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No, the need to eat meat is a myth.

Nope, just ignorantly ignored by you attempting to soapbox your lifestyle.

Human teeth aren't designed to rip through the skin of a living animal like a lion's are. The human digestive tract is long and winding, which causes flesh to linger for long periods, allowing it to rot in there.

A lion has stomach acid 20 times as strong as a human. That is what you need to completely digest flesh, instead of having undigested proteins escape and settle in joints, causing the autoimmune reaction of arthritis.

I don't recall using the term "carnivore." I said omnivore. Look it up and be learned. Additionally, we have these things called opposable thumbs which allow us to use tools. Why would we need to bite through the skin of something when we're designed to use tools that can cut through it? Some of the earliest tools used by man are sharp obsidian cutting tools. As for arthritis, look it up. That's a whole other debate and you're wrong. So more ignorance on your part.

As far as hormones, even without the artificial growth hormones, there are STILL the hormones that the animal has naturally. Animal growth hormones have no place in a truly human body. Growth hormones do survive the digestion process. It's part of how breastfeeding works. The mother's growth hormones transfer to the baby, to help it grow, through the breast milk.

We won't get into you comparing meat to mother's milk. :cuckoo: The rest of your point here is ignorantly assuming every bovine/poultry farm uses growth hormones. Your utilization here is similar to the animal activist videos showing isolated incidents on rural farms and implying the same practices are used on every farm. This is far from the truth and just hyperbolic propaganda. Oh, BTW, if hormones survive "the digestive process," given that process runs from the esophagus to the ******, they're not being digested and therefore pose zero threat. Anyway still, more ignorance on your part.

Organic farming prohibits the use of carcinogenic chemicals, unlike other methods.

The label requires the use of "organic" pesticides. I can assure you that if you ingest them, you'll die just like someone ingesting chemical-based pesticides. Don't hide behind the label, educate yourself.

Furthermore, the farms with the most crops per acre have been organic. In addition, organic is more nutritious, because organic foods have much higher mineral content, as shown in a Rutger's University study.

Guess how that's done? If you find "organic" food that has been infused with more minerals than your run of the mill veggies, it's because it's been bio-engineered to have it. That's no different than the hormone therapy you were calling toxic earlier. Also makes you a hypocrite. BTW, that study you're using as reference? It was conducted by Jewish vegans. Hmmmmmmmm, tainted results? :lol

Let's break this down so people can understand the benefits of a "vegetarian" diet into a meal. Healthy dinner comprised of 2 cups of broccoli, a chicken breast and 12oz of water for the omnivore, and for the vegetarian, to get the same nutritional value, we'll have to use a whole brick of tofu in place of the chicken. In the end, the ONLY difference, is that the vegetarian is consuming more calories and sodium to match the nutritional value of the omnivore. Calories and sodium. Think about that.
 
The unnecessary killing of innocent creatures to eat them is always morally inferior. It's evil.

Your holier-than-thou veganism is the reason that I have now resolved to double my meat intake. From breakfast tomorrow your inane vegan proselytizing will be responsible for the needless slaughter of innocent creatures.



But it's not too late to save them. All you have to do is cease and desist with the vegan dribble and the piggy will be allowed to live.
 
Nope, just ignorantly ignored by you attempting to soapbox your lifestyle.



I don't recall using the term "carnivore." I said omnivore. Look it up and be learned. Additionally, we have these things called opposable thumbs which allow us to use tools. Why would we need to bite through the skin of something when we're designed to use tools that can cut through it? Some of the earliest tools used by man are sharp obsidian cutting tools. As for arthritis, look it up. That's a whole other debate and you're wrong. So more ignorance on your part.



We won't get into you comparing meat to mother's milk. :cuckoo: The rest of your point here is ignorantly assuming every bovine/poultry farm uses growth hormones. Your utilization here is similar to the animal activist videos showing isolated incidents on rural farms and implying the same practices are used on every farm. This is far from the truth and just hyperbolic propaganda. Oh, BTW, if hormones survive "the digestive process," given that process runs from the esophagus to the ******, they're not being digested and therefore pose zero threat. Anyway still, more ignorance on your part.



The label requires the use of "organic" pesticides. I can assure you that if you ingest them, you'll die just like someone ingesting chemical-based pesticides. Don't hide behind the label, educate yourself.



