a routine with Cena and Booker T.

I don't condone Hogan's statements, I feel it is unfortunate that he said them but also it is really unfortunate that something he said in a private manner that was recorded unknowingly was made public. One thing I think is hypocritical is that the WWE is washing their hands of him given their track record.

There is an article on Playboy's site that is circulation about the 7 most racist things WWE has done. Worth searching out. While I know it's a PR thing, a thing that is done to be able to stand on the higher ground but the company can't really do that in good faith. I think they definitely should have suspended him, kept him out of the public eye and make him atone but also understand the overall situation and kind of support one of the superstars that made them instead of turning their backs preemptively.

Some it is pretty bad including black face, the whole Cryme Tyme debacle and Triple H in "brown-face" pretending to be The Rock.
 
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Really? I'm not shocked.


You're missing the point, at least from my point of view. I don't think anyone is defending his views. They're terrible. But I do defend the right of someone to have a private opinion--no matter how vile--and not have that opinion jeopardize areas of his life that frankly should be totally divorced from all that. I believe people should have a right to privacy in the private sphere. Exceptions being something that could lead to legitimate personal harm, such as someone saying they were going to hurt or kill someone, or neglect a child.

But I get that in the modern age of everyone secretly (and often illegally) capturing video and audio recordings without the subject's consent, I guess this isn't a widely shared opinion.

What you say and do when you think no one's looking- that's who we really are. What if this was a cop? Or a senator? Or your babysitter? Or your school principal? Of course I defend someone's right to have an opinion but you see in my examples that private opinions can matter greatly because it opens up opportunity for abuse.

the other aspect of private opinions is that they can also reveal deception and hypocrisy. When someone spends a great deal of time telling how to live your life a certain way, then you learn this person quietly holds repugnant opinions, there's a definitely a feeling of being suckered.
 
He did, in a routine with Cena and Booker T.

I don't condone Hogan's statements, I feel it is unfortunate that he said them but also it is really unfortunate that something he said in a private manner that was recorded unknowingly was made public. One thing I think is hypocritical is that the WWE is washing their hands of him given their track record.

There is an article on Playboy's site that is circulation about the 7 most racist things WWE has done. Worth searching out. While I know it's a PR thing, a thing that is done to be able to stand on the higher ground but the company can't really do that in good faith. I think they definitely should have suspended him, kept him out of the public eye and make him atone but also understand the overall situation and kind of support one of the superstars that made them instead of turning their backs preemptively.

Some it is pretty bad including black face, the whole Cryme Tyme debacle and Triple H in "brown-face" pretending to be The Rock.
Terrible, but I'm not shocked. But then, I don't think McMahon cares about taste/the political correctness of anything unless it affects his bottom line. He is a guy who once tag teamed with his son against Shawn Michaels and God, after all. And Vince and son won! :lol I do remember the "Crock" Triple H routine.

What you say and do when you think no one's looking- that's who we really are. What if this was a cop? Or a senator? Or your babysitter? Or your school principal? Of course I defend someone's right to have an opinion but you see in my examples that private opinions can matter greatly because it opens up opportunity for abuse.
You make a fair point, and I think there are exceptions when the potential risk is too high to judge someone one face value alone (you wouldn't use a male babysitter in most cases, systems should be set up to prevent police abuse if they are racist, homophobic, on a power trip, etc.), or when those who in their public or professional lives run people down for one thing, while doing another (so, politicians being those frequently who do things like sleep around but claim marriage is a sacred thing, preachers who use drugs and whores, etc.), because there are cases where hypocrisy really matters.

But still, in the vast majority of cases, doesn't everyone deserve a private life where, so long as they aren't hurting others, they can do or think whatever the hell they want? Hopefully many of these people will learn to accept and embrace things they are ignorant or biased about, but if they are vile bigots inside but can constrain their behavior to the rest of the world, then what does it matter? Don't we all repress our darker sides from time to time so that we can function in a civilized world? Battling our ids so that we aren't shunned by everyone? At what point should the ThoughtPolice step in and publicly shame us for these instincts and opinions?

Coming back to Hogan's example, he has been a public figure for over 30 years. How many times then has he done something so terribly racist that he was hurting the wellbeing of African Americans? Or even a single African American? As a wrestler, he beat down everyone, so he was an equal opportunity offender, whether he was wrestling Kamala, Tatsumi Fujinami, or Roddy Piper. Unless he totally goes off his rocker, is there any reason to think that would change in the future? If not, does his private opinion really matter? If this news never came out, and we never heard anything similarly, I don't think most would have even considered the possibility that he felt that way.

Just my opinion here. I respect alternative opinions. People are understandably offended by what he said, but I don't think any of us should have heard this to begin with.
 
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Dammit, Hogan.
 