Guess how that's done? If you find "organic" food that has been infused with more minerals than your run of the mill veggies, it's because it's been bio-engineered to have it. That's no different than the hormone therapy you were calling toxic earlier. Also makes you a hypocrite. BTW, that study you're using as reference? It was conducted by Jewish vegans. Hmmmmmmmm, tainted results? :lol

Let's break this down so people can understand the benefits of a "vegetarian" diet into a meal. Healthy dinner comprised of 2 cups of broccoli, a chicken breast and 12oz of water for the omnivore, and for the vegetarian, to get the same nutritional value, we'll have to use a whole brick of tofu in place of the chicken. In the end, the ONLY difference, is that the vegetarian is consuming more calories and sodium to match the nutritional value of the omnivore. Calories and sodium. Think about that.

I know what an omnivore is. Humans are frugivores.
The necessity to use tools to eat flesh indicates that it is unnatural to eat it.

I did not say that every bovine/poultry farm uses hormones, but most do. It's the standard, because it increases profits, and animal agriculture is all about profit.
When I said that growth hormones survive, I meant that they remained effective even after exposure to stomach acid, and thus affect the body as they are absorbed through the digestive tract.


Organic food has more minerals because pesticides and other chemicals weaken the plants, which makes them less able to draw in nutrients from the soil. These chemicals also destroy the hummus of the soil, which is the beneficial bacteria in the soil that helps the plants to draw in more nutrients more easily. It is how farming was done for thousands of years before poindexter decided he knew better than nature how to grow food, and now foods are greatly lacking in nutrients compared to 100 years ago. trace minerals that provide nutrition for humans, but the chemical fertilizers provide no more than a dozen or two. I would have to recheck how many they actually have.
organic is natural farming.
Honestly, since there is organic meat as well as plant foods, how is organic even a vegan issue? It's a health issue for sure, but not a vegan vs. meat eating one.

Organic standards also prohibit the use of genetic engineering, in case you didn't know. No GMOs allowed in organic foods. No flounder genes in tomatoes to make them stay fresher and no genetically modified soybeans to make them more chemical resistant so that the pesticide companies can sell more pesticides, like the Round Up ready variety.

4 ounces of chicken breast can have 440 mg of sodium
https://www.cookinglight.com/eating-smart/nutrition-101/sodium-in-chicken-00412000070041/

"About one-third of the fresh chicken found in supermarket meat cases has been synthetically saturated with a mix of water, salt, and other additives via needle injections and high-pressure vacuum tumbling. The process is designed to make naturally lean poultry meat juicier and more tender. A 4-ounce serving of what the industry calls "enhanced" poultry can contain as much as 440mg sodium. That's nearly one-fifth of the current 2,300mg daily sodium allotment—from a source you'd never suspect. "
 
Your holier-than-thou veganism is the reason that I have now resolved to double my meat intake. From breakfast tomorrow your inane vegan proselytizing will be responsible for the needless slaughter of innocent creatures.



But it's not too late to save them. All you have to do is cease and desist with the vegan dribble and the piggy will be allowed to live.

I have never mentioned holiness.

Your response is classic might makes right meat eating mentality.
You would do it regardless. It's like someone holding a gun to someone else's head and telling you to drop your gun or else. Anyone bad enough to threaten to kill like that can't be trusted not to pull the trigger anyway. They will kill the person regardless. That's how bad people are. I feel sad for the piggies, but you will do it regardless.
 
I know what an omnivore is. Humans are frugivores. The necessity to use tools to eat flesh indicates that it is unnatural to eat it.

Due to my inability to digest bull****, I stopped after trying to comprehend the blatant idiocy of those two comments. You're more ignorant than the gun control idiots using the tragic deaths of small children to pedistal their propaganda.
 
Thirty is old. It's not "old man" old, but it's "older." Hence, my original post.

Further proof of this, 30 is the age you wake up and start feeling like **** and find out you suddenly gained ten pounds overnight. :lol

:rotfl I'm.... not entirely sure of that.... :lol

Perhaps just the peak of PWNING PPL!!! :rock





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I have never mentioned holiness.
Your response is classic might makes right meat eating mentality.
You would do it regardless. It's like someone holding a gun to someone else's head and telling you to drop your gun or else. Anyone bad enough to threaten to kill like that can't be trusted not to pull the trigger anyway. They will kill the person regardless. That's how bad people are. I feel sad for the piggies, but you will do it regardless.

Rationalise it any way you want, but... their deaths are on you Blackthornone. It's as though with every word you type you are willing them to die. And you talk about ethics.
 
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