Terrible, but I'm not shocked. But then, I don't think McMahon cares about taste/the political correctness of anything unless it affects his bottom line. He is a guy who once tag teamed with his son against Shawn Michaels and God, after all. And Vince and son won! :lol I do remember the "Crock" Triple H routine.


You make a fair point, and I think there are exceptions when the potential risk is too high to judge someone one face value alone (you wouldn't use a male babysitter in most cases, systems should be set up to prevent police abuse if they are racist, homophobic, on a power trip, etc.), or when those who in their public or professional lives run people down for one thing, while doing another (so, politicians being those frequently who do things like sleep around but claim marriage is a sacred thing, preachers who use drugs and whores, etc.), because there are cases where hypocrisy really matters.

But still, in the vast majority of cases, doesn't everyone deserve a private life where, so long as they aren't hurting others, they can do or think whatever the hell they want? Hopefully many of these people will learn to accept and embrace things they are ignorant or biased about, but if they are vile bigots inside but can constrain their behavior to the rest of the world, then what does it matter? Don't we all repress our darker sides from time to time so that we can function in a civilized world? Battling our ids so that we aren't shunned by everyone? At what point should the ThoughtPolice step in and publicly shame us for these instincts and opinions?

Coming back to Hogan's example, he has been a public figure for over 30 years. How many times then has he done something so terribly racist that he was hurting the wellbeing of African Americans? Or even a single African American? As a wrestler, he beat down everyone, so he was an equal opportunity offender, whether he was wrestling Kamala, Tatsumi Fujinami, or Roddy Piper. Unless he totally goes off his rocker, is there any reason to think that would change in the future? If not, does his private opinion really matter? If this news never came out, and we never heard anything similarly, I don't think most would have even considered the possibility that he felt that way.

Just my opinion here. I respect alternative opinions. People are understandably offended by what he said, but I don't think any of us should have heard this to begin with.

When you're a celebrity you pretty much lose your right to privacy, I think they all know that comes with the territory. That's the price of being rich and famous unfortunately. I can't feel bad for a guy who got caught making racist remarks though, whether it's fair to him or not. All the horrible stuff he said outweighs his privacy in my opinion. I think most people should be relieved this got leaked because I'm sure he had a bunch of black fans that now know what he thinks about them.

To me there's nothing worse than a racist making money off the very people he hates, or feels superior too.
 
Guys:

Hulk Hogan owns 'Hulk', 'Hulkster', 'Hulkamania' etc .... not WWE
He was using Hulk Hogan as a name long before Vince MacMahon junior owned the company. His appearance in Rocky 3 was when he was in the AWA and he became the biggest wrestling star in the world BEFORE going to work for the WWF.

Here he is on the 'Hulkamania Australia tour' in 2009 with Ric Flair as an example of his ability to use the trademark independent of WWE:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hulkamania:_Let_The_Battle_Begin

This Storm collectibles figure had nothing to do with WWE anyway.
They may choose themselves not to release but it won't be based on anything the WWE does or doesn't do.
 
From a business stabd point I can see Storm Colectibles put the figure on hold for a year or two if they can afford it.

Just imagine Hogan attending any con in the next months. He would always be confronted with this topic. This however wouldnt be the kind of promotion any company wants for their product.
Next, with this topic being actively discussed, sales would definitly be hurt (no chance for a second figure btw).
Also Storm Collectibles wouldnt want to risk to be linked with Hogan right now.

Summed up it would be best to push this figure back.
 
From a business stabd point I can see Storm Colectibles put the figure on hold for a year or two if they can afford it.

Just imagine Hogan attending any con in the next months. He would always be confronted with this topic. This however wouldnt be the kind of promotion any company wants for their product.
Next, with this topic being actively discussed, sales would definitly be hurt (no chance for a second figure btw).
Also Storm Collectibles wouldnt want to risk to be linked with Hogan right now.

Summed up it would be best to push this figure back.

I disagree. I was at Target yesterday and watched the scalper frenzy unleash on Mattel Hogan figures. Now is the time to capatalize on a Hogan release.
 
You cannot compare a reseller who is calculating a high demand of a canceled figure with an official new product of a company. On the lne hand you are offerning a few figures on Ebay in order to make some fast cash (get a job scalpers) on the other hand you have a big production run with financial risk for you and your company.
Further the scalper doesnt need to care about his image because he has no contract with Hogan as he is just a reseller. Storm Collectibles however would be directly connected with him. From a business standpoint you dont want that as people may distance from you too. This may even effect other sales from you too.

This being said, I have to correct my summary. If I were Storm Collectibles I would cancel the figure immediatly and check with my lawyers if I can make Hogan responsible for it.
 
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Truly believe in Hulk Hogan as a great man and forever legend of the business! You are always with us!

